Personally I don’t want to LTR a girl who has ever had casual sex.
People are telling me this is unrealistic. My thoughts are that I’d rather just be single then.
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Personally I don’t want to LTR a girl who has ever had casual sex.
People are telling me this is unrealistic. My thoughts are that I’d rather just be single then.
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Jakeyg 11mo ago
Eventually you will end up with a chick who you like on all level and she suits you exactly and you’ll find yourself in this predicament. Unfortunately living in the west this is something now days that we can not avoid. The only thing possible if pick the best from a bad bunch. But you’ll never truly know and even so how long do you go searching and being single until your 45?
whytehorse2021 11mo ago
This is just slut acceptance language coming from those guys. It really depends on a girl's upbringing. I'm guessing that 50% of women are hoes and 50% are housewives. Housewives don't date. They court for marriage. Dating is a new invention that came along since birth control and abortion. It's just another name for hooking up and/or serial monogamy. Very convenient for women, devastating for marriage and family building.
I 100% agree with you not wanting to wife up a hoe. You have to stop dating hoes and start courting housewives if you want to get the results you seek. I suppose you could do both. I'm a hoe and I like hoes so I dated while courting my wife :). She was the dorky girl in my friend-zone for several years before we ever got together and had sex.
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whytehorse2021 11mo ago
Well in my experience you have to seek them out and they are typically in traditional, conservative settings. There are very specific churches(patriarchy reeee) where they can be found or you can try to do it through social circles. Heck there may even be online religious dating sites. Or just go to another country and find one on every corner.
amazonri 11mo ago
Is this necessarily true though? I have been traveling in Latin America for two years and girls are known to be "easier" and plus their Latin culture is more "sex-positive"
I generally found Latin America to have both really good traditional girls and a large pool of sluts who love sex.
I picture a lot of virgins out in Asia, for whatever reason. And maybe countries like Middle East or Eastern Europe.
whytehorse2021 11mo ago
I've never done Latin America so I can't comment on that. In Asia whores go to whore places like red light districts. In Russia whores parade around as housewives and cheat on their men but they may also go to the red light districts. Asia is huge so the whole virgin thing has to be isolated down to a country. More virgins in Muslim countries, less in liberal countries.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 11mo ago
Unicorn in the sense that virtually ever girl has causal sex so yes. You're more than likely never going to find an attractive women that hasn't casually fucked a guy
Unicorn in the sense she's by default perfect, no of course not. It's extremely rare for a girl to not have casual sex at any point in her life though
Intrepid_Place53900 11mo ago
Yup, never ever was around/knew a girl who didn't at least try some casual sex. I have know many women.
Now, if you asked them, most would deny it, some would actually believe it because of their internal hamster.
that fuckboi ONS, doesn't count, he was a jerk, he didn't text me the next day.
Seagram7 11mo ago
And yes, women do hook up with strange men at the drop of a hat. It's strange to think about, but there's this sort of "hidden world" even though the people who make up that world are all around you. Nearly every woman you've ever met has engaged in spontaneous sexual liaison with a strange man she just met. But that sort of experience is as alien to most men as is the life of billionaires. And yet you're surrounded by the people who live that life.
amazonri 11mo ago
You have to think about it this way. A unicorn good girl is looking for a high value man. She will learn very quickly a TRUE high value man wont commit without sex before LTR. Imagine she has a Chad but she wont put out, he would feel a certain type of way about that situation. That shes using him for attention, low interest, a prude, lying about being a virgin, being used as a secondary back up plan. Eventually he will let her go, only a lower value man would put up with this.
Eventually she will learn she will need to at least strategically give out casual sex to the right guy. So she tries to keep her body count as low as possible in this process while relying on her judgment. Some girls hit the "jackpot" with a high value man in LTR while not adding 10 body counts in the process. Maybe theres luck too.
imtranscending 11mo ago
Hypothetically speaking, what if a HVM with experience changes his tactics by not walking when she doesn't immediately put out?
If he has enough experience can't he modify his strategy and go from there seeing if she's a unicorn?
amazonri 11mo ago
In the rare case that happens they both win. He gets a low body count good girl who was never lying or using him for attention (bad intentions in dating), and she gets a high value male.
The thing is that most high value men wont pass this test, unless they had a really good gut feeling about the girl and her "alibies" for no sex. I have seen this happen albeit rarely in high school personally (high school sweethearts who become married for life and the guy is pretty successful as he becomes an adult). So I do think its more likely to happen if theyre both really young and not really in the adult world or college.
I may be naive, but I think my parents are a case of this. Theyve been married for almost 40 years. They married very young at around 20 and started a family asap. My dad is a genuine good successful guy and my mom came from overseas, in a more "traditional" upbringing back in the 70s.
From what I know my mom seemed to be a good girl before meeting my dad. But they also have other friends like this, met young and are still married, and i noticed the same thing with them. In our newer generation i dont know many couples who got married at 19, thats almost unheard of. A lot of modern marriages are men meeting and marrying their wives when they hit the wall haha, when all the damage is done.
Bulba 11mo ago
Move abroad, become a passport bro.
There are plenty of virgins available if you pick the right countries.
imtranscending 11mo ago
Not everyone's into the asian women. If I want plyboard I'll just go to Lowes.
Bulba 11mo ago
As @amazonri has said, you can just move to South America and get girls that look exactly the same as any girl in Europe or in the U.S. but without the high notch count.
amazonri 11mo ago
You know theres other women besides asians? Go south of the Rio Grande and youll find more curves you can handle
imtranscending 11mo ago
Now we're talking.
amazonri 11mo ago
Yep not a fan of asian women. I spent some time in Southeast Asia before and I was hooking up with a really hot local girl there. But if im being honest, she was uhhh... a bit "curvier" than normal. (not fat or chubby) She was basically the most Latina looking asian girl I could find haha.
Just ironic that the only asian one that could make my dick genuinely hard basically had a latina body type and not your typical asian.
coolsocks00 1 11mo ago
There are no unicorns. Do they have better pair bonding capacity, yes.
Depends on your SMV
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Overkill_Engine 2 11mo ago
In the absence of omniscience , it is probably best to just assume so.
Every fuckable woman is a ho by default and it's her job, not yours, to figure out how to prove otherwise.
It's one of the few methods of avoiding making the stupid hubris filled mistake of thinking you have found a unicorn and are special for having done so.
Lionsmane8 11mo ago
All women are hoes.
The ugly ines even more so, esoeciallybecause of bitterness and desperation.
Better get a young and attractive hoe (with low to no n count) than the opposite.
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Intrepid_Place53900 11mo ago
any girls, mid 20's on up in USA, there's almost no chance she hasn't had casual sex.
Honestly, I'd say any girl over 21. almost no chance
Acela_nextel 11mo ago
U think they aren’t slutting it u in high school already ?
coolsocks00 1 11mo ago
Yep pretty much. Red pill 101. A man not accepting it is equivalent to a woman thinking she can pass the wall and still get with the kinda men she used to in her prime. It's just gonna make you bitter.
I've been with a couple virgins and very low body count women. It didnt make them better than more average women in any noticable capacity.
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coolsocks00 1 11mo ago
Matters because you're still chasing the blue pill dream.
How do you tell what?
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coolsocks00 1 11mo ago
Have to deduce it from their behaviour and what they say. See if it's congruent.
Essentially you wont have a good way of knowing before you get a lot of experience with a variety of women.
Anyways this focus on body count is autistic. You're gonna be simping for the first cute virgin you find, if you ever do, and then you're fucked anyway.
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TRPDuryodhana 11mo ago
Yes. It depends on your location. You will find plenty of women like that in Asian countries.
Intrepid_Place53900 11mo ago
Look, most girls can have sex any time they want. This, also with guys better looking than they could get in a relationship with.
I'm old, like near 60. Even back in my day, I'd say almost all girls, tried it.
Some girls figure out real fast, casual sex is not for them.
some girls, figure out, gee, I can't keep the hot guy, but he's hot, that was fun. So, when they are in between relationships with normal guys, they have , you know, "fun".
some girls, just keep going after guys out of their league , hoping that one of those jerks, "sigh" , stays with her.
You want to focus on the girls in the first group.
IMO, you have to assume a girl has at least tried some casual sex, because they can and it's so easily available for them. The point is, do they enjoy it or not.
Hey, you may never know, girls are VERY good at misinformation, shit, they convince themselves with their internal hamster, so trust me, in some cases they really do believe it's true.
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Intrepid_Place53900 11mo ago
not quite the correct way of looking at it.
If she's had casual sex, it was likely with guys "above" her SMV. Maybe a lot more. The more she did this, it will impact them.
think about it, say you are an SMV 5, and you somehow, have been banging 10's. Then , all of a sudden, the best you can get is a 5.
Are you gonna be happy with that?
Casual isn't necessarily ONS either. It could be FWB, situationships, whatever. It was most likely, "she" wanted more and was having fun, "he" was just having fun , just pumping until she had enough or he didn't respond to her text asking for him to come over and bend me over, pull my hair and slap my ass while you pump me.
So, if a girls been doing that with multiple guys for a few years.
Do you want to commit to her?
Do you think her heads a bit messed up from those (relationships)?
not my problem to sort out. I'd treat her like the other guys.
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Intrepid_Place53900 11mo ago
You will never know how many guys she fucked, or what kind of guys, unless she leaks it out or her gf's.
look for all you know she's had gang bangs with the football team.
The lower you are on the smv pole, the more this is an issue. If you are a solid 8, like how much better are the other guys.
If you and she are both 5's, and she's been doing 8 and above for fun, that's where it really matters.
So, I would argue, the higher up you are on the smv, the less it matters.
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