Thanks to you guys, I was able to make some new friends by attending a HIIT class. We went clubbing yesterday and I decided to stop being a pussy and approach girls.
I was getting a ton of IOIs and chose a tall blonde girl as my target. Since I'm taller than her even though she was wearing heels, I thought she'd be perfect as an ice breaker and also use her to increase my value in the club. She was standing around with her friend and we made eye contact twice. I walked towards her and she quickly pretended to be busy talking to her friend. I could see her getting nervous. At this point, I acted like a pussy again and walked past her and went to take a piss.
When I came back, I hung out with my friends and I saw blondie looking my way again so I decided to walk towards her and told her "Hey, nice dress". She smiled and said thanks. Then I smiled to her friend as well to make her feel included in the convo. Then I proceeded to ask blondie "Where you from?". She was about to tell me but as soon as she opened her mouth, her friend got mad for no fucking reason and told me "Hey ok ok can you leave her alone now". Then I replied "Yea just a sec" and continued to face blondie but her friend got into a sort of rage and and screamed "Hey, go away right now". She was about to make a scene and then blondie's face turned sour as well and she gestured me to leave. So I smiled and got back to my friends.
So I'm really confused by this behavior. Blondie was clearly into me so what the fuck just happened?
Anyway, later on I saw a girl who made eye contact with me 3x and was seemingly following me around because she was always at my side when I moved. So I smiled and said "hey, you seem lost". She smiled back and went away. Never saw her again.
At this point, I was getting a ton of IOIs from girls on the dance floor, with a few of them twerking while smiling at me. I'm not a great dancer so I got too scared to approach them while they're dancing. I know I'm just being a pussy but do you guys have any tips on how to approach girls while they're busy dancing?
Later on, I noticed blondie and her friend came to stand where I was standing. Both of them were also making eye contact but I was really confused at this point and decided to break eye contact and avoid looking their way at all. I think they were also trying to cross paths me with a few times. I don't know if they're fucking retarded or some shit.
At this point it was getting late and said goodbye to my friends and left. I'm satisfied with this night because I haven't approached a girl in like 5 years but I'm pretty confused by these bitches to be honest.
Victor 2y ago
I would have asked blondies friend in a concerned and caring tone if she was having a bad day or something. Then get to know the friend, say some dumb shit to make her smile. I'd go as far as to seduce them by making them think you find them sexy as fuck.
Generally when you approach a group of girls, you should approach and get to know everyone in the group, and giving the girl you are actually interested in less attention. Then when you lower the land whales guard, you attempt to isolate the babes and escalate from that point on.
RedPilledAF 2y ago
Nice strategy, thanks. That's where I fucked up but not gonna happen again for sure.
Bagpipes 2y ago
I find nightgame to be really weird. In the case with the blonde and her friend it seems like her friend disapproved of you and the blondie was open to it initially but changed her stance because of negative preselection. Then they came back around later for attention. The thing is that some days its all attention seeking. Other days the pussy just gets thrown at you (my personal experience).
Ive learned sometimes its not YOU, its the external factors: the overall ambience of the club, the music playing, the people you are with, and most importantly - the crop of women on that given night at that given venue is drastically different each outing.
Sometimes the fish are biting, sometimes theyre not.
What if on one night 80% of women are autorejecting you because of SMV mismatches? What if on one night 85% of the women are unavailable (taken and just with their friend)?
vs.
One night 85% of the women are single, 30% of them happen to be your type and in your league. You will fare much better in this scenario.
RedPilledAF 2y ago
Interesting idea. I'll try a different venue next time and see if it's any different.
Bagpipes 2y ago
100% it will be different. Changing venue/crowd is the biggest change you could do if you are getting mixed results.
Think of it this way, our external environment and its overall ambience/vibe plays a HUGE ROLE in dating.
For example, if Im walking down Skid Row of Los Angeles past a hot girl she wont want to talk to me. The entire amvience of that city district is hell on earth known for being seedy. Shell associate everything she sees on that street with me. Even if im a 100% normal looking attractive man shell assume im poor, im on drugs, im a drug dealer, im looking for prostitutes, im shady, or shell think im in rehab or homeless outreach or a halfway house, just really bad negative things.
Take that same man and put him in a Target in Beverly Hills and suddenly the entire amvience is way more approachable. Shell see me in line at a Starbucks and see me in an entirely different light, shell wonder if i just graduated from UCLA, if im making 6 figure salary, if im socially connected to celebrities or in a film industry, etc.
Theres this one city in Los Angeles that I work in from time to time and i swear everyone in that town is miserable and mean. The girls act super stuck up too. No its not a rich part of town, or people who are too good for you. Its quite literally that theres something about the vibe of that town. Something in the air, does that make sense? If you feel it, they do too.
Sometimes some clubs or bars just dont have a good air for hooking up or approaching. Or the women perceive it as a low value venue and you are victim of her generalization/judgment of the people in it.
Bozza 2 2y ago
Time of the month also makes a difference. I find first weekend after payday are my most successful nights.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Actually that's when most women go into the proliferative phase of ovulation.
Bozza 2 2y ago
Ain't that the truth. Sadly I can't give fcks on forums posts, but this would be worthy of some.
RedPilledAF 2y ago
Yea makes sense. Girls will probably be in a better mood around payday.
Bozza 2 2y ago
Common mistake. It's partially a shit test and partially jealousy.
As you didn't mention anything about the friend, I'm guessing that this blonde chick was the hotter one of the two. So this friend is used to men constantly approaching them, focusing in on blondie, and then she just stands there like a lemon. In other words, this friend is jealous that blondie gets all of the male attention.
When the friend gets jealous and starts kicking off, blondie is going to side with her friend over some random dude - and they tell you to go kick rocks.
When you get into these situations you have to focus on the friend. That might seem a bit counter intuitive but it's the best play.
In order to get to blondie you are going to need to disarm the friend and win her over by giving her the same amount of attention (if not more) than blondie.
When she kicks off with "Hey ok ok can you leave her alone now" - you treat it as a shit test and then begin to focus your efforts onto her.
Friend is happy because she is getting male attention. Blondie, who is used to receiving male attention, starts trying to compete for your attention because you're not giving it to her.
Meh, it happens. You do get some odd cases where you don't really know what happened. I usually have at least 2 or 3 of these happen each time I go out.
Last time I went out I had 2.
First one was a HB8 eyeing me up from across the dancefloor. I approached, we danced and then kissed. She asks me what my name is, I tell her, and she walks off never to be seen again.
Second was a hot blonde who was following me round the club. I make eye contact with her, approach and immediately kiss her. After a bit of kissing she types something into her phone notes and shows me. "Come back to mine? ;)". I nod and lead her out of the club. Just before we get to the door she says she needs to go to the bathroom. She kisses me, whispers something dirty in my ear and tells me to wait there. She never came back, never saw her again.
RedPilledAF 2y ago
You got it right bro, her friend was short and ugly so I didn't want anything to do with her. I thought if I just smile at her she'd let me talk to blondie but I guess I should have started by gaming her instead. Thanks for making me realize that.
I suppose numbers are important in night clubs (wild place huh) then and I just need to keep practicing pulling.
Gilles 2y ago
This is quite basic game knowledge, even from the early PUA days, you need to be gaming the entire group of girls rather than just than one "target". In fact, getting on good terms with the whole group before engaging her at all will likely increase your success rate. The gold old saying "ignore the girl that you want".
Bagpipes 2y ago
Meh, thats not always true. Its easy for us men to rationalize it as "Ha ha she was jealous she wasnt getting attention"
This is true a lot of the time.
But sometimes her friend may just think you are nothing special, and signals that to her friend. Its actually that simple. And its not usually personal. It could just be her friend is into the nerdy intellectual type. And if you are an athlete jock she prefers the goofy comforting guy.
I see it often. The girl rejects the Chad and leaves with the objective normie 5/10 guy because hes her type
RedPilledAF 2y ago
It's weird though because the girl I approached was very receptive and only turned bitchy when her friend started acting up. They were also trying to get my attention later on.
Bitches be confusing as fuck.
Bagpipes 2y ago
The content of my comment basically says youll never know what the answer was..heres the options:
She did like you but her friend didnt approve and you suffered negative preselection (very important to have their friends approval more than their own families)
She did like you but her friend was jealous and hating and gave an impression of negative approval
They just wanted attention
With more experience with women youll be able to differentiate and identify why you were rejected usually.
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amazonri 2y ago
Bro thats literally me, Ive had success with night game but if the club has a bunch of 6-7's I deel with so much autorejection. They end up walking out with some mid-ass dude with no swag or game.
If youre too high smv the average club rat wont want to fuck with you.
Put me in a room with HB8 and theyll eye fuck me and give me IOI's. Put me in a club with 6's all around and they treat me weird and go home with a random dude who would otherwise think im the chad.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yeah those were probably attention whores. "Who's looking at me? Who's looking at me? I'm a pretty princess. Look at all the guys looking at me!!! HEY DON'T TALK TO ME REEEEE"
User4566 2y ago
wears leggings "stahp looking at my butt >:((("
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Oh man this one time... at a bar in Denver... on Halloween... this cute little blonde(probably a minor with a fake ID) comes over and starts acting like she's in heat. I grabbed her pussy through her leggings and she got that pikachu face and ran home to mommy. I had completely forgotten about it until Trump came along.