5'9-5'10 feet tall(national average male height almost 6 foot,female average 5'6). 93kg,I workout have big arms and chest,friends and female cousin comment that I look buff and have muscles,although I am fat,have a little bit of stomach but am working on getting to 8-10 procent like I used to and then lean bulk.
FIELD REPORT FIRST EVER APPROACH A friend of mine approached two girls in half empty club that were tall as we are in club. He got into chat with them and then I just went in. I tried to not be agressive,talked with them friendly like any human being.I felt terrified but outside I behaved as much cobfident as I could be. I made a mistake and even told in one sentence whike talking about who onows what sorry for bothering you its empty club and we are bored.
After talking a friend of mine asked them do they want us to buy them a drink. And then he fucking put me to buy them a drink. And I bought them drinks. We danced like autistic retards infront of them(I dont know how to dance but my friend is on anotber level he started making weird moves). And I felt a little bit akward. I said to one of them that I dont know how to dance that they can teach me how to dance,she told me that that her boyfriend can teach me how tp dance,after minite they wemt away from us and I have seem them in the tpilet laughing and flirting with some tall guys.

mattyanon Admin 3y ago
Ok dude.... you need to stop defining yourself as a kissless virgin. It doesn't help and it leads to an identity crisis that holds you back..... "I can't kiss a girl because then I won't be a kissless virgin". Stop doing it..... you're a guy who wants to get laid more, and that's it.
Good. Getting to 10% BF will do more for getting girls than gaining more muscle.
Glad you realised this is a mistake.
You apologised for yourself and your actions: learn not to do this.
this is lame. buying things for women turns them off and puts you in the BB category.
poor form of your friend.
Right..... don't do this. Learn the word "no" and say it without apology or explanation.
You can dance like a fucking retard, it's fine. Do it with pride and energy and it will attract women. Women value energy and IDGAF more than dance moves.
bad move..... you don't want to be the guy taking things from them
if she says "boyfriend", this is the point of zero interest. not surprising really, you guys sound like you have a lot to learn socially
Well, as first approaches go this sounds just fine.
Do 100 more and see how much you learn.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Sounds about like me when I was 24. Get your passport and leave these hoes in the dust.
SSeuSS 3y ago
You already know. If you sometime come to senses bit later, buy one and share only with 'your' girl - if she doesn't fancy, continue like you don't give a shit, change subject. If mate pressures you, say something funny, like "they have run out of "juice or whatever"". If he pressures you again he thinks he is better than you or some ego trip, despite being shit and one way you can salvage before shit erupts, is by grabbing girl and saying "let's go to the bar for a while" and then do not buy anyway.
this thing first is spotted by looking into eyes or avoiding it, rest is secondary, did you hold the gaze?
they are everywhere, you are fucked, forever
so he can be useful, but needs some theory and backbone
assess what is your style - direct vs indirect - I have always struggled with indirect and upon retrospective analysis I had my fuck most often from quite direct / rough approach. Plus talking too much like human, you sound like friend especially if you act like beta [buying drinks].
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AllBlack087 3y ago
I never bought a drink to women in my life,he made me do it and I was drunk. I learned my lesson
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
I've had success buying a girl a drink before but I mean it was in situations that were extremely selective.
I had a feeling it was already in the bag (just not 100%) and the isolation at the bar helped me out for sure. The isolation away from the group gave me so much kino it was absurd. She kinod me a ton after her group bailed and then I made out with her at the car after the place closed
Pulled her two days later straight to my house and fucked her like 4 times that night and 3 more times the next night (she pulled me the second night)
I haven't shilled for drink (while expecting anything) outside of that moment. That's a case where it was strategic rather than as a transactional exchange.
I wasn't paying for the drink I was paying for loosening her up some while isolating her, huge difference
mattyanon Admin 3y ago
Agree with this.
A drink or a coffee or whatever to just smooth out an interaction is fine. "Buying girls drinks" is terrible.... but getting a drink or something small to just smooth out any awkwardness is completely fine.
In the case of OP, he needs to learn how to have interactions with women that don't involve paying.