I always rebute it with some form of "I don't chase". Sometimes she will say that she doesn't understand why/that this is how it is that men chase for the first few weeks because later on they get regular sex and care or something along those lines.
What is the best way to respond to those and what should I be aware/careful of?
I see her relatively often due to mutual hobbies, we made out numerous times, went on a date, tried to get back to her house with plausible deniability but she said she's not bringing me back on first date and later called me out humorously about it, to which I responded with "i aint that easy, don't know what you were thinking about :P", and she has clearly gotten a little more comfortable/open around me, being more goofy and so on.
Any advice?
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No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Can confirm. This works. Especially since you know her well.
TRPPRT2021 2y ago
Appreciate it! How should I accomplish that? When she got dropped off by our friends I was switching to the front seat and her and her friend were talking a little, came up, friend walked off and I kissed her but I pulled back before she could, and she was smirking about it.
Admittedly we've been texting/voice noting a lot. She sent a pic of her being in a short night gown (clearly a thirst trap pic sent to me) but I didn't bite and I said some dumb shit like "I like your toothbrush" that was in the picture as well.
My hand was not leaving her thighs on our date for the most part, she kept caressing my hand,etc.
Now I might've sent a message that can be interpreted in a way that I don't have interest in her, but the intention was that it's ok for her to go after the things she wants as well, and the conversation kinda shut off a little.
In what ways do I not chase? Should I hold back on kino sometimes?
The above I copied over from my previous response but I've got some specifics to ask to you - should I be tugging her pony tail/slapping her ass even before the lay? What other things should I do? Any recommended reads on this?
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TRPPRT2021 2y ago
Appreciate it! How should I accomplish that? When she got dropped off by our friends I was switching to the front seat and her and her friend were talking a little, came up, friend walked off and I kissed her but I pulled back before she could, and she was smirking about it.
Admittedly we've been texting/voice noting a lot. She sent a pic of her being in a short night gown (clearly a thirst trap pic sent to me) but I didn't bite and I said some dumb shit like "I like your toothbrush" that was in the picture as well.
My hand was not leaving her thighs on our date for the most part, she kept caressing my hand,etc.
Now I might've sent a message that can be interpreted in a way that I don't have interest in her, but the intention was that it's ok for her to go after the things she wants as well, and the conversation kinda shut off a little.
In what ways do I not chase? Should I hold back on kino sometimes?
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TRPPRT2021 2y ago
Thanks :)
I've read that it's good to say something like "you're playing with me" when she's clearly into you at that moment, to confuse them and allow her to know she needs to do more, is this correct?
How should I escalate in public/backseat of a car with our friends in the front? The way it went recently was me just caressing her hand/arm, slight thigh brushes, her putting her head on my shoulder and I grazed her neck a little, she looked at me and my lips and I whispered not here but gave her a light kiss in the car later and made out lightly out of the car before she got back in to her house because we were dropping them off.
Now she did withdraw a little from the looks of it, but I'll be seeing her soon at another mutual event, so I can carry on there.
She was super keen on seeing me again, suggesting places to eat out, etc etc.
redhawkes 2 2y ago
Wtf even chase means? Simping? Free attention? Don't chase, replace.
You're getting sucked into her cocktease games, think carrot on a stick. Setup logistics and bang.
financehardo420 2y ago
I feel like tbh some chicks are weird ab shit and at end of day it’s up to you if you wanna put up w it.
As mentioned in rest of comments; don’t say you don’t chase; actually don’t chase. Leave her on read, leave her on delivered, make her hamster spin. Chicks are inherently insecure ab their looks; by not simping over her like most other dudes she’s gonna wanna climb ur pole to validate herself.
Women are happiest when they are the ones doing the chasing not the other way around. When u see her in person, apply the standard Rizz. Be funny, do light kino and escalate till she dripping wet n horny. She’s def interested, just instead of letting her play hard to get frame it as YOU play hard to get ya digggg
TRPPRT2021 2y ago
Appreciate it! How should I accomplish that? When she got dropped off by our friends I was switching to the front seat and her and her friend were talking a little, came up, friend walked off and I kissed her but I pulled back before she could, and she was smirking about it.
Admittedly we've been texting/voice noting a lot. She sent a pic of her being in a short night gown (clearly a thirst trap pic sent to me) but I didn't bite and I said some dumb shit like "I like your toothbrush" that was in the picture as well.
My hand was not leaving her thighs on our date for the most part, she kept caressing my hand,etc.
Now I might've sent a message that can be interpreted in a way that I don't have interest in her, but the intention was that it's ok for her to go after the things she wants as well, and the conversation kinda shut off a little.
In what ways do I not chase? Should I hold back on kino sometimes?
financehardo420 2y ago
You’re giving way too many soft mr nice guy vibes. Kiss on the cheek?! Tf man lol this isn’t the 3rd grade
Sent a hot pic of night gown… say something like “you sexy mynx cum over”.
Kino is good; doesn’t need to literally be the entire time you’re at a restaurant or some shit. Also don’t take chicks u haven’t been banging on dates.
Tbh bro 50:50 chance bag is completely fumbled. I advise radio silence for at least a week or however long it takes to get a double text.
Ways to not chase: don’t hit her up; let her hit u up.
TRPPRT2021 2y ago
I never mentioned anything about a kiss on the cheek. We made out numerous times.
Validating a hot pic, aren't you not supposed to do that?
financehardo420 2y ago
My b u said you kissed her before she could kiss you back I thought that meant cheek lol
Einsamer 2y ago
Act like it's a guy friend of yours. They don't give you attention? Then you don't give attention back, but you don't text them "I don't want to chase you" right? So don't do that with girls either. Withdraw attention. Done
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
be aware of the truth. the dynamic is that chasing fuels the female ego and provides confidence that the man is invested enough that he'll stick around and continue to do stuff for her.
the payback is a myth: men rarely get enough sex (more so in the long term), and they are continually milked for time, resources and attention throughout. the chasing is a loss-leader and it leads to further losses down the line.
"care" is fucking ridiculous: women don't care one iota for men, only what the man will do for her.
She sounds like a pain in the ass. My advice is to cut her off and find a woman who appreciates you
dongking 2y ago
Set up a date at her house next time. Watch a movie. Escalate. Bang.
If she's not "fuck yes" for the above, next her. Start gaming other women now regardless. You need more abundance.
Also I'd advice against further interactions together with other friends. It's not good. Isolate her or don't meet at all.
TRPPRT2021 2y ago
Appreciate it!
Well the other friends are involved in the mutual hobby, and we were getting a lift together.
I'll try to get something in at either hers or mine next time
dongking 2y ago
If you can set it up at your house it's ofc much better. But I remember you had some logistic issues, if that has changed - great. Get her to yours.
Since you've spenty a lot of time in public already, have some social proof with friends, i.e. she knows you're not some psycho serial killer; if she literally doesn't bite at the chance of spending 1on1 time with you in your house, it's time to move on.
Start gaming more women rn regardless.