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Summary: Close friend of over decade, one of only few guys who I truly clicked with and could discuss really abstract theories with and philosophies with, meaning one of few people irl that can mentally stimulate me and make me think.
I live a more rp lifestyle, he is very bp, super into living the traditional life aka church, marriage, do anything for wife and kids. He noticed me being depressed/down since I've come from living in my socially busy uni town into our desolate childhood suburb (urban sprawl over 30km, massive population but almost 0 venues other than steak bars). I've been telling him I'm just focusing on working on my side hustles and physique while waiting for my next semester to start but he thinks I'm down because of my lifestyle and how I'm "loose", and don't know what a proper relationship etc. Keeps trying to get me to go to church except the gatherings are on friday nights when I usually leave this shithole of a "city" to go party at various unis.
I really like the dude, he's genuine and has many interests but he's starting to get on my nerves about trying to force bp values onto me. There's no point in feeding him rp because he's dating a girl who's like 16 (we're 20) so she hasn't been living her life to the fullest in university and he's never been happier in his relationship, which I'm happy for him. Essentially I'm just saying exposing him to rp isn't viable here, I wanna just continue being chill/cool friends but this comes up almost every time now and it's getting old. I can't talk philosophy or real life shit to him anymore without constantly circling to this topic.We're also the types to challenge each other on views, nothing barred, but this is getting fucking old
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
TRP is not all about becoming some degenerate hedonist. I suggest you forego partying for one day and join your good friend in church.
It doesnt mean you agree with his views or are about to become religious, but you're giving it a try while spending time with your buddy, which is worth a lot. You give to get.
And who knows, maybe the preacher's daughter is a fine young thing secretly yearning to get railed by the bad boy newcomer from friday.
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Positive-Lifeguard80 3y ago
I have some good BP friends in church with families of up to five, while I'm living the bachelor lifestyle. Now my church friends still chase some goals, they're Al Bundy yet, but 80 % of their capacity is occupied with corporate work to feed hungry children. Their stories are about how they struggle with their side-hustles, finding time for meeting friends and there have no real hobbies. Some own a guitar, but never find time to play it. These poor guys are just plow horses.
Now without getting weighted down by a marriage, you can just do whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can waste that time just partying, but that's a choice, you can make on your own. Real freedom means you can decide you want to waste away your life with sex, drugs and rock&roll. But you can also choose to get into productive endeavors instead and you will just blaze past these plow horses, because of all your free capacity. For them it just feels like you gained super powers, while you're just not yoked to a Christian family.
The shaming of the bachelor lifestyle is of course directed at not being the plow horse for the church system. The brainwashing is about telling you what great of a deal that is. With all the naughtiness you can enjoy with only one aging woman, and getting thrown away and divorce-raped if you fail to plow. No thanks.
Seagram7 3y ago
You are both not teens in High School anymore. You are now both adults finding out you each have diverging values and goals. Sounds like you two are just naturally drifting apart. Dont hide behind the "because I have taken the Red Pill and I have seen the light" stuff. With that being said, would it really kill you to forgo ONE Friday night to go hang out with a good friend and participate in his interest even if it's church? If he is really annoying you, really trying to push his beliefs and lifestyle on you then he isnt the friend you remember and really isnt a friend. People drift apart all the time.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
I've heard from a lot of guys that the Church is full of hoes. One dude even wrote a whole post on (black) Church game. You just go in and say you're passing through, get some phone numbers, and fuck the hoes. He said he can go in on Sunday and be in a hoe's bed by Wednesday.
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Positive-Lifeguard80 3y ago
Sometimes acquaintances realize that they made worse life choices than you: Picket fences urban sprawl, 9-5ing in CorporateLand to feed hungry mouths including that of a church preacher and his clan. To deal with this cognitive dissonance, they try to force their bad choices on you. Real friends of course don't do that.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3y ago
You are young. you will learn that friends will come in and out of your life as the years go by.
Now, I"m not saying walk away from friends, especially good friends who've been around many years. But, you have to each respect boundary's
You definitely don't try to teach/explain about TRP to this guy, keep the fight club mentality with this guy for sure.
but, you could explain that you 2 are different, which is ok. You like your life and you respect his, but it's not for you.
Now, either he's offended by this, doesn't stop trying to change you, or he respects you and drops it.
Peter_Henderson 3y ago
bros before hoes