25M former blue pill dude.
You can easily categorize me as the ultimate betabux cat, as per red pill anyway. To cut a long story short, I feel like I am just too far behind or too late to the redpill. I know all the info. and I know all that has to be done, but I just feel so paralyzed and fearful of all I am going to have to do. It's just so unsurmountable.
Heck, the MGTOW route is looking so pleasing right now.
I do have some positives on my plate: Not married, neither planning to. Six figures business (in my local Asian currency). However, this is also offset by other grave problems in my life: no place of my own, an alcohol addicted father to take care of, and my own doormat self-sacrificing beta tendencies. Sometimes, I just feel like giving up altogether.
I am in therapy and that helps, but the MGTOW route seems so desirable that I feel like I should just stop bothering with all the "money, mucle and game" business, and just do the bare minimum.
I know this is all defeatism, yet it's so appealing because of conditions right now that I have to struggle to fight off the MGTOW tendencies every day. So, what can I actually do, in actionable steps I mean, to come out of this tunnel vision?
Cal-Dirty 2y ago
You're actually heading towards the perfect situation for chicks in their 30s. Once chicks hit the 'ready to settle down stage' they start looking for 'chumps with bucks'. They will see you as the perfect mark. Bang them all, just never take them seriously. Here in a few years, you'll be able to run rotations of chicks who don't realize you're really red pill, and will never actually give them the ring. In the meantime, if you don't want to step up your status, do the same thing to early 20s single moms, looking for a bread winner. I know it 'feels' like it isn't ideal - but you do not want an LTR with western women, anyway. As long as you have different chicks rolling through, giving you free back rubs and bjs, you're living like a king. Smile, and enjoy it. Don't give them anything. And move on as soon as they start to feel comfortable enough to start drama. The main thing - don't drag it out trying to keep getting some, with any of them. You don't want to ever trigger them into thinking 'they have the right to attack'. And NEVER tell them you love them. That's doom, friend.
Aphr00dita 2y ago
Can you get 24/7 private/live in care for him. It has to be mentally demanding for one person to be constantly on the watch
Can you improve your income with time saved and then get him professional care or get him abroad for such (does he have local drinking buddies) can you use saved time on researching better help options
TRPDuryodhana 2y ago
Well, it is what it is. It is defo. a lot to take on; this has been the scene for as long as I can remember.
24/7 care is very costly for me right now; unfortunately, I just have to snatch his work keys whenever he over drinks and keep him locked up at the home for now--he is a shopkeeper and drinks alone. This is defo. not a permanent solution. I'm working on increasing the stash, then I'll take him to a de-addiction centre and proper medical/mental centers.
i have tried my luck with local psychologists/psychiatrists, but nothing seems to work. So taking him to a dedicated facility seems the only possible solution.
Aphr00dita 2y ago
You need someone who is redpilled and had similar situation. Therapist yourself. I was only bystander in AA situations and work only on imagination.
Is it possible you will fell into the same hole, I think stats say its more probable for kids.
See his reasons to be an alco, see you dont follow them. After all you might be copying patterns.
TRPDuryodhana 2y ago
Yeah, I knew the stats, so I consciously never had anything besides a beer. Ever.
You're on point about getting in touch with similar guys, but right now, I don't even know a single redpilled guy, let alone a red-pilled dude who has had similar life experiences as mine. Monk mode, some social support, and redpill is my only go-to place for support.
Einsamer 2y ago
Nothing wrong with MGTOW. But be honest to yourself - you still want money, mucle and game. MGTOW doesn't mean slacking off, it means doing things for YOU and NOT to get women.
So then what's the difference? Personally, I'm more on the MGTOW side too. When I workout, I don't focus on looking good, I focus on being healthy. That means I spend more time on mobility training, cardio and functional exercise instead of pure bodybuilding (which is beneficial and more time effective when it comes to dating).
Or game: I still practice my game, but not so much with the intention to smash but rather to be likable and have a good time.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
It is defeatism
You're 25, all these hot 21-24 year old party girls are at your fingertips
You're just in time for the party. Lift hard, improve yourself, cut off women who waste your time and you'll catch up and exceed most men
Lionsmane8 2y ago
It seems your number one enemy is your mind.
What is it you really want?
Get clear on that first and don't lie to yourself.
redhawkes 2 2y ago
At 25, your life as a man has just begun.
Take massive action. It won't happen overnight, but you'll get there. MGTOW is sour grapes, don't fall for it.
First of all, move out. You're the company you keep.
Second, no one is gonna give you the lie you want. Go out and take what you want.
Third, don't just LARP the sidebar like 90% of the fucktards here, implement it.
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 2y ago
Hey man don’t worry you’re on the right path. You’re 25; you’ve still got 10 years till peak SMV. Stack your shekels, hit the gym, and eat healthy. Do NOT commit to dating seriously until after you’ve achieved your peak SMV otherwise you’ll be selling yourself short brotha
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
25 is not too late. 45 is not too late.
Err...... that sounds like fuck all, dude.
Get your own place.
Help your father but don't be dependent on him.
Options will make you less of a doormat.
You CAN fix this.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
25 isn't too late. I didn't swallow the pill until I was 40. Sounds like you're off to a good start.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
So you make six figures in Chines Yuan? That's like $14k.