So I have approached some women, but it’s usually at a bar/club. I hate going to bars and clubs alone but have no friends, or at least no friends who I hangout with much. I forced myself to go to bars and clubs to try to better my life but it didn’t work.
I’ve wanted to do day game more but have only approached a few women during daygame. The biggest reason is that there aren’t many women around me and whenever I see one it’s always in an awkward scenario, such as with other people around.
I’m at the point where something in my life has to change. I’m wondering if it’s okay to approach women in any scenario. For example, yesterday I was at the mall and a girl was standing in the middle of the mall and I wanted to approach her but there were people behind me. I did not approach her.
I wonder if I should just truly not give a fuck. Obviously I’ll be faking it because clearly I do give a fuck, but I mean that I wonder if I should just do shit that might be creepy and weird for the sake of making my life better. There aren’t many women around me but there’s enough that if I were to be fine making a fool out of myself in front of others, then I could probably have good success. I’d be in the position where I’d have to let myself get rejected within earshot of other people.
What do you all think?
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
You cant limit yourself to only approaching in perfect circumstances. Cold approach is a numbers game, so the more approaches you do, the more success you will generally have. VOLUME. Simple.
ANY scenario? That would be awesome, but no, just most of the time.
This is a near perfect opportunity to approach!
But if you were in line to pay, and would be holding up the line by chatting up the cashier or something, that would require bigger balls and some finesse.
https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/approach-anxiety-faint-heart-never-fucked-fair.40651
Try to avoid being weird, but it's gonna happen. Sometimes you might look back at the trainwreck of an approach you did, and just go "yikes, that was awful, what was i thinking". After a while you'll understand that even those approaches are learning experiences and the only thing to do is laugh it off and carry on.
After your first handful of cold approaches, start training yourself to not think at all before you approach. Just do. Make a 5-second rule and adhere to it. The more you think, the more likely you're going to find reasons why the approach might fail (oh no..!).
A helpful thought concerning rejection when starting out is this: When you get rejected, the girl is not rejecting you as a person or as a whole. She doesn't know you, so how could she. Rather, she is rejecting that approach. Dont let a girl's rejection bring you down.
So two takeaways:
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Karenzza 2y ago
Thats given. If cant do it yet then don't do it in your neighborhood. From your threads I get you're struggling in the area and m9ve seems best option.
Second best is to use your environment. Climbing, hiking, kayaking, boarding, ghost tour, snake hunting, clay pottery, escape desert, treasurevhunt, something fairly cheap, adding people to FB, putting poster up and.when you have few - doing event. If you're in bum fuck town there is a chance.people are bored as fuck and will.do anything.
Dog might help as part of plan. Talk - add to FB - bounce. Casual.
Let them come to u.
Have a plan for amog'ers
User4566 2y ago
Where do you live?
I don't approach if there are other people around because the last time I did that with a girl that was giving me ioi's before, she rejected me. I think it could have had to do with 3 people in our vicinity at the gym. It's like there may have been preassure on her, like those cringey public prom proposes. I didn't care at the time. Still don't regret it.
Bars and clubs aren't my cup of tea either. I'm in school, so I rarely have time to drink and party. The reason why you're nervous and think what you're doing is creepy is a NATURAL FEELING because you LACK EXPERIENCE DOING IT. Hell, I cold approach sometimes just to get comfortable with it again. Likely, I'll do it again tonight at school. It's like the first time a band goes to play their first live show: they're nervous as shit. Not soo much anymore on show #7.
Cold approaching is awkward at times and it will NEVER be completely in your control. For example, if you read my post a few days ago, the chick I cold approached made my approach awkward even though all I did was go up, say "hi" with a smile, and talk to her while I waited for class. SoOoO creepy right?
Take it from a guy who had crippling anxiety over this: cold approach girls that you don't care reject you (like a 5) and view you cold approaches as not just a chance of getting a girl's number, but building your comfort in cold approaching. You'll realize that going up and talking to girls isn't bad. Maybe going up to them and asking them out right off the bat is retarded, because I feel you at least need to know a LITTLE about her before you ask her out. That way, she'll think you find her interesting and not just attractive.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yeah you have to use indirect speech so she can shoot you down without shooting you down. "Would you like to come up to my room and see my etchings?" is an old indirect speech example that would be used at a party to ask a woman if she wants to go have sex. Nowadays people say "You wanna netflix and chill?".
Here's a good example of asking out a waitress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LkGAGUdFhk