Ok, so I've been reading red pill since 2017, and gotten a lot of help.
To try to make it detailed and brief, Im late 20s m virgin, overweight, and always had terrible results with women. Although I've improved a lot when it comes to my physical, my mind seems to be getting worse. I used to jack off daily and I've been on a streak of three weeks without spanking it, I've tried quitting like the forums suggest. Its become a problem, I've never had what Im assuming is so much testosterone, and I seem to be getting desperate in the way I think about... things. Even writing this seems to be an issue, as I cant help but to think about pussy like its something im addicted to but have never actually gotten.
So I was 350lbs, came down to 270lb and still working on it. I have a crappy job but planning to go back to school this fall. I've gotten somewhat comfortable talking to women but have always had problems getting sex. I got a therapist like some people in my last post suggested, and she tells me that some women might have actually gotten frustrated with my lack of closure. Like they know I want them, but I never make the move.
Now all of this seems painfully average, but this is where it gets bad. This seems to be the only place I can speak about this, so here goes. I've gotten so frustrated with trying to win women over that I said fuck it, fuck their feelings and started planning certain things. I've been to some subreddits where people actually have a kink of it and I've been educating myself on how to "approach".
I wanted to curb it, so I tried jacking off again, but its of no use. It doesnt feel like it used to. What can I do? I've been to the gym five days this week already, but it all seems so hopeless. I see so many girls online and irl and they all feel completely out of my reach and its driving me mad.

Lone_Ranger 3 3y ago
What do you mean 'planning certain things'? Don't do anything stupid. Be explicit please.
Lone_Ranger 3 3y ago
good for you for losing some weight. Now, you need to lose some more. You know that deep down. Have a look at the ideal weight chart and make that your goal (depends on your height). The great thing about this is that you CAN do it.
You're going to the the gym 5 days a week? Great. Can you do a run as well, every day? 5km is perfect.
And you didn't mention diet. The only way people get to 350lbs is through terrible diet.
I don't know you, but if you were 20 years old and 350lb, its clear as day that you have an issue with sugar. You just can't get that big without a sugar issue. You can make the lbs fly off you by quitting sugar altogether. Its much much easier than making the weight go by working out.
Don't get me wrong, you should do both - exercise AND diet. But urgently get that sugar out of your diet.
This is the most misunderstood aspect of diet, the sugar thing. Some people just don't want to accept their sugar addiction. Tell me, would you be willing to give up all processed sugar? Like, drop soda consumption to zero? even diet soda? Cutting out sugar means no sauce (like ketchup or mayo), no junk food, no breakfast cereals, no 'healthy' granola bars?
Would you do that?
ogrilla99 3y ago
We've all been there. Maybe not 350lbs, but most of us were not naturally handsome and pulling girl effortlessly, or we would never have had to spend time learning this stuff. So yes, that sense of just desperately wanting to fuck a hot girl can feel overwhelming. Here are a few notes:
Agree with others. It's great you've lost 80lbs, but you're probably only ~halfway there. Keep doing what you're doing. Make sure you also build muscle while you're losing weight or else you'll just look skinny with no definition. You're still not in the range where hot girls are going to be interested unless you're a billionaire.
Speaking of which, stop looking at instagram. Those chicks spend their entire lives photoshopped, with 5lbs of makeup, butt implants, breast implants, collagen fillers, hair extensions, yadda yadda yadda. Your average blowup doll has less plastic than desperate instawhores. If you spend your day on instagram you're likely to think that the average girl is a 32DD with a duck face and a badonkadonk butt. They are not (not even the girls you're looking at).
If you want a girl now, you have 2 options. You're still not at the physical attractiveness level to be able to pull hot girls. But you may be able to get average or below-average girls. I don't mean to insult you, but that's where you are until you lose some more weight. Those average girls in many ways are great girls to be with. They have fewer men competing for them, they're often more willing to spend time getting to know someone, and sometimes they're just as inexperienced, and so it can be a relief for both of you.
But if you're genuinely not attracted to any of these girls and really have your heart set on a smoking hot chick, my honest advice is, get a prostitute. Not only can you get one without having to worry about rejection. But finally having sex and no longer being a virgin will take a load off your mind, allowing you to focus on the longterm, which is to keep doing what you're doing, get in better shape, learn TRP, get more confident being around people, etc. You may object to this, which is fine, but it's probably you're best bet, at this stage in your journey, to land a hot chick.
Bottomline is I think what you're experiencing is normal. As you lose fat, your testosterone goes up and your estrogen goes down. So you might actually be feeling the effects of your hormonal changes, which is not a bad thing. Either cure it temporarily with a hooker, or use that drive to get a hot woman, as motivation to keep doing what you're doing.
JamesSkepp Moderator 3y ago
You're being overly dramatic - b/c of women no less. Consider that you went without women for a long time and you're fine, save for your obessesion - you're going to be fine. Men usually peak in their 30s anyway.
Is that your assessment or are you quoting the female therapist? This is very important distinction.
If it's your assesment: why don't you ever make the move?
Why are you trying to "win them over"? You're supposed to work on yourself to become attractive not looking for women approving of you.
Get in shape if you're out of shape, but more importantly start SERIOUSLY learning/practicing game. This means you go out regurarly with the goal of flirting with women. There's no way around it. I'personally "coached" a guy who is a strongman, just big gy naturally, but also a ton of muscles on him. But he had no game so he couldn't pull.
Rule of thumb: online dating is bad choice unless you're really good looking. If you're not, you're no going to charm her with emojis.
What do you mean by that?
OPPTRP 3y ago
It happens. Use that desperation to fuck some 5/6 this will satiate your sexual needs.
Create an abundance mentality and get the 7/8s plus
mattyanon Admin 3y ago
If nofap helps with your muscle gains and weight loss then fine...... but look, realistically, just do whatever it takes to get your fat ass in shape.
This is true, but honestly at 300 lbs I don't think many women are disappointed you're not making a move on them.
What exactly are you talking about here?
Ok look, straight talking time.
Women are not interested in overweight men unless you are outstanding in other areas (social status, money, height). She turns down average looking men, why should she be interested in overweight ones?
So realistically you need to get yourself into a reasonable weight class. Being able to talk to women is great, but to get more you need to be attractive to them. To be attractive you need to be top 10% at something (looks, money, social status, charm, talking to her, escalating with her, excitement, whatever) and not terrible in all other areas.
Currently you are terrible in the weight area (unless you are 8 feet tall). This 100% counts against you. Women are much more interested in looks than men are when it comes to sex. For long term dating women are happy to ignore your looks in exchange for your money, emotional benefits and social advantages - but presuming you want to actually have sex you are going to have to continue to get your fat ass into shape.
You've lost 80 lb, awesome work. You probably need to lose 80 more. This isn't a nofap question, this is a "what do I need to do" question. And the answer is to get your ass in shape.
KaliosX 3y ago
much appreciated
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
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