Track her menstrual cycle. I bet she goes to the bar "once a month" during her proliferative phase. Gotta get those alpha fucks, ya know. Then you're there for the beta bucks. Enjoy raising Chad's kids.

You set a boundary and she's adhering to it.

Why are you mad?

I don't think it's particularly unreasonable.

At the end of the day, if your LTR is going to cheat - there is nothing that you can do to prevent it from happening. The only thing you can do is properly vet your LTR to the point you feel you can trust them to behave appropriately when you aren't around.

While bars aren't exactly positive environments for the reasons you outlined, they aren't automatically bad. Drinking (whether you like it or not) makes up a big part of the social culture. Going to a bar with the girls is a perfectly normal social activity for her to do, same as sinking a few cold ones at the bar with the boys.

In your early to mid 20s you most likely don't own your own apartments. So you can't just invite you friends over to chat and enjoy some drinks. If you want to do that, you have to head to a bar.

Now, there comes a balance between setting boundaries, and letting her do her thing. Some boundaries are fine, she remains with your frame and she still has the freedom to do what she wants. Set too many boundaries and you come across as needy and controlling. She will start to resent you, her girl friends will get in her ear and she will hop right back to the CC.

The boundaries you have set seem reasonable and she seems to be following them. She doesn't stay out late, she limits the number of times she goes out and she presumably tells you where she is going and with whom.

The trick is to train her with positive reinforcement, a la Pavlov's Girlfriend.

If you start restricting her behaviour, you become the bad guy. If you train her to restrict her behaviour for you of her own free will - you're not.

How long did you vet her before upgrading her to LTR? Do you dread her? How often do you have sex? Do you see any other issues apart from her going to bars a couple of times a month? For example an attitude problem?

There are two things at play here:

a) her going to bars means she's willing to jump back on the carousel, AWALT of course but she is young and not looking to settle. After 3 years in an LTR things can get boring

b) Slutty friends encourage slutty behaviours, think of it this way if she was a mormon and had mormon girlfriends would they be going to bars or would they be going to church? Women are easily led by their peers, they are followers not leaders. Next time you LTR you need to also vet her friends, if they are a bad influence like this then I would never upgrade past FWB because of what you've just described above.

What to do about this?

Well so far she respects your boundaries, but you cannot set additional boundaries like "Never go out" and "Never speak to other men", that will make you look beta and you will immediately lose frame. Instead SHE needs to want to do those things, you can only inspire her to do it by doing the following:

1.Dread her

2.Work on your SVM and continue raising it, LIFT

3.Make new friends and start meeting women, even if you aren't fucking them you need abundance and show her you have options

4.Work on your mission, improve your life, your income, your knowledge, etc

5.Make sure you fuck her brains out like it's the last time you'll get the chance, you need to be her darkest chapter, you need to corrupt her sexually and make her submit.

Do NOT mate guard, do NOT mention any more shit about bars or her going out. You simply reward positive behaviour when she's doing what you want, and ignore her when she isn't doing what you want.

Jesus man, in 5 years, gen Z will come here and ask if cuckoldry once a month is acceptable.

So:

I. LTR at 21? From 18? You're nuts. She most probably cheated on you in 3 years and you'll never find out. Usually, you'll never find out about a woman cheating, only if she explicitly wants it.

II. At 21 she is in her primest of prime, in the party years. You LTRed her at the beginning of her party years. If you have any serious expectations about this, I'd suspect you actually have 0 options and have a scarcity mindset. Spin fucking plates, motherfucker. This LTR will not last and you'll be either 25 now or 27 later and you'll find out you've wasted your 20s with a hoe. Research and learn dread game, zoomer.

III. She can give her phone number out like she gives eyeliners everyday while at the bar. There is no difference between a bar and a club. Get the fuck out of your house/office and taste & experiment real world. She can agree to meet other guys WHENEVER the fuck she wants. And you'll never know. "Going to the bar tonight, honey, with Alicia, see ya". 1 hour later she's sucking Tyrone's cock 2 streets from the bar away, at his crib.

IV. Accepting the fact that she goes to the bars until midnight is like saying "I don't have a problem riding Tyrone's cock until 11 PM. Just make sure you're home by midnight". Like she can't cheat on you before midnight or during the day lol.

V. She goes to the bar with her friend because she wants to get validated and hit on by other guys. The rest follows. This tells you that she does not value your time, validation and sexuality and she is bored with your ass, because you've been in an LTR with her for 3 years and you both probably fucked it up anyway because you were basically children and you were blue pilled (still are).

Can't answer that without more info. Do you live with your GF? Do you have your own place?

Do you want to marry this girl and have kids with her?

If no, then carry on as you are. It doesn't matter what you, or she does. If you don't think you are going to marry her and have kids with her, then demote to plate and carry on banging other women.

There is zero point in having a 'girlfriend' who you are not going to upgrade to wife and mother of your kids. It makes no sense whatsoever. Plate or wife.

btw - does she intimate that she wants to get married and have kids? If not, plate immediately. It means that you are only a placeholder to her, while she looks around to find something better. Girls hate having 'nothing' when it comes to boyfriend material. They prefer to have something, and then monkey branch when they see something better. Feels more secure and higher status for them.

People pretty much gave their two cents, I think LTRing a girl who just hit party years was a bad move but see how it goes. You know her better than we do but I suspect that at 18 she was not vetted too thoroughly and it probably won't end well

And not vetting thoroughly doesn't have to do with your own vetting, it very well includes not knowing how she'll turn out once she becomes drinking legal etc.

You can't vet for her club slut potential at 18. A lot of these things will manifest as she gets older. Easier to evaluate a 23 yo for whether she's a club slut than an 18 year old who isn't able to really go yet. So now you're just finding out how she wants to go to them more.

A lot of things are going to pop up as she ages through party years that you wouldn't have gotten to vet for beforehand, that's what I mean.

Provided my balls are getting properly and enthusiastically drained on a frequent basis, and there are no other behaviour issues that says: "hypergamy not satisfied", I don't have an issue with that. And if there were issues with any of the aforementioned, then we'd anyways have more deep rooted problems than her going to a bar every now and then.

I also think girls particularly like going to bars to test their SMV, and to peacock and see which guys are looking their way.

they absolutely do this

In the past I've said to her she can do bars on occasion, but I won't accept her coming back home in the early hours of the morning

right.

Thoughts? Are bars generally acceptable in an LTR, given that she's back roughly by midnight? I know a lot of RP guys wouldn't allow it still.

I think you need to set a "no sharing contact details" boundary too.