Bros, I need some advice on tinder openers for generic women.
Usually I'll try and come up with something situational based on her photos or bio which has pretty good success.
But so many women (especially hot ones) just have generic photos standing in a bar, at home etc. with no bio. It's so fucking hard to come up with something that's not tryhard.
In the past I've had decent success with "Hey" -> "What you looking for?" But honestly this is boring as fuck, and a lot of women will ghost at hey (unsurprisingly).
Whats are some decent openers when theres fuck all to go off?
Durek_The_Bald 2y ago
"Do you like stuff?"
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
My man here is running in fucking GODMODE.
Lone_Ranger 2 2y ago
there is no generic opener that suits every situation. I suspect that its all about your pics, and chadly you look.
It really depends on what you are looking for.
nicknack 2y ago
The best universal opener: It’s “what’s up Stacy, enjoying the good weather?” If it’s nice outside. If it’s not, choose something else positive going on (weekend, sunny day, Friday, and if all else fails “the day”).
Honestly, you have to keep it generic as fuck to find success. These women have matched with chad many times before, and they know how chads message. It’s usually some form of “sup” at best.
Billy betas send perfect messages that really peak her interest, they even get great conversation too, that lead to nowhere but she loved the attention.
If you have a good online dating profile you’ll see this yourself. Tubby girls will message me awesome messages that touch on my unique interests that are listed on my profile. Stacy sends me “hi.” Who do you think I actually want to meet?
TRPDuryodhana 2y ago
Ah... that's a great point. She knows you're working hard for her attention. So, in her twisted mind, she's above you. Keeping in line with her hypergamy, she'll want nothing to do with you. By inference, this implies even I like a girl/want to go for her, I'll first have to act disinterested/detached towards her.
Basically, don't do tricks for her; keep the convo pleasant, and show the sexual intent covertly (or maybe overtly in some cases; ex-- milfs, sluts, etc.)
nicknack 2y ago
Exactly. Unless we are born giga chad we’ve all done it so many times. Talk to a girl we like about her interests. We all know where that gets us. I just fucked a hot 23 year old girl when I was in California 2 weeks ago. I messaged her how are you. She said good you. I said great, nice day, let’s go to the beach some time. She said that would be great. Is said send me your number. FaceTimed here right then and made plans for the next day. Picked her up, got Starbucks, drove her to the beach,, went to get tacos, and drove her to my place and fucked her for hours. We hardly talked at all the whole time, I maybe said 100 words the whole encounter, including tinder and FaceTime. She texted me the next day trying to hangout again but I was already packing to fly out.
nicknack 2y ago
I’ve been on both sides of online dating. With a normal profile, pictures etc, and also with professional photos, a video of me driving a yatch, six pack photo.
I’ve sent them messages that perfectly tailor to their personality / interests, and messages that say “hi, how’s your week going”. The latter is better. Trying to get a girl online to like you by building attraction via messaging is a waste of time. When a woman is into you she’ll make it so fucking easy to talk, call, meet and eventually fuck. And when she fucks you she fucks you better. When you build attraction on dating apps via great conversion, you get flaked on, treated badly etc, because she’s not actually physically attracted. And arguably even if she was attracted she’ll lose attraction because why would a chad waste his time tailoring messages.
Save the building attraction via mental stimulation for women you have met in real life. Online is all about how attractive you are to her, and that’s that. I’ve literally had luck saying “what’s up, want to come over for a drink?”.
Put the energy and effort you would put into making quality conversations on dating apps, put it instead into making your profile better.
Lone_Ranger 2 2y ago
Nicknack on point as usual.
Bozza 2y ago
My profile and SMV isn't bad by any means - I'm 6ft 2, ~200lbs, abs/obliques. Have no trouble with approaches or catching sl00t attention IRL. Have shitloads of likes and matches.
I just came out of a 2 year LTR and honestly I feel like an autistic sperg trying to use these apps. Last time I was using them I great results with low effort openers.
You're probably right I'm just over thinking it. I'll try some low effort "hows it going" type openers see how they fare
fockedup 1y ago
Similar boat here. First day back I was racking my mind trying to figure out openers, text escalation, all that stuff. Reminded me of when I was first trying to get laid lmao.
Then I remembered to just use low effort openers like @nicknack posted. Low effort opener -> (optional) witty/flirty response to their reply (but only if it comes naturally) -> casual invite to hang out. If she's down she's down.
The biggest reason guys don't approach this way is because they don't have an abundance mentality and/or they're scared of coming off "too creepy". It's just an invite lol.
There's definitely merit to text game, but I hate texting.
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
"Hey. Wanna steal my comfiest hoodie?"
Some lines like that work well because they carry covert sexual meaning without being blunt.
I second what nicknack is saying here. Positive outlook, direct and to the point but not too blunt. Avoid asking a lot of questions, make statements and observations instead.
nicknack 2y ago
That’s a great point about not asking questions. In reality do you really care about how she liked france? Or how long she’s been into rock climbing? No. Do you think chad mchandsome asks her anything other than for money / sex right now?
No questions if possible, just light hearted fun statements.
nicknack 2y ago
Dating apps are all just about finding a girl who is really into you and your job is to not talk your way out of it. Generic ass low effort openers, invite her out to a specific spot, and tell her she is going to really like you. The more unique convo you put in the more she is going to think “this guy can’t really be as hot shit as I think he is”, as only average dudes bother to talk about things that interest her. Think about it if chad gets 15 Stacy’s a day he doesn’t have time nor care to text them high effort.
Lone_Ranger 2 2y ago
I think it was Eddie Murphy who had this great routine about women who wanted to fuck some guy, "but then he started talking".
nicknack 2y ago
The modern day equivalent is “talking your way out of the pussy”. I’ve done it so many times that I’ve learned my lesson. Let them project whatever personality they want on you.
Lone_Ranger 2 2y ago
I've done it a good few times myself, and I always facepalm when I think about it. I remember chatting up 3 girls with 3 friends and when it came to the end of the night, we were all six of us in my hotel room, and the night was about to wind down, just about to be going our separate ways, and I overheard 'my girl' talking to her friends when they thought that we couldn't hear them. One of the other girls asked the girl I was sharking whether she was going to put out (let me fuck her) and she said "No, I'll stay for a while (in my hotel froom) and do some kissing but that's it".
So then I just made a big show of showing them all out of the hotel. My buddies then asked me - 'why did you kick her out? I though it was going well - I was pretty sure you were going to convert" so I told him what I had over heard. He just smiled and said 'ok, have it your way'.
it was weeks later that I realised ... of course she was going to put out!!!! She was just telling her friend that she wouldn't so that her friend wouldn't call her a slut later. What a retard I was !!! I totally fucking robbed myself of a shag right at the finish line. I spent all night gaming that chick, had her back in my hotel room... all green lights and then I totally fucked up!
So...
Problematic_Browser 1 2y ago
Mirroring.
It's extremely effective on people who have no substance or character. They see themselves and, like all vapid people, the only thing they remotely know is how they feel in the present moment.
Pretend to like the things they like. Imitate their communication style.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
I'd probably do some shit like Photoshop a picture of her next to a picture of me on a Caribbean beach somewhere with tropical drinks in hand with the caption "Hey, remember this?"