So, I've heard about RP quite a few years ago, guess when I was about 17 (I'm 24 this year). Wasn't in shock, didn't go through anger phase or anything and didn't internalize everything although I sure did some things. Fast forward to me being 20, almost 2 years of active fucking on Tinder I move to a new city and end up in a relationship. The girl was sweet although inmature, nowdays I'm thinking we ended up together mostly because both of us were feeling lonely at the time (she's a foreigner in my country) and just kept going from there. Either way after about 2 years I started to slowly realize that this isn't the relationship that I'm going to stay in for my life since we were too different (no common interests, literally any, as well as different approach to life and future). Still, I was too much of a pussy to end it, especially since there were periods of time where despite everything, it was all going lovely. Both of us starting our careers, helping each other out - standard stuff I suppose but my lack of experience with relationships played a huge role in here.
So, about a week ago started to think about ending it, this time for serious. Went through a weekend with her with a fake smile on my face and then, one day later (aka yesterday) realized that despite her being in a pretty bad place right now it's going to suck even more for both of us if I pretend all is good for next month before doing the thing. So, went to her place and ended it right there. Left after about 5-10 mins and then spent 1h on a call.
So, my questions:
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Pain. Obviously, I still have feelings for her, we've been together for almost 4 years and it's been the first serious. Do not worry, I'm not going to change my decision and get back with her, I pride myself on going through life by logic over emotions. Still, even despite having 4 tinder meetings already scheduled (one happening in ~1h lol) I'm simply curious on a good approach to it. Keeping yourself busy is an obvious one, although my thoughts still come back to her which is, simply said, annoying. Also, so far I'm trying to keep all of these emotions contained behind a wall, talked to my friend but that's about it. Idk if that's a good approach or should I actually allow myself cry like a baby for few hours to feel better, kinda afraid it will make regret stronger instead of weaker. More experienced people - feel free to tell me how'd you deal with this.
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I know all too well that lots of people here will tell me to go 'fuck that bitch, you don't owe her anything', but despite me being able to block her etc the fact is she's in a pretty dark spot right now (all her friends here went back to their countries recently at a similiar time, stuff at her work, she just moved to a new apartement and half the things dont work there and constant issues with documents or stuff like taxes which are pretty tough for a foreigner here to deal with). So part of me wants to simply cut all contact to make it easier for myself and for her, but it'd make me feel shitty about not at least helping her with some of the documents right now. Thoughts?
- She went "4 years, you at least owe me to try a little bit more, we can work something out of it". Yes, it's a manipulation, although I did agree to meet her next weekend after taking some time off each other. My good friend who has lots of experience (lots of hookups and few longer relationships) is telling me to cancel it since not only will this make shit more painful to me but also to her. I'd be mostly meeting with her to at least give her some closure - again, I know I don't "owe" her anything, but 4 years man, I still care about her mentality, least I can do is leave her not ruined. No, I wouldn't get back to her, I at leat have that much self control,. Again, thankful for thoughts.
I'm well aware my situation is not unique in any way, it's just ego I guess that seeks validation/tips online despite reading through trp threads for years. Feel free to roast me.
KevinMiller 2y ago
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whytehorse2021 2y ago
I think she's right. You just simply had to communicate that you two need to find some common interests. I didn't hear anything about fighting, disrespect, cheating, or any red flags that would justify ending a perfectly good relationship. My wife and I couldn't be more different. She's also Asian, a foreigner, and A WOMAN. She likes to cook and knit... I like to launch rockets and play D&D. It took almost 15 years of being married before she discovered she loves fishing and now we have a common interest. Similar with camping.
TheFowo 2y ago
Well it wasn't just lack of common interests (although yes it was a big part of it), it was also attitude towards the people and the world. She kept talking about havings kids already for example while I said it multiple times I'm not willing to have kids before 28. Another thing was her being very introverted and not liking people other than very few exceptions, while I cant imagine in my future not being able to go and spend holidays with my friends chilling in some nice location, sightseeing and drinking by the evening. Overall, we wanted different lifestyles from our future. I did communicate that about 9 months ago yet it went nowhere and despite me coming up with ideas about things to try together she'd always decline for whatever reason. Not saying she had any real big red flags, I did spend with her 4 years after all.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Well, it might be better to friend-zone her until you're 28. That's what I did with my wife. Then when I was ready to get married and have kids(e.g. finished college) there she was. It kinda sucks because she fucked other dudes in the meantime but you live with the consequences of your decisions. The timing between when men are ready to have kids and when women are can be tricky.
dongking 2y ago
Your friend is right. Do not meet her. Cut her off and go no contact.
By keeping in touch, you will just make it much worse for yourself and also for her.
She's an adult and has to handle adult things by herself now. If tables were turned, she would give absolutely zero fucks. Rest assured. Just rip off the bandaid quickly.
TheFowo 2y ago
Truth be told I think she'd still care, seen that happen with her in many other situations as well as her being from a conservative asian culture and being full of those values. But that doesn't matter anymore does it haha.
Maaaaan it sucks tbh, I'd love to be able to do something more to make this better and less painful for both of us but at the same time I'm aware there's nothing I can do. Pretty annoying ngl. Gonna wait few days and let her know I'm not going to meet her and to not contact me since it's just going to make things harder for both of us.
Meh, getting emotional writing this, didn't think I'm such a pussy
dongking 2y ago
I'm sure you haven't processed everything and fully accepted it's over. It usually takes some time.
So when you block + go no contact, it's like having a receipt that it's over. And yes, it can be a bit emotional. It's normal.
It's important to also block her fully. Everywhere. It's not to be mean or rude etc. The point is that she will try to reach out and make excuses to get in touch/meet etc. When you're emotional, like a drugaddict without his drug, it's very easy to make bad decisions.
This will only make it worse for you and extend your own grieving process. After a long LTR, specially if its one of your first, the feeling is pretty similar as if a close family member had died.
Good luck man. You'll come through.
TheFowo 2y ago
Thanks man, appreciate it. I suppose I knew it all but it certainly feels... gratifying / comforting in some way to hear it from someone else I guess? Either way time to grit my teeth and simply wait for all of these negative emotions to go away
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
1- pain
It just takes time. Get on with your life, and keep meeting other girls.
2- "just friends"
It's fine to be there for her a BIT.... but it's got to be on your terms, not for too much time, and avoid falling into being her beta bitch boy while you stick around because you're attached to her.
Your terms. Short periods of time. You in control. Don't be attached.
3- "4 years, you owe me". You owe her nothing. Men put more into relationships than women, we owe nothing.
"Closure" for women means "convince myself that I am better than he is, he wants me back, I am better than him, and I am no longer attracted to him, that loser". "Closure", the reality, is really really ugly. And you don't owe it to her.
Very very limited time is the solution here.
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No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Seriously bad advice, Matty.
He should not be meeting other girls when he's vulnerable. He needs to get used to being by himself again. Rebounding into another situationship will fuck him up even worse.
He should not be "just friends" at all. He needs to cut her off completely. All it's going to do is drag out the pain, and prevent him from healing like he needs to do.
Agree with #3.
TheFowo 2y ago
Well recently I can't say my friend circle is too big so I do intend on meeting other girls, even if just for the sake of spending time with others instead of alone, although certainly not going to enter any kind of relationship. Planning to be straight that I'm looking for friends/fwb/ons. Girl I met yesterday ended up being totally not my type so friendzoned her after 1h of meeting and just ended up talking about music. Meeting a girl today for sex, gonna grab some pills since I'm actually doubting my dick would be able to get hard on its own with all of this shit still being so fresh.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
I'm speaking from experience. Already I can see how hurt you are. You need to take a timeout and get your head right. Women are amoral. They can sense vulnerability a mile away, and they will take advantage of that. It's not that it's intentional, but that it's in their nature to take the upper hand when the opportunity presents itself. They just can't help themselves. If you don't want to be alone, hang out with the bros, and keep the chicks on the back burner.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
I never said a relationship.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Neither did I, brother.
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