Ok, so I had a post where I mentioned I helped this friend of mine cold approach some women. Idk how to link, but that shouldn't matter too much. He knows that I've been cold approaching and meeting women on campus and how I'm going to bars and clubs more often now the semester is over. Before we ended the semester, he mentioned to me that he needed a "wingman" when he goes out and I think he sees me as the man to do that.
Problem is, this guy is a bit of a psycho. He's a serious loose cannon and gets into all kinds of fights. Idk what to do but something is rubbing me the wrong way. One part of me wouldn't mind having a buddy to talk to at bars and shit, but another feels that he may want to leach women off me.
Is this right thinking? Or should I help a friend out?
Edit: I remember and took all of your advice to never cold approach with him again, so thats said and done. I think this is different than cold approaching campus chicks, but I COULD be wrong. Thanks guys.
Problematic_Browser 1 10mo ago
No. No. No.
A good wingman relationship is something that has to form organically, you can't force it. Here are some of the things I learned from my best wingman ever, Dave.
Have Non-overlapping spheres of attraction. The women that were attracted to me didn't like Dave and vice versa. We never competed for women.
Don't rely on your wingman. There were nights he was a winner and I went home alone (and vice versa). A good wingman is always prepared to support the bro and shuffle off to the house.
This guy seems like the type that will want you to do all his legwork and then get mad if he doesn't get pussy 100% of the time.
User4566 10mo ago
Sounds just like him. Thanks man :)
Durek_The_Bald 10mo ago
Sounds like a great idea. Definitely in your best interest. Only good can come of this.
User4566 10mo ago
Yeah. I know. Should I block him? He's gonna blow up my phone otherwise.
Durek_The_Bald 10mo ago
I don't know, you're the one who knows him. If he's already got his vampire teeth that deep in you - to the point of blowing up your phone if you don't respond - then I suppose you're just going to have to tell him, you'd rather not be his wingman, 'cause he's a bit of a psycho.
User4566 10mo ago
Ok. Might as well.
orbilius 10mo ago
I say go for it. Just be willing to stand up for yourself and GTFO if you don't like the vibe. If that happens, then no matter what he says to you, just laugh him off and leave.
The reason I recommend it is that having a "psycho" buddy is a great way to open large groups of chicks. You just roll him in there like a goddamn grenade. If you watch the girl's reactions, it's easy to peel one off based on whether she's laughing with him or at him.
I had a friend that used to get high as fuck on adderall (I think - lol, maybe meth?) and we could go into a place with a big group of girls who are normally in a "defense circle" (you know what I'm talking about) and this motherfucker would just crash through because he didn't five a fuck.
When he was being loud, I could subtly pull a girl away using any number of routines. Sometimes I'd just get a number then bounce. Sometimes she's leave with me. It was a pretty good deal.
This guy was a trip too. One time he dropped a giant handful of condoms on a table and announced that he had enough to fuck everybody there. Some dude who was on a date got offended and said something like, "don't make jokes like you're going to bang my girlfriend" and psycho guy, I shit you not, says the condom was for the boyfriend, not the girlfriend. lol. He was just so fucking over the top that people would laugh with him.
If he's like the guy I know, then he absolutely 100% will do that. If a girl shows any interest in you at all, you have to get her leave.
User4566 10mo ago
No, he's a psycho as in a guy that has a short fuse and gets angry really really easily. He's trash at picking up chicks. Literally goes up to women and opens with "you're beautiful".
whytehorse2021 10mo ago
I'm never ever hanging out with losers like that again. Tell him he doesn't need a wingman and he can learn London Day Game from this: http://niplav.site/doc/game/beginners_guide_to_daygame_torero_2018.pdf
User4566 10mo ago
Okay. I'll just block him I guess.
whytehorse2021 10mo ago
Up to you but the last thing you need is to get dragged into a drunken bar brawl.
imtranscending 10mo ago
IMO I've seen some really bad advice here about blocking the guy and shit or running game with him. You've made a great case that he's unstable, and shouldn't game with him.
I know what you're after. You want a redpilled man in your circle who you can run game with. A man who'll call you a pussy if you don't approach the baddie, and who'll keep distance from the baddie and work on the overweight friend / objectors of the group.
A man who will do that because he understands abundance. That's the kind of dynamic you want. Ask yourself this, can that kind of dynamic emerge from this guy?
Having a wingman sounds great at first, but once you're solo enough you'll realize he'll just be a hinderance. He wants the same baddies, or his game is just terrible, so you won't learn from him.
Run solo, and just let him know you're just learning this shit yourself and can't be a teacher right now. Don't act abrupt in a way that would upset him. There are better ways to turn him down.
User4566 10mo ago
No. I don't want a wingman.
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mattyanon Admin 10mo ago
Steer clear, it's easy with guys like this to get yourself into fights and get hurt.
amazonri 10mo ago
Give it one time, could be neutral could be surprisingly good, could be a nightmare. Honestly, going out with another guy friend is not that big of a deal. Its something that you do with strangers, not only vetted childhood best friends. Going out with a random guy friend is not like having a male best friend. Best friends need to be vetted. Girlfriends need to be vetted. A random guy friend is generally just an accomplice to a bar.
Its a life skill. When youre young in high school you have the comfort of your close friends going out with you. In the adult world you will have a coworker like him that you need to "bond" with and get some drinks. You will travel solo one day and be in a hostel and go out with some strangers that you normally wouldnt hang out with in high school.
The only type of person you shouldnt go out with is someone thats extremely beta, such as someone with extreme social anxiety or super obese nerd or something of those likes. Theyre the ones who will give you a bad aura in a social environment. You can still have some success with a dark triad street fighter. Let him know youre not looking for fights and shit, set some boundaries. Its very unlikely for something like that to happen 100% of the time theyre out.