Not really sure on the cultural differences between us, but in the UK that would be expected behaviour.

People don't like calling. You have to stop what you're doing to speak to them, and women in particular get major anxiety over voice to voice communication. So most people won't answer and the onus is then on you to send a follow up text explaining why you called.

If it was important you'll follow up. If you don't follow up, it wasn't important and can be safely ignored. This is just a general social rule.

Even the most high interest chicks with good rapport will flake on calls 90% of the time.

I've had much more success with Whatsapp voice notes. It still has the same effect of being bold (most men are too scared to send them) and she still hears your voice.

They're also a clever way to get around female text shenanigans. If you send a text she will read the notification, but won't click on the app so it doesn't mark the message as read (even though she's read it).

If you send her a voice note, then she has to open the app to hear the message. Curiosity will get the better of her and she'll be forced to open and listen to it, marking it as read. Once it's been marked as read, she's forced to respond if she doesn't want you to think she left you on read. It's a clever power flip.

So yeah, I don't think you necessarily did anything wrong - you just tried to call her and that's a social faux pas.

You're trying to create a rule from one case study. It's bad science.

The general rule is that women LOVE fuckboi's and hate incels. So get this idea out of your head that she is put off because she thinks you're smashing too many women. That's nonsense.

There is no such thing as 'too much IDGF' attitude. It's no possible to give too little of a fuck.

She prolly didn't answer the phone because it didnt' suit her to do so. I don't answer the phone when I am talking to someone else. She may be not answering to get you more interested. (seems to have worked...you're now posting about her, she's living in your head).

If you think she is interested, then do your thing. Ask her out for a drink. Push it. Don't give up and over analyse. Be nice, be polite and be friendly. If she's not interested, she'll let you know.

I never call. Women are autists. Text or in person.

Also she may be introverted but less shy than what she gives on. I mean she's 30+, come on.

Anyways, older women like that are backburner bitches.

For introverted type of girls anyways you have to be gentle, daddy gentle. Guide her and don't tease too much.

Initially your alpha scumbag attitude is attractive to them, but when they deal eith you they freeze and can't take it.

In simple terms: tone it down.

I think you're fine especially because you had a good reason to call so you're not even mentally backflipping.

I don't game women in social circles. I do however call stranger numbers every time and I also deal with call rejections and ring to voicemail scenarios. Usually I have 1 or maybe 2 texts with a girl and leave her on read once I get her number. It's really to make sure she has my number saved because I don't give mine out. Then I call her when I want to. 50/50 she doesn't pick up the first call. Usually I will call again some time soon, like the next day I am free and want to check them again. I don't text either. Sometimes they call back in a few minutes, sometimes they text the next day that they were busy. Sometimes nothing happens and when I call again they pick up. Sometimes I get blocked and go right to voicemail on the second call. Sometimes they ignore the second call, and that's when I stop for a month or so. Sometimes they get back with a text or a return call after the second call.

A 19 year old nursing student ignored my first call. I met her and her friend a week ago and left her on read for a week because I was busy. The next day I called back and she had her room mate pick up the call. I told her room mate to let her know I called (LOL). She called me back later that afternoon and we set up a date for the next day.

A college girl with the same last name as my first ex told me she had a boyfriend but gave her number anyway. She texted enthusiastically. I was busy again and didn't text or call for a week and when I finally did, I was blocked. I probably should have jumped quicker OR it was not going to happen.

Another young street girl I met, texted, she responded, I responded really IDGAF, and then let it go for 3 days. Then I called her, voicemail. I called her again the next day, voicemail. The next day she texted me at the time I call, "You always call when I'm busy!" So I called her immediately and she came over that night.

I went on a great sports date with a FOB grad student last weekend and I called her last night. I called 2 other young college athletes I just met last night as well. The 2 girls were texting enthusiastically, the grad student was texting too but I wasn't. Neither of the 2 girls picked up, one rejected at 2 rings. The grad student didn't pick up, and she texted me this morning that she was sportsballing and couldn't answer. The other 2 I will call again, probably after the holiday weekend. I was trying to hang out with someone before I travel.

Many boomer girls on Tinder mention that they love my aggressive style of calling. Young girls tell me that it's scary for them but they respond to it. I hate it how boomer girls are trying to be the man and be like "Grr, tiger, you're really turning me on!"

: what you do, where you from, etc.

How dull

So, my questions is, what's the game for shy, introvert types? Because DGF attitude doesn't seem to work, it seems.

dude, it's just one girl. you can't extrapolate from one datapoint