Hi,
This is more or less just me knowing the answer before I ask it, but I’ve been seeing a girl that exhibits some green flags for relationship…
…but also she did fuck me on the first date with no condom and goes out partying a lot, even though she claims she has not had sex in years (this is plausible, since she was very tight down there and also is generally bad at sex (good sign for me, means she’s not a whore)).
Still sounds like bad news right?
nicknack 2y ago
im not a racist i just go to klan rallies every weekend
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DragonNuts 2y ago
Definitely wouldn't LTR. Haven't had sex in years could mean "I've given a shit ton of blow jobs but it doesn't count"
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LurkerChump 2y ago
It is truly over
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Seagram7 2y ago
She is virtue signaling to you that she is somehow chaste since she hasn't had a relationship in a while.
When she says something like this you respond with "so you are saying that you haven't had sex in years????" If she says no she is going to know that you know that she is lying and even more damaging, she thinks that will show she is low value and not attractive enough to have sex in years. She can’t answer no because she’ll think you’re thinking “What’s wrong with this chick if not a single guy has taken her out or even fucked her in four years?” (Because that’s what she would think if you told her the same thing.)
If she answers yes, she was the town bicycle during the time, full of hook ups and one night stands.
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LurkerChump 2y ago
What if she’s trad? She’s not a white whore, she’s from an asian country so maybe there’s a chance she’s not that awalt? Or am i coping?
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redhawkes 2 2y ago
...but fucks on the first date raw dog
Connect the dots my dude. The mistake you're doing is vetting for green flags. You need to lookup for red flags, cos a slut is still a slut no matter how "trad" she is.
She tells that to every guy. Actions > words.
The whole post is your hamster rationalizing NAWALT for her.
LurkerChump 2y ago
You’re right, i’m just a desperate straw-grasper. So who should I ltr? Every girl I go out with either rejects me or sleeps with me on the first date.
redhawkes 2 2y ago
You should not be looking for a LTR, you should be open to one, if she fulfills your requirements.
LurkerChump 2y ago
I’ll work on that. It’s cause i’m not really interested in slaying, I just want to love
Einsamer 2y ago
Are you sure you want TO love and not BE loved? That's a very different thing.
Also, why is that? Can you explain the reason for your desire?
Example: I like to eat pizza. Why? because it tastes good. Why? Because there's lots of fats, carbs and salt in it and my body likes that. Why? Because in ancient times, those things increased my chance of survival.
Does it increase my chance of survival nowadays? Not really.
Now your turn.
LurkerChump 2y ago
Yeah I hear you man i’ve thought about it before, just didn’t post it here. Basically, two reasons:
-I view getting validation from women as a measure of success since I used to be quite unattractive so I was starved of it in my youth.
-So why relationships and not hookups? Because I don’t want to fuck some used up meat everyone else has. I need to be special to someone if I’m gonna build a family as well. Otherwise, look at Adam22
Bozza 2 2y ago
I wouldn't put too much stock in the "if they fuck on the first date they're a whore" idea that gets parroted around.
If your SMV is high enough every girl will fuck you on the first date, because they want to capture your attention and keep you around - it's not an accurate vetting tool.
You have to look at their behavior and past as a whole.
Durek_The_Bald 2y ago
This.
Conversely, just because she doesn't fuck you on the first date, doesn't mean she doesn't fuck on the first date.
I actually wrote a post on this a while back, which kinda blew up, and caused a lot of disagreement:
https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/318131/when_vetting_for_ltr_filth_on_the_first_date_plus_or_minus_i
I still stick by what I wrote there. Taking it up the pooper on the first date beats not taking it up the pooper on the first date.
LurkerChump 2y ago
I actually agree with you a lot. If she didn’t fuck me on the first date, I’d think she views me as a beta and she fucks chads on the side while she wants me to put in effort.
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Bozza 2 2y ago
If she's a plate then it doesn't matter if she's a whore.
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LurkerChump 2y ago
It’s definitely a whore move, but it is widely accepted.
If a girl didn’t fuck me on the first date, I would assume she just viewed me as beta, no?
Then there’s always the option that they’re all whores or maybe that’s all I can attract.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
My rule with vetting a woman is, if she continually does something that is highly associated with red flags (clubbing, partying, etc) that she probably also does behaviors related to those activities
She might not necessarily be a hoe from that but what is the honest likelihood she resists the social components of frequent exposure to those places such as drinking a ton, flirting with men, listening to and watching her friends go hook up with dudes, and engaging in other party shenanigans, etc.
If she keeps partying and gets off on partying I would say the likelihood she resists party culture at parties is also slim
LurkerChump 2y ago
I wouldn’t say she gets off on partying, but definitely drinking with her buddies every day lol. But yeah, plate it is then. Everyone seems to agree she’s bad
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LurkerChump 2y ago
It seems like they all are
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yes, 100% of party girls are hoes.