I am 24 and I am interested/approaching girls that are 21-25, I cannot lower my brain to even open my mouth to a 18-19 yr old trash bag that has shit instead of a brain.
I have a lot of hobbies 'cause I make bank and live on my own since 21. Everyone is boring man. I feel like there was not a generation in history that was as boring as the retarded and lazy zoomers.
You cannot even make friends when you are high value or have a fucking social life with other people, because everyone envies you and is afraid of competition, specially other men. And people high-value people are very, very hard to find in my generation. If I'm shooting higher the age gap, stereotypes of age become the norm.
Gen Z girls are really, really sad man. Like totally depressed. And you can see this in every interaction. They are either dumb, DUMB as fuck, literally, or they are severly depressed and anti-social. Not to mention the fucking princess farts that 4's and 5's give to themselves, acting and having this mantra all around them of a fucking 9.5 Naomi Campbell model.
I usually pull 8's in the club, but with incredible high-effort. Not because I am unattractive, but they seem dead. Robots, dead people. In the club everyone is standing on their phones, few people dance, everyone is sad. And this is everywhere I go, in every club, and I live in a big ass european city.
I get more choosing signals and can eaaaaasily pull millenial chicks in their mid to late 20s and hot spinsters in their 30's than 10 Gen Z girls combined.
This is getting me depressed, because I do not want to give such a horendous effort for a shitty ass marketplace like Gen Z. I live in eastern Europe and I'm thinking going to the West, like Spain, Netherlands for fun and youthful nightlife and society.
What is the problem here? Am I crazy? Am I the only one who sees the faggotry, laziness and plain stupidity of Gen Z? Both boys and girls.
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago Stickied
I'm gonna tell you an uncomfortable truth:
Women exist within the boundaries of men's tolerance.
If, today, every man said "that's it, no more attention for fat dumb bitches" you can bet that every gym and Library would be PACKED with women. Your frustrations with women can be directly tied to how much men are willing to tolerate to fuck them.
So what can you do about it?
Nothing.
You're spitting into a hurricane. All you can do is play the game as it is. Dick em down, cast em off, and build yourself. Pray the pendulum swings back the other way and be ready. Stressing and moaning isn't giving you outcomes.
unknown39 1y ago
You can play the game and analyze it simultaneously. But you’re right to an extent: too much analysis results in paralysis.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Stickied because based
Overkill_Engine 3 1y ago
Another uncomfortable truth for the up and coming peanut gallery out there is that vetting will never be something you can take a break from while with a woman.
Been with her for 5+ years with no overt red flags? Great, have a cookie, and accept that she could still get it in her head to go to complete shit tomorrow so you still have to pay attention and have an exit plan ready to go, or you are going to get fucked over harder than necessary.
And this will never change no matter how much time has passed.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
This
Yup, always be ready to walk away and have a plan.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I'm so glad I missed the Zoomer-pocalypse. Can't use a can opener? Don't know how to use a computer file system after 8 years of computer classes? I can't say the Boomers were much better but they had a few good ones. You can tell how bad the Boomers were by looking at all the job openings now that they're retired. Like some dude literally got paid $70k/yr for 50 years to check if produce is bad. Yup, I'll take that cushy gov't job with a full pension.
Meanwhile GenX, my generation(and Rollo, Clarey, KS, etc), had to eat shit. GenX was the generation of hard times that created strong men. That's why we all became rugged individuals. That's why we hacked the Matrix and reverse-engineered women to come up with red pill and reverse the course of female supremacy.
Millenials and Gen Z is the generation of weak men that will bring hard times. It's already upon us. Joker has been waiting for a year to get concrete poured for his new house because there are no men to do it. It may never get poured. Need your car fixed? The only decent mechanic is an Xer and he's backlogged 6mos plus he charges $100/hr plus parts. I just fired my GenZ in-home caregiver because the dude always showed up 1-2hrs late for a 4hr shift.
So now you know why you have it so easy with women when you're a red pill man. It's because we're extremely rare. Remember this always: YOU'RE the prize.
amazonri 1y ago
Honestly Im 27, basically a milennial but somewhat close in age to Gen Z.
From my experience, generally Gen Z women think theyre hotter than they are. But thats generally just because they are Western women, and I think that is spreading to women of all ages in western countries.
Gen Z men are super beta though. A lot of them are trying too hard to look like IG models and theyre the type of guys who bleach their teeth and go in tanning booths and get super cookie cutter tattoos like a butterfly on their thigh to look like some IG traveler. I honestly havent met many alpha male Gen Z men.
Ok this interests me. As I said im not gen Z but a milennial but close enough in age. I have had this issue too, I suffer from high SMV. I will admit that a lot of Gen Z guys do want to hang out with me though. Like when we meet at a bar or whatever they want my number to hang out after as bros. When i meet other high smv men they treat me as an equal and we can relate on many things including lifestyle, mindset, beliefs, sense of humor.
I think your generation has is really hard though. You guys are basically guinea pigs to the social media and online dating age with social justice warrior propaganda and feminism. These are all huge scale mental warfare on the American youth. You guys are being conditioned like not many generations before you. The girls are benefitting from social media validation and feminism and online dating. The guys are basically regressing however, they dont really benefit from anything in modern social media age. Girls are becoming more powerful socially and guys are losing power.
In what ways do you feel you are suffering from high SMV?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I'm not sure why this is so downvoted but at the same time, what the fuck can you do about it?
This is the gen z market. Also, clubs are slut magnets. I can't even fuck half the girls who throw themselves at me because I think they'll give me clap if I do.
Look elsewhere if gen z's are that retarded. I can't connect with most gen z's but definitely not in a club (I'm 31)
As old school TRP reddit would say
"Enjoy the decline"
You really have to look elsewhere if you want to find better shit. I'm in the same boat of finding trash women but I'm not ready to look for something better yet
Ibanez 1y ago
It is downvoted by the broke and lazy zoomers, who still live with their parents. Gen Z men are endemically feminine and this includes envy too, because it is kind of a feminine trait to have
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Yeah, right? You have a legitimate complaint. You offer zero solution but that's why it's AskTRP, to get a solution. Here, have my upvote
Downvotes seem unecessary but maybe because humble brag?
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
Downvoted because victim puke, seasoned with a good dose of narcissistic fantasy.
"Waah waah, I have no friends, and can't connect to anyone, because I too awesome, everyone else bad".
Basically the same mentality as the fat acceptance movement. No ownership, no agency.
amazonri 1y ago
Yeah, I identify as a fairly high value man in my 20's. But im not Gen Z, im kind of at the border of that era and considered a milennial. When youre high value male, a lot of guys want to be your friend and hang out, youll get invited and shit everywhere.
Yeah when youre high value you get hated on by male strangers, like passively at the club or at the store with weird looks or snappy beta attitudes occasionally (female behavior). But in conversations if youre chill af and speak to other guys, they should wanna be your friend.
On the other hand, Gen Z girls are literally retarded. Even if youre high value, they still act insufferable. And if youre high value a lot of them will autoreject you, acting like youre not good enough for them, because of their massive egos. Meanwhile their boyfriend is literally a 5/10. But they treat Chad like shit out of spite. I notice this to be a Gen Z trait. Not sure why
But i grew up with milennials and they never acted quite this fucked up in the sexual marketplace. Like if you were out their league milennial girls would treat you with respect and respectfully not pursue you for dating. Gen Z girls wanna reject you coldly and uninvitedly. Even though they are fucked up too, just not as broken as Gen Z girls.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
It could go either way.
I don't consider myself to be low value but I deliberately hang around easy, damaged women.
I can see OPs plight and while he should pick better venues and people, I can see the reason for staying in a cycle like that
It can be addicting as fuck to be around easy hoes and that should be fixed if OP has a problem with it though, I agree
Ibanez 1y ago
Durek, you clearly haven't read what I wrote. Go back to your spinsters in their late 30's. I prefer young hoes.
You know what's the best part about young women? They keep getting younger as I keep getting older
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
I'm not the one complaining about the younger generations, or expecting to have stimulating conversations about the nature of reality with 20 year olds. Play the court you're on, and stop whining.
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mattyanon Admin 1y ago
This is cope.
If you're not popular it is not because you are too successful. People love and follow successful good people.
Well what do you expect..... this is the lowest form of adult entertainment. It is literally this: "pay someone to give me alcohol and dance in front of other people". Anyone can get in. No barrier to entry. Anyone can do it. Loud music precludes intelligent conversation.
Obviously it's going to be full of dumb fickle people.
You are not crazy but the problem isn't entirely other people. You're successful at a young age and most people aren't, regardless of generation. That makes you rare. But thinking the world is full of stupid people? Nahhhhhhhh you're either just way too arrogant and full of yourself, or you're in the wrong town.
nicknack 1y ago
What a surprise, you can way easier get old hags than the youngest and most fresh girls with the most options. They act like fucking idiot bitches because they can and they’re still the best on the market.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
Look, I'm ancient, like 60
Back in my day, the girls were better, but similar, how?
Girls in college, there were 2 types.
1) had no interest in LTR, until after school was over at least. They generally went after the hottest guy or fun guy around,etc. Kinda like girls today
2) Wanted sex in relationships, now, that can be like a few months, but still call it a relationship.
I'd say it was like 40% in option 1, 60% in option 2.
today, I'm sure it's much more option 1 and many girls go for advanced degrees = more time staying in option 1
More girls go to college today also than my way back 80's. think it was 40 to 60 women to men, today it's 60 to 40 women to men. That's a big change
Lionsmane8 1y ago
All women are vapid and stupid and prone to every mental illness ever catalogued.
Take them for what they are.
Keep your standards high, but your expectations low.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
"everyone is boring man".... and also "I usually pull 8s in the club"
It sounds like your horizons are very limited. Pulling 8s in the club. RIght. And apparently you "make bank". And you live in eastern Europe. We probably have very different versions of 'making bank'. And if your reference for high value female is a drug addicted ghetto single mum 53 year old trash slut with 4 convictions for assault that has never met her dad like NC then we have very different ideas about what constitutes a high value woman.
It sounds like you are fishing in a dirty puddle, and now you are complaining that you're bored of the dirty puddle.
By all means, come over to Western Europe. You may find a few surprises.
Ibanez 1y ago
What is this retarded reply? You have Marx on your profile pic?
Man get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. "Making bank" is relative to WHERE you LIVE in the world. Not everyone lives in the shithole that United States is. So cope harder next time.
Americans need to learn in school that there are other continents and countries better than them. Otherwise you are just in 1984 by Orwell.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Not American, and not living in the United States. And I'm really not sure what you think 1984 has got to do with any of this?
unknown39 1y ago
Your observations aren’t wrong.
Some of the older guys don’t fully comprehend that something really fucked up happened to society around the time social media and dating apps came about. I’m right on the cusp of Gen Z and saw this shift.
Gen Z girls are retarded. All they know are social media echo chambers, sexual freedom and online validation. They got broken at 16. I know girls who raved at 16-20. Fucked a guy each week. That type of shit. Their entire sense of reality was built in the online la-la land. It’s the age of appearances and validation.
Gen Z guys are mostly losers. They did not benefit from the fake shit like the girls did. They got lost. My own mentors tell me I’m a rare breed. Women in their 20’s now out-earn men in urban cities. Crazy right?
The answer is that if you’re the smartest man in the room, you’re in the wrong room. I wasted too much time trying to win over losers. It won’t happen—especially if you succeeded while they got ever more confused and lost. All they see is their own hopes and fears.
Find new circles. Socialize at your level. And the Gen Z hoes: game them, dumb it down for them but don’t become dumb yourself. It’s a tricky one since they are physically hot but the older women aren’t mentally broken by internet, social media and the rest. They grew up normal.
What a time to be alive!
User4566 1y ago
I think it's good that you're self aware of how lame Gen Z is. I gave up back when I was 16 (I'm 23 now). Yes, a lot of people our age are retarded and boring. The reason for this is we basically grew up watching a screen. I used to think I had serious mental problems because of how anxious and socially retarded I was until I realized that all my life, instead of socializing and making new friends, I was talking to the same losers I knew for years and playing video games and being on the internet. OF COURSE MY SOCIAL SKILLS WOULD SUCK MONKEY DICK.