I find his example of having shit together on.some level at least (some say he is still blue pilled ) and then going into depression very worth while.
Whats your take on it.
Please do not read other comments before to make it as genuine as possible.
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Terra 1y ago
I was listen8ng to his old interviews and the excellent way he handled it and am9unt of wisdom and congruence.
Then I.was reading 12 rules for life.
Then I listen about his daughter on Rollo.channel.
Then I found he had solid depression at some point and some health problems.ensued.
It is not one material I refer to. Its general knowledge that might be lacking.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
Never read any of his books, just listened to a bunch of interviews and podcast appearances. Child development and child psychology is where I take him the most seriously, since that's his primary field of expertise (to my knowledge). His appearance on the Adam Carolla Show is fantastic and pretty hilarious, and mostly about raising children right.
I also like people who can make a good case for religion for people who aren't dumb as shit. Not that I'm religious, but it's just something else than the usual materialist trope you get brainwashed with in higher education. Rupert Sheldrake, Bernardo Kastrup and Jordan Peterson are all good for a different, non-stupid, non-dogmatic perspective on all that.
His self-help stuff I find to be constructive, and he's definitely got some good mental models for increasing discipline and motivation and stuff like that. He's obviously helped a lot of guys out, and seems very much like an unabashedly "pro male" kind of character - which takes some balls from a professional scientists/educator.
His stuff on male-female dynamics is too much on the beta need side of the equation, and I think he's got a huge blind spot for the alpha seed side, and how much it actually matters (also in the long run). I find that to be typical of conservatives though, and he's no exception in that regard. Wouldn't say he's "blue pill" though, cause he's not about magic, fairy dust and unconditional love. He's not silly and emotional like that, but he does like to build better betas it seems.
But yeah, I like Jordan Peterson. He's doing a lot of good work, been a positive influence on me and many other men. I don't need to agree on everything he says to take some of it with me, to respect him as a man and an intellectual, and to be thankful for his overall positive contribution to the world.
Som useful advice of his off the top of my head:
Compare yourself to what you were yesterday, not to everybody else.
Don't let your kids do things that make you dislike them.
Don't apologize just because somebody else expects you to, unless you yourself think that you should (the 'apoligizing to a mob' bit is something I see play out almost every day in the media - always backfires).
Terra 1y ago
I stopped for.a while on
To digeSt it, what do you mean, do you remember from top of your head main points leading t9 that?
Terra 1y ago
I remember reading it first time in his book and realising that I have applied that years ago to women > men, using exact same phrase.
Do you think there was anything in particular that made him d3press3d? For obvious reasons I don't relate to official sources.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
I don't know, but I suppose it takes its toll to go in to battle all the time, always being the minority view amongst your peers.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I liked his free youtube lectures on personality. It's worth the 24 hrs or so of watching. I believe he fell into depression after eating something toxic. My guess is it crashed his testosterone. He claims to have fixed it by eating meat which is basically lots of cholesterol which is what is used to make testosterone. I think he's still teetering on the brink of hypogonadism based on how much he cries in interviews.