People who i've been friends with for years. Helped them grown into better people and learned them valuable stuff. Also introduced them to each other. But as soon as they could backstab me and ditch me they had no problems doing so.
Those friends introduced me to a new friend group. But the guys in there didn't like me. So they ended up ditching me for those friends. Even though these people are losers, and the people i've introduced them to are much more valuable.
Why are people like this? It makes me lose hope in humanity. I've already been fucked over by my own parents and other family members in the past so this doesn't help my current situation at all.
fuegobuttstuff 3y ago
Your problem is that you have hope in humanity. Individuals are inherently self-interested. You're lucky to have 1-2 friends that you can be close and vulnerable with. You likely won't have that. Your friends aren't friends, they are acquaintances. That's fine. You're breathing and can enjoy life having to trust everyone you know.
unplugged69 3y ago
This is why we recommend putting the effort into making worthy male friends, they are ultimately much harder to find than plates. Similar to women though, at the start of your relationship you don't want to invest in more than they are investing.
Don't help them more than they are helping you, that will make you seem lower value and they will appreciate it less. Instead be a loyal and reliable friend, invest at least 2/3rds of what they are investing and you can have a long term friendship with them that will develop over time.
Finally, a common misconception needs to be addressed. People don't like you because you do things for them, so never do something nice if that's what you want out of the relationship. Instead, people start to like you when they do stuff for you, remember that.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
It's called rational self-interest. You can take it beyond economics and apply it to anything that would motivate humans such as sex, safety needs, in groups and out groups. The 48 laws of power show you how to deal with this and even take advantage of it. Until we reorganize our society to reward people for being decent human beings, this will continue.
TheRedPGuy 3y ago
People also fucked me over in the past without anything to gain because they got jealous at me. I don't see how that is out of self interest.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
You are an intrasexual competitor. Anything that fucks up your chances with the ladies improves their chances(or so they think in a blue pill beta kind of way).
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TheRedPGuy 3y ago
Yeah it's a sad things to realize. Worst part is some of these people openly admitted to me in private how depressed they are. And I supported them and gave them valuable tips how tho deal with their depression. Talked to them for hours so they didn't end up harming themselves. And they just fuck you over like that.
I've also experienced people who acted normal to me, only to gang up on me and try to bully me once they found out a certain girl was interested in me. Because they got jealous. Been excluded from an entire friendgroup because some girls got interested in me...
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