Just curious, because a drug dealer is "alpha fucks" but most likely a loser in real life who has no real life aspirations or respect from general society outside of their neighborhood.
But in their neighborhood they may be popular and have connections, partying, drugs, etc.
If your girl left you for a drug dealer or thug, do you think she considers it an upgrade because its an "alpha" spectrum male or does she know that she fucked up and is getting commitment from someone who gets no respect out of the underworld of society?
For example, if you look at the baddest girls. They dont go for drug dealer types. They go for the athlete, ceo, baller types, who are clean cut buff and charismatic. They usually dress nice and these men have dated some classy women in the past.
But your usual drug dealer are typically skinny, grimy looking, tacky jewelry, etc. I have noticed all of the drug dealer types only get those ghetto ratchet girls that are sometimes pretty, but they cannot get the classy type usually.
Bulba 1y ago
Girls date drug dealers because they want free drugs, it’s simple as that. I think you just dodged a bullet, be happy and move on.
bymxco 1y ago
Yeah she doesnt do drugs though, i dated her for 2 years. She hardly liked smoking weed. She lives close to a bad neighborhood frequented by drug dealers.
Bulba 1y ago
If she didn’t do drugs before, you can be sure she’s doing it now.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
If a girl you thought was LTR material is willing to suck down a drug dealer'd c0ck, you lucked out. Count your blessings
bymxco 1y ago
Yeah but shes young 21, dont those girls always go thru that phase? I had lots of women friends growing up in college and high school, and even the most preppiest white girls would get tingles for a drug dealer at a house party. But i thought that was high school popularity shit.
My issue isnt X fucked a drug dealer, but dating one is so much different than a ONS. Theres some girls out there who may have tried a black guy but probably wont literally date one, same with thugs.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Are you sure they are dating or she just publicly this dude's plate?
bymxco 1y ago
Idk, I dont know their title but they seem to hang out a few times per week and probably know each others friends. Def not a ONS.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Could just be a hard rebound. Obviously she has absolutely fucking terrible judgement in the new men she has in her life. Not an upgrade, just possibly a hyper masculine sexual outlet or a friend
Same as if you fucked a really submissive feminine hoe. You probably wouldn't LTR her but she'd be a nice fuck right?
Let's say they are fucking, which we don't know, it's definitely not an upgrade and won't last
At best it's tingles. You should let go of her, she's got terrible fucking taste
bymxco 1y ago
Yes but do women know its not an upgrade? Us guys can logically call him a loser, but women view things so much differntly, the tingles can blind their judgment.
Any women can get sex, but not exclusiveity. Every woman can fuck an alpha. I understand this.
I took her on trips and traveled to 2 different countries with her, I showed her new experiences. Shes literally never left her country before. This rebound is taking her to a fucking shithole neighborhood with literal zombies walking around because all the homeless know where the drugs are. Shes literally surrounded by some super negative bs over some tingles lmao.. And buying her cheap ass beers in ghetto dive bars. Neighborhood with fucking heaps of trash bags in the street and people drinking beers on their porches and smoking weed and crack openly. Its sickening
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Gurren843 1y ago
You really don’t understand women then if you really think all that matters. No amount of money or gifts will make a woman loyal to you or make her really care for you.
Women will always choose the guy who gives her the tingles, whether that be through being a bad boy or someone (usually good-looking) who makes her feel secure both physically and emotionally.
The bad boy is your typical street gangsters, guys with a shit ton of tattoos, fuck boys, etc. Mostly women who have daddy issues go for these kind of men because they’re seeking validation from the men who are the complete opposite of their father. They enjoy the thrill of it all.
The other type of man they like, usually most women with a great relationship with their father go for these type of men first, is a man whose in tune with both his masculine and feminine side and is able to make her feel secure both physically and emotionally. Women want a man who is able to understand and cater to her emotional needs by being in-touch with his feminine side, but she also needs a man who is in-touch with his masculine side and is assertive, strong both physically and mentally, and reliable like a man should.
This is how you make a woman stay with you, but most younger women are tricky because they’re brainwashed by modern society to sleep with as many men as she can and more than half of them grew up with single mothers or have terrible relationships with their fathers because most of their fathers are beta cucks themselves, too aggressive in their parenting, or straight up weren’t there.
The hypergamous nature of woman knows no bounds OP, remember that.
bymxco 1y ago
Being in a LTR doesnt make you a beta bux. i used to sell drugs in college too. She knows im an ex-criminal who got his shit together. Not trying to brag but im not a square. She got tingles in our relationship for sure but i dumped her, neglected her, ignored her.
You can hurt a girl to the point the tingles dont matter anymore. Im just still disappointed she stooped this low. These guys are grimy as fuck. Not your typical drug dealer.
If she dated an average dude with a nice job like an average girl would i would probably feel differently.
Gurren843 1y ago
Sorry, I wasn’t implying anything about you nor do I know you, so I wasn’t assuming you were a square or anything. I’m in an LTR myself, so I’m not saying you’re a beta for being in a LTR at all. You sound like a well-put together guy who just happened to get into a relationship with a girl who has severe daddy issues, it was just bad luck on your part Just telling you that money and valuables only grabs a woman’s attention, but it certainly doesn’t make her loyal.
There’s definitely a lot of truth to neglecting a woman to the point she emotionally checks out completely. That’s what happened to your relationship from the sound of it, sounds like she ended up resenting you. I know once women check out, there’s no coming back… Women only love conditionally while men love unconditionally.
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whytehorse2021 1y ago
Drug dealers are exciting. They basically go to parties to sell drugs and get treated like royalty there. Perfect match for party girls. After I quit dealing drugs, I learned to avoid party girls. Nothing but trouble.
Seagram7 1y ago
Here we go again. A guy that caught serious oneitis and thinks this girl is his unicorn and is now experiencing cognitive dissonance because he thinks he is the superior male to a lowly criminal drug dealer. What you are doing is a common male fallacy I call "comparing resumes." You size yourself to him and compare yourself to him and come to the conclusion that you are the winner and he is the loser, hence she should be with you and not him. The reality is that she is fucking him and not you so here you are wringing your hands with cognitive dissonance trying to figure out why she is fucking a guy YOU think is a loser and not a winner like you.
Here is the brutal reality: who gives a fuck what you think. It's what she thinks that matters since she is the Great Decider on who gets to fuck her. It's her perceptions that are her reality, NOT your perceptions. You see a low level weed dealer not on the road to upper middle class trappings like McMansions , 401Ks, and membership to a Country Club. SHE sees a rugged bad boy and is outside the law making his own rules and not playing the game society expects from us. TO HER: he sounds exciting, you dont. YOU see a loser, SHE sees a bad ass dude.
I am sure that you have a degree from a prestigious university, got a nice place, nice car, fat 401K, high paying job...oh wait, everything I listed sounds great...for a beta bux provider. Everything I listed sounds great for a girl that is done with the cock carousel and need the security of someone like you. Let's be honest here, everything I listed does not sound exciting to a young girl. A drug dealer does sound exciting to a young girl. Her vag tingles are what's currently driving her sexual selection. You are not giving her vag tingles, he is. Remember this RP axiom that is one of the core principals to Red pill philosophy: "You can be many things, but dont be boring."
bymxco 1y ago
You are one of those redpill scientists with no real life practical experience. Its not "shes fucking someone else, he wins you lose."
Its called a rebound, I dumped her. Celebrities lose girls and cant get them back not because of alpha tingles but because you can hurt and damage a relationship that bad to where attraction no longer matters. You realize all these high value men in the music industry, sports industry etc all have ex's right? So because their ex'es are fucking someone else the rebounds are more superior? lol.
Also you dont know any context, I travel the world im 27 years old i work in other countries. I used to sell drugs in college, I used to be in gangs in high school but I got a degree and got my shit together and now travel the world while working. Tingles dont only come in "oh hes a drug dealer" theres also high value tingles of someone who can change your life and lifestyle and im not talking about beta buxx.
Ive lived in Indonesia, Bali, Thailand, Colombia, Mexico, Brazil already. Thats more exciting to women than a low level drug dealer in some slums.
For whatever reason women view it as alpha to travel to foreign lands and be an "invader" and high value westerner (im from USA). This is next level game brother. When you evolve to a certain point you will realize this. Its why some dudes work in an office and go to shitty local bars, because they dont have the means or ambition or courage to do this.
Girls want new experiences, they want to travel to new countries, try new foods, experience new cultures, ride jet skis, ride an ATV thru a jungle, this adventurous game is what the high value men run. And it doesnt require being rich, it requires prioritizing traveling/experiences over video games or whatever guys are doing nowadays
Ive literally hung out in dangerous barrios in Rio de Janeiro and Pablo Escobar operated narco neighborhoods in colobmia. Far from a square i hold my own and make friends and learn the culture. I can go somewhere learn a language and handle any situation that most men would never experience in their life. I travel solo and meet friends and women and if i like them enough i take them with me on my travels.
SMV is about having an exciting lifestyle. Its not the vanilla dude who gets paid good money and his hobbies is woodshop or ceramics lmao. Thats a Betabux