Hi gents. The topic of selecting a woman to birth your children is not much covered in trp. So, if you don't mind let's have some discussion.
I'm a bit older guy in my late 30s. I prefer women in their mid 20s, highly intelligent with a strong work ethic. The problem is that such women don't want to have kids in the next few years, they have different ambitions. I already spent quite a lot of time on a few women without getting what I wanted. Wondering how could it be addressed? Is boosting own smv might be an answer? May I just be perceived as not trustworthy? Is screening more women to find the right one might work? Am I just overcomplicating?

rppizzalover24 3y ago
Im in the same boat as you. 33 and software engineer. I like intelligence in a woman.
But let me give you one important piece of advice.
The woman you bond with must be able to relate to the child and not you.
Children require silly, affectionate and fun mothers. The intellectual woman does not bond with the child. The intellectual woman does not play or laugh with the child.
But the silly mommy phase is just a phase. Once the child grows up a bit, the mother is then able to switch to an intellectual mode.
So my 2 cents are. Its not purely about intellectualism but potential for intellectualism.
staticwater 3y ago
Interesting point. How did you came up to this idea?
rppizzalover24 3y ago
Lots of observations. I volunteer to coach soccer kids.
Some mothers (small minority and mostly from migrant backgrounds) allow their 9 year olds to periodically dominate them. They also play games on their phone with them and laugh at silly things.
The majority of moms though don't have that relationship with their kids. They do their pick ups and drop offs. They mostly have an adult to child relationship.
The kids look miserable whenever they are with the latter group.
This made me realise that young women early 20s moms are not justvbiologically suited to motherhood but also psychologically suited to bonding with the child.
The more intellectual she is...the more she despises coming down to the level of the child. Sje will most likely hand the kid an ipad instead.
hannulv 3y ago
DON'T. If you want kids, don't do it with a woman. Michael Jackson that shit. Hire a surrogate and then pay her to go away.
If you must be a father that raises children with their mother, then convert to Islam and move to a country with paternal rights.
staticwater 3y ago
Please go be fat somewhere else. Thanks.
hannulv 3y ago
Clever burn. Where do you propose I go to get fat?
Durek_The_Bald 3y ago
If being a mother isn't their prime ambition in life, then they're not fit to be mothers. Simple as that. Also, you're probably conflating "intelligent" and "having good work ethic" with "being career driven". There's a lot of both intelligence and work ethic that goes into being a good mother, someone who's actually going to be useful to both you and the kids.
With what you're looking for, avoid the women who want kids at some point, but don't want to be mothers. Or who want to get married at some point, but don't want to be wives. A.k.a. the career women. Those who think they can do both, and do a good job at both, although they might be intelligent, they certainly aren't wise nor grounded. And they're of no use to you with what you're looking for.
I think you need to recalibrate what you think of as "intelligent" or "having a good work ethic", and what those things mean within a feminine framework. Because right now, it sounds like you're basically looking for another dude.
staticwater 3y ago
Great comment, it made me think a lot.
In your opinion, what kind of motives, traits and basically competencies are worth to screen for? For some reason I feel that you already thought about it once in your life.
Lack of intelligence is a complete turn off for me. So, I screen for intelligence without my will I might say. But it ended up as an MD and PhD student as last two LTRs.
Also I believe it’s mentally deteriorating just to be at home and rise children. So I think the best situation is a part time work for mother. Is it make sense in your view?
Ti123 3y ago
Do it in another country or if you gonna do it here. Ask her about domestic abuse. Ask her if we get into a heated fight are you going to the police? Better yet see if she is a snitch in any capacity. See if she got morality in her. Get into some tough fights with her see what she does? Does she go tell her friends.
If she is throttling it up, she is probably not the one to do it with but also be careful of good girls. That’s the character side of things
Then you have to find her in her mid 20 to early 20s. Closer to and after 30 kids come out unhealthy with problems: autism, physical conditions, mental issues. if you want a child you need these things and they are non negotiable.
I would also say woman is a reflection of you, so have those qualities in you so you also so you could teach it to yours.
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whytehorse2021 3y ago
I screened thousands of women with 1 question, "Would you like to run away together, get married, and have kids?". Can you guess what modern Western women all said? Can you guess what my Indonesian Muslim wife said?
Edit: To answer your other questions, it's not you, it's them. Careerism is all the rage amongst modern women now. They're all waiting until their 30s when they have a degree and career and don't need no man to have a husband-accessory and child-accessory.
No-Stress-Cat 3y ago
The one you want is the cute one who lives with both her parents, isn't in college, and asks you if you want fries with that.
staticwater 3y ago
I can’t remember the last time once I dated a girl not a student or a graduate. Probably I’ll be bored to death by not educated person. Besides all my family members holds some degree, probably it has an influence.
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staticwater 3y ago
You made a valid points. Can I ask what is your wife or LTR or plate/plates education & occupation?
Bulba 3y ago
Stop chasing career women. Problem solved
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3y ago
Whats your goal?
Marriage and kids? or is it you really just want the kids?
Do you make enough to live well and support a family and SAHM? sounds like that's what you should be looking for.
Thing is, what you like, (high intelligence, strong work ethic) does not fit a woman who wants to be a SAHM.
If you make a good living, are a decent looking guy. I'd probably go on OLD and advertise what you are looking for.
Looking for a girl to marry, a girl who wants to raise children, be a SAHM, etc.
I think you'll find many takers on that ad, but girls who are probably in their late 20's or older more likely.
Note: this isn't what I'd want, but I'm going off of what appears to be your goal.
I think you'll attract women who "want to get married" and have a safe life. The type of guy, is not that important as long as he can support us. I can learn to love him, he may be "good enough".
See where I'm going.
Now, finding a girl you want, without advertising it, you'll have a much better chance of finding a girl who thinks you are her first choice, but that's gonna take a lot more time. It will also take some screening from you, if you want to honestly know what they want.
Kids are a lifetime commitment, the girl you have them with can make or break your life.
choose wisely