6yrs working here at the middle east country and i noticed all man i mean every single middle eastern man pay the bills for a woman whether it’s a ONS or 1-10 dates.
I have close friends 1 egyptian and 1 iraqi they told me as a man even they are broke they are the one who should pay cuz if a woman pay (ex.restaurant bills) it’s a insult for them.
And the chance they got laid for this woman they treat them like a princess is 90% they even always alpha widows these woman cuz they can drop them anytime they want and jump to another woman give em the same princess vibes rinse and repeat
What happen to the alpha fucks and beta bucks?
I’m no cheap but i don’t like the idea i should be the only one who’ll pay every single time. I’m re-adjusting my game like them and it’s really fucking working how? Why?
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago Stickied
Coltaine - "Islam is right about women"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzoiyZSYxM&pp=ygUjSXNsYW0gaXMgcmlnaHQgYWJvdXQgd29tZW4gY29sdGFpbmU%3D
(unveiling the betaness of Islamic culture)
JamesSkepp Moderator 1y ago
Everyone should watch the video linked, it's mindboggling how much BP slavery Muslim men go through and ALL that is on the basis of Quran/religion and not any westernization of the countries.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Because they have other things going on besides paying for shit.
And quite frankly i am muslim too.
My policy is payment AFTER sex or servicing of some sorts. No food dates.
At most coffee while getting to know each other.
If a woman starts asking for food and stuff before we've laid together from her it registers in my mind. That's a red flag.
I'm not looking to sponsor a bitch.
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Lionsmane8 1y ago
I agree with you.
Just that i don't usually do ONS. I sleep with girls i genuinely like. Pump and keep.
I do have a protector instinct, so it feels kind of good to look after a girl that's been good with me.
Of course, i try not to give in to that instinct until after she's being doing her job to my liking.
LudgerKresnik 1y ago
I think this is how arabs men think , “protector instinct” woman here especially muslim woman want to feel safe with a man they’re fucking.
But for most of them to feel safe you need to show that you have status or you can provide the basic needs and not only you are with her cuz of the sex.
Understand you 7/10 man here they want to keep a woman for a long period of time. Whether it’s fwb , girlfriend or a “fake soon to be a future wife” even this woman is a walking red flag as long they can get laid and throw a few bucks with her.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
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Lionsmane8 1y ago
Aah, you're one of those guys from the SAVE-A-HOE foundation.
I stopped donating in my late teens.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Yes, I am from the SAVE-A-HOE foundation, we appreciate your past service and respect your decision.
Please consider, if you have it in the kindness of your heart, to make a one-time donation of three texts that lead to nothing to a woman tonight, and taking a woman out to dinner with nothing in return
Just one time every now and then can prevent terminal lack of validation for a woman's evening
Lionsmane8 1y ago
My kindness of heart happens to be directly proportional to how much and how passionately the girls suck my dick.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I'm sorry to hear that. We will be removing you from our mailing list. Our foundation specifically caters to men who won't get anything in return for their time and expenditures
Lionsmane8 1y ago
You may not get my business but you'll never run out of business.
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JamesSkepp Moderator 1y ago
Once you take Arabs and such from their hard patriarchy environment, you'll find that these guys have ZERO game, ZERO frame, they lack most BASIC social skills.
Long story short the myth of Muslims being the alphas b/c of their religion somehow showing them RPs (like TRP's tenets) is just that - a myth. For last 1200 years Muslim men relied ONLY on state sanctioned domestic violence to keep women in line. That of course doesn't work b/c women don't submit to betas - she knows he is using violence b/c he is a beta that cannot make her submit to him by being attractive. Hence the divorces, cheating, betabux imprinted in the culture and finally the rapid shift of sexual market place to 95/5 ratio. This all was previously hidden from but b/c mobiles and social media cannot be controlled, the entire thing is becoming more and more visible.
Islam's patriarchy is actually state giving men external power over women, meaning it's not the individual men that are empowered and made stronger by it, on the contrary they have grown extremely entiteled while being more and more betas. This is why you have an epidemic of rape and grooming gangs in Western countries where the immigrans are allowed - some shitskin hears "no i wont go out with you" for the first time and it's such a shock for him that he is only capable of beating her for that.
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
Though I agree with this statement, I'd argue the stability of patriarchy is still better than the no holds barred sexual market place. Because no matter how alpha you are, there's always going to be some dude better than you. You also have to do other shit, so you can't waste time worrying about a cheating wife/gf or if your kid is acutally your own (a big problem in France now apparently! So much so they've banned paternity tests).
Patriachy and it's cultural norms make sure there's a cost to unbriddled hypergamous promiscuity, in a variety of ways. If these Muslim guys worked on developing Game, I believe they could perhaps have the best of both worlds.
JamesSkepp Moderator 1y ago
Patriarchy is obsolete, unfortunately. By that I mean it's a system from different era, one where men were actually needed and had to naturally be masculine to do most things in life. You can argue when that era ended, but it's going to be increasingly hard to argue that it didn't. I would put the end around the industrial revolution. In a few decades robots+AI will displace a lot of workers, men and women, that''s a "patriarchal opportunity" but also a significant obstacle. Time will tell. Either way, masculinity now is a choice and thankfully attraction isn't.
Perhaps, but it's unlikely. On one hand the hard Islamic patriarchy leads to men being entiteld and lazy, why would he develop anything if the religious rules give him all the physical control over a woman. She's supposed to do do as he says anyway or face a beating.
Watch the video from pinned comment - on the other hand the same religion has EXTREME levels of betabux and servitude built in - servitude of men.
Despite it's drawbacks (especially the modern one) - it is, but perhaps it isn't the only one that can do that.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
You have no idea what you're talking about and I have no idea what you're talking about.
Violence from these so called immigrants is to be expected when you let in hordes of uprooted, low class, horny young men with no jobs or skills and from a country that has recently just been bombed back to the stone age.
What do you expect?
Give these kids an education, a job and maybe don't house them in low tier segregated projects and maybe they won't resort to excessive agression. Or better yet, don't bomb their country so they can stay there and not bother anyone.
Violence is often the only means of expression of the marginalized.
JamesSkepp Moderator 1y ago
Do tell me about the hordes of young, poor and horny Christians, Buddhists or atheists all around the world who go around raping women once they leave their own home.
For last 10-20 years they are being given endless money, jobs, housing, food by most of European countries, the net effect of this is that instead of them going up to meet our ethical standards, they implement their own shit-tier one and demand we adhere. Shit tier b/c in some cities where the middle Eastern migrants show up, there's a literal plague of defecating in public.
Or the means of group that for the last 1200y used violence as solution to everything and they know no other way.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Sure, let's ask what the Rohingyas have to say about the Buddhists. Atheists bolcheviks were the epitome of pacifism if I recall and Christians (all sects confounded) truly lived by the teachings of Christ and could not bring themselves to kill a fly.
Also sure, let's bring in these immigrants, stuff them in low tier housing and wonder why they start turning to rap music and gang violence. You know, like every marginalized group ever.
JamesSkepp Moderator 1y ago
It's pretty obvious we're talking about current immigration, not Joseph Stalin ruling clicque of atheists who singlehandedly ran entire country.
Japanese invasion started this. The fact that Japanese were Buddhitsts doesn't matter, b/c they might have bees as well shroom worshipers. This is b/c Japanese during WW2 were an ruthless imperial power that did as it pleased. Religion had nothing to do with that. Then LOCAL Muslims retaliated against LOCAL Buddhists - not the imperial Japan but their former countrymen. These 2 events got the ball rolling.
I see you're stuck on the "its b/c they are poor" level of defense. So, FYI in Great Britain Muslim migrants are now housed in 5 star hotels including food , given free healthcare, welfare - and they still go around raping, grooming and noncing girls.
It's pretty obvious to anyone who lived or even passed through a culturally enriched city that it's ALWAYS the non-whites that cause the trouble. Majority of them are Muslim.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
The Rohingyas are actually being attacked by the military junta backed by China. Nothing Buddhist about it. It's pure corruption and profiteering.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/opinion/buddhists-violence-tolerance.html
The ny times is an ass wipe when talking about certain topics.
For others, they're surprisingly good amd entertaining.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
These fake religious people are not new. Myanmar is a rich country with gems, minerals, ores, and oil/gas. They also have cheap labor. They also border China. So China backs a bunch of thugs to get those resources and labor. The thugs come up with fake religious excuses to kick out the people on top of the resources.
The Taliban is the same thing. Afghanistan is the #1 producer of opium. So the Taliban are basically drug dealers posing as Muslims.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
You mean the CIA and the US military are the number one opium dealers in the world.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah. It was actually unwittingly leaked by the Trumpster. The "deal" he was referring to was returning control of the opium to the Taliban in exchange for US control of the Taliban. We could've destroyed the poppy farms and switched crops but noooooo! Better to have control of the black market, I guess.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
When you talk about Muslims you're talking about 1.8 billion people in over 26 countries. Egypt is it's own brand and so is Iraq. My experience is from Indonesians and Iraqi torturers. Let's just say there is spectrum of tolerance across the Muslim brands. Even so, women can still dip out and sleep with Chad while having Beta Bux pick up the tab. That being said, hypergamy isn't a straight jacket. Women can, and do, make responsible life decisions as to which man to marry.
The point is that there have always been beta men. You either give them a reason to live(such as pussy and kids) or they revolt. Religion had that problem solved for ages.
As for paying for women on dates, this is expected in Asia because men make more than women. It also applies when your boss takes you out for a business dinner. It even applies when you're a foreigner from a rich country like the US. So yeah, it's not so much a beta thing as it is a socio-economic thing.
X-ternal 1y ago
You can always find your own way and stick to it.
I ask women to feed me while I give them the drinks and entertainment. If that would be a dinner date then I would say what I want to eat and ask does she want alcohol or not.
That also encourages her to cook is she wants to save, or forget about eating in places, on top of that are picnics where she can bring fruits etc.
I might be wrong but this should accomplish: not leading with wallet/ removing provider vibes / traditionally woman provides food for family by cooking, hence I don't require eating out but play to traditional division in sexes / womn were cooking what men hunted hence I assume that food provisioning should be engrained in women's psyche even if it doesn't 100% reflects what was happening 3000y ago