I noticed in college in general it was just much easier to get with a girl. Very little investment no dates especially night/bar game. I could just walk into any bar or party and get with a chick. Although I didn't end up sleeping with most due to my failure to push things forward. But now on the outside it just seems like girls are giving me a harder time and a lot are looking for relationships. I get less IOIs, More flakes, girls are overall less interested. I walk into a bar and its relatively hard now to get a make out when I could just find a random in college. Likewise I find I have to generally talk to girls longer, before their interested, plus take them on multiple dates, depending on the girl, instead of just inviting them over. Even some girls I meet at the club are expecting dates, in college I felt it was the opposite and they almost just expected sex. What changed? How do I adapt?
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Deepthroat 2y ago
yes they are.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
welcome to the outside world bro. College is life on easy mode. Everyone is broke, everyone is horny, girls are first time away from home so they are discovering the joys of sluttiness in an world that is basically unsupervised, and they really lean into it. If you can't score in college, you can't score.
How do you adapt? I guess the trick is pretending that you are interested in an LTR. You don't need to do or say anything special, you just need to 'seem' like a guy that might be interested in an LTR. Once you are out of college, I would say that bars / nightclub is not your friend. You are early 20s? Right, so you're probably relatively broke. Chicks your age are coming out of college and in the bar / club they are going to be pounced on by guys over 30/38 who have cash.
These may be lean times. I would personally avoid bar/club, focus on yourself, career goals etc. Now might be the best time in your life to put in the hours and pull away from the pack - leave your competitors in the dust. Everyone is a competitor.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
also, forgot to add - the kind of girls you meet in a club/bar scenario after the age of 22 are generally trash anyway. So you might get some action, but she'll generally be a tramp. Whatever that chick is doing when you meet her? Yeah, thats what she'll be doing next weekend. So if you end up trying to score in bar/club, and you find a girls you like - she will be in the club/bar 3x per week. The amount of guys that try this and end up unhappy is crazy.
That's one of the reasons that day game is your friend. If I bump into a woman at an art gallery, lecture, cultural event - she is most likely doing that every weekend. Ditto if I meet one at tennis club. I don't know a single person that met a woman at a club, smashed her, and the successfully converted her into an LTR that led to a happy marriage.
The place where most people meet wives that result in successful marriages are college or work. Think about that. Throw yourself into work, you will meet better women.
User4566 2y ago
After the age of 22? They only got into bars legally (in the states) at 21??
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 2y ago
Yes. The point being made that was missed is women that have been able to get into bars for years and are clearly making a lifestyle of it as evidenced by their age and still being there are most often not good prospects for anything long term. Because the primary purpose most people have for going to bars are to get drunk and find someone to fuck.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
Correct. It doesn't matter what age they are. If you find a women in a club / bar, she is likely trash. She is there for one reason, to be a slut. The same reason you are there - to find a slut. The mistake that I see men making (I am not man shaming btw) is that they spend their late 20s and 30s going to bars / clubs to get laid. It seems logical, but if you add up the amount of time and money they spend on this? They end up just meeting sluts, and they tend to get jaded because they think that 'all women are sluts' because the only women they have met for the last 10-15 years are sluts.
The risk is that the man will feel like they need to settle down because of getting older, and they will simply choose the 'nicest' women that they have met over the last few years. Bingo - there's the problem - he married a broken slut.
In answer to user 4566 = the legal age is 21, but club owners are very keen to let underage sluts into their bars / clubs, because that brings the men, who spend the money. Many young women under the age of 21 LOVE going to the club, because they get so much validation and free drinks. You can kind of forgive young women (17-22) being stupid and retarded. But if you see a woman over 22 in the clubs/bar...that's how you know you are dealing with a dumb slut.
Bozza 2 2y ago
Bro everyone is slutting it up well into your 30s. The thing is that the competition gets much more fierce and the bar for AF becomes much higher.
You're not in your little bubble in college anymore. You're competing with guys in their late 20s to 30s who've had years to boost their SMV. They've been hitting the gym for years and are fucking jacked, they have money, drive a nice car, have their own apartment, go on fancy vacations, live interesting lives.
Some 24 year old guy with a skinny pack and a passable face, still lives with his parents and works a minimum wage job simply can't compete. You have to join the big boy leagues.
Grind out the gym, get money and boost your SMV. It all pays off in your late 20s.
Bulba 2y ago
Welcome to the real world
Location, location, location. You're not in college anymore, take advantage of that. Change your location
nicknack 2y ago
In early college years girls (18-20) would text me to go straight over to their house and fuck them the first time we hangout. As in like I meet her somewhere or online, and our first time meeting up I knock on her door and fuck her. Or I would pick her up and take her to my house and fuck her. No date no coffee no ice cream no steak dinner, no nothing. One time I even planned a nice date with a new girl and when I went to pick her up she said “do you want to skip the date and just hangout in my room?” Within 3 minutes I was fucking.
Literally girls rack up 90% of the bodies they will in their life the first 2 years of university. The real world is different.
Cynicalvx 2y ago
I’d say they’re easier, may be open to new things but chances are they’re fucking you because it’s fun and all the girls are doing it.
Women post college with the life’s they live will invest more, the more investment If of the right cause they’ll do more fucked up shit on a regular for you.
Depends on your definition on slut, whether it be easier or the type to let you cum on their face regularly
User4566 2y ago
Where did your degree get you? I feel women's natural financial hypergamy kicks in after college.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
College is the great equalizer
As touch on some by other users for a few reasons
1) everyone is a student, who at best probably has a shitty local service job. No career hypergamy for you, ladies (unless some guy is just a rich kid or worked a solid job before pursuing education or was in military and now is using their GI bill or something)
2) most colleges are more female. When there are fewer males in a populace per female, they have more mating bargaining power. After all, if there is less than one male per female (especially 2:3 at a lot of universities, that means most women have to go by the male dating strategy if they are ro pair at all.
Jenny wants to go an a date when Sally will just go to John's dorm room? Sorry Jenny, several girls want John but not every girl can have John and that aren't an equal amount of John's per Janes for them to bargain the way they want to
3) mostly liberal. Self explanatory.
4) activism/feminism. Colleges basically force feed how sexuality is good. Even the professors tell students to fuck around
5) it's a trope. Everyone knows college is a cornucopia of lays and parties. It's just not taboo and has an expectancy effect. People have a perception that that's what college is and so they are more inclined to fuck a guy than if they weren't expecting that to be the scenery
6) alcohol. Lots and lots of alcohol at college, self explanatory
7) first time independence. unlike high school where everyone is horny and young, college is like that too, but also the first time most young adults don't have to sneak around mom and dad and don't face parental guidance or judgement.the freedom is liberating and logistical issues also vanish for the first time ever for many young adults
This could really fit into two separate points but they are fairly inseparable and codependent
8) inexperience. Dovetailing off the last point, it's not to far away from when girls first have sex. Many will not have been in genuine, serious relationship yet, probably left their SO if they had one when they moved to college, haven't had too many lays yet.
They are still in experimentation mode and experience gathering
9) stress. College is stressful. Girls in high stress jobs like nurse etc are always sluts. A lot of girls are getting their degrees to go into slutty majors where they will constantly stressed as well. For some reason women who are stressed out are just more dtf. It's like they can't just do something else, they need a cawk
10) Brain isn't fully developed yet. College is using 18-22/23. Brain finishes at 25ish. Just young girls doing stupid shit without much thought
11) honestly there are probably more micro reasons but that is a pretty comprehensive take on why
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
correct Vermillion
Some things to add.
The $$ doesn't matter much for college girls because they are still living off of mom+dad. When they get out of college, oh boy, reality. Sure they still get money from mom+dad, but they aren't funding them all the way.
Then, when sally has to go to work to earn money, life changes. Sure time to party on the weekends, but it isn't like the college days. Like damn, I have to get up early Monday-Friday to work, damn.
the nurse thing, ya, it's kind of like any girls in a really challenging program. They have to study a lot, on the weekends, they want to let loose and boy do they. No time to waste, lets do it.
The rest, totally on.
redkit5 2y ago
While bar/club women are mostly searching providing features in addition to alpha behaviours, The girls at the university are just want to have fun and live their young. Less of them look out for providing stuff instead of alpha stuff. Becasuse those ages are still in party years and they want to collect alpha seeds evulationary. No need beta providing for most of them.
pfeilmacher 2y ago
If you rise above your peers, it only gets easier.