I demoted a girl down to plate status (due to red flags, disrespect etc...) withdrew attention, say she has stuff back at my house she should take back... A few days later she said to me:
"I feel there's something you're not telling me. I thought our communication were better. Can you tell me what I did wrong"
Should I:
- Explain what was wrong and her behavior showed me she's not what I'm looking for but we can keep seeing each other
- ignore and pretend nothing happened?
What do you think is the best course of action and why? Thanks brothers

mattyanon Admin 3y ago
Ok, what do you want out of this?
The red flags aren't going to change, so what's the point of explaining them?
You don't need to justify your actions.
Basically you explain the bit she can change, eg "You need to speak more respectfully". She'll give you bullshit which you IGNORE.
Don't say "you have tattoos therefore I will not date you long term", that isn't going to get you laid.,
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
It is probably unsustainable to leave her wondering what happened. There is some utility in leaving her hungry for validation but at the same time that's probably a sure-fire way to break a plate sooner, rather than later.
You don't technically owe her an answer, but also, do you want her to maintain the same behaviors that led to a demotion?
Expect pushback and arguing if you tell her. There are tradeoffs in doing so but you'll have to maintain frame if you do
Hanscheezburger 3y ago
This sounds reasonable. And I guess since she's already down to plate status, there's no harm in telling her what I think (If it breaks, it breaks). Thanks for the input my man
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
No problem man
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Absolutely. It's called holding them accountable. Something very few guys do which is why we have women behaving so badly in the first place. Just be like "yeah I like fucking you but I can't take you serious as a potential wife and mother of my children because you're a hoe(or whatever reasons you have)".
financehardo420 3y ago
1) bitch mgmt guide says never ever tell them why they got demoted. she’s obv observing there’s a shift - let her mull it over and try to think why.
2) definitely ignore and pretend nothing happened if she’s been demoted to plate (im assuming was fwb before?). reward her w/ attention/validation/dick when she does what you ask; punish her by taking away attention/validation/dick when she misbehaves. Train your whores Pavlov style king
Terra 3y ago
I always thought that possibility of talking impairs thinking (moreso 4 women). At some point in my live I have learnt to speak less, purp9sefully. I did some great progress, never came out as good as I want tho. But lesson learned.
What I say Below is experimental. If she's serious about listening and you're bothered to do it, she'll try to push back. So what can be done? Put a condition on effort. My proposal :
Optional: you will remain gagged for x more time after hands get released and you will do for me x for my time and effort to be your daddy, not-blackout-hood to REMove more senses/feedback. Full restraint to prevent any kind of communication feedback.
She'll likely get horny from that. Unable to speak might get to understand more, if she's capable. Hands free for some action.
I generally agree that explaining is investing and work for hamster and m9st of the time not WORth it. Hence I assume guys that focus strictly on themselves will advise to manipulate as explaining has chance to be, little to none ROI on average and increased chance to break plate by regretting something as by explaining you go into.a zone of.judging her. Some mental gymnastics can be used to lessen impact of judging: giving example of 3rd party etc
Lack of so little/none ROI, IMO comes from lack of learnt accountability and not being able to.deal with it in any capacity.
But if you didnt recognize any patterns in her that she ignores all be8ng said to her you can try. If she ignores then well...
ChadBigly 3y ago
Don't explain, whatever you do. Maybe just say "nothing babe, I'm busy" but keep her exactly where she is.