So I (mid twenties) recently gave up weed for the 3123423th time; hoping that it stays permanent this time. My question, however, relates to drinking. I notice that whenever I have a late friday or saturday night, I wake up hungover as hell, which leads to a really late start on my day... and that's IF I get shit done at all that day. For example, a hungover start will lead to me working out at ~1 pm rather than at ~10am, which leads to me missing other opportunities/commitments. When I get back home, I'm even more sluggish from the drinking the night before, and I'm not as on point, which sometimes leads to me hopping on Xbox, which means I waste another few hours, etc. etc.
With my job, I make really good money, so the reality is I have to manage my weekends better if I want to start making enough money on the side for me to quit this job and work on my own business full time. Drinking is the obvious poison that seems to slow down my progress.
I want to stop drinking entirely, which I feel would also help me learn to become fully aware of myself and my capabilities socially (without liquor to provide that boost). I hear about guys like 50 cent and Jack harlow who don't drink or smoke, and they say things like it gives them the belief that they can control everything in their reality because they're always on point and always able to do more than their competitors the next morning. Issue is I'm in my mid twenties, and EVERYBODY IN THE US DRINKS. Having had nights in the past where I didn't drink, people initially become slightly uncomfortable when I say I'm not drinking, almost perceiving me as a party pooper. I have bad self control when it comes to drinking with friends, so I don't feel comfortable limiting myself to 1-2 drinks in a night; I know I'll end up buying more.
Any HVM here have experience dealing with what I'm going through? Any tips on how to approach this?
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I'm what's considered a heavy drinker. It's easy to blame alcohol for everything. The truth is: it's an escape from the Hell on Earth that we call society. I'm pretty sure if I was surrounded by intelligent, thoughtful people and had a meaningful life, I'd find better things to do with my time. Instead, I'm surrounded by brainwashed morons in clown world and there's nothing I can do about it. Like really think about it... we're advanced monkeys hurling through space on a giant rock. Some monkeys are over there flinging poo, some are humping, etc but me... I'm over here watching the show and having a laugh.
12monkeys 4y ago
Hey man you give here often unfiltered comments which I like and I hope you won't stop.
Can you pull the 'Fight Club' trick and go to AA meeting to listen what kind of shit can ensue with this stuff, even small doses regular drinking. You don't know what you don't know.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I realize what can happen to people who drink. I have very strict rules about when and where I drink.
You don't talk about drinking.
You don't drink before 5PM
You don't talk to anyone after you've started drinking(no forums, no chats, no family)
You take NAC when drinking
You get your liver checked every year
You keep your BAC at a level where you don't develop ongoing tolerance(this gets most alcoholics, then their liver goes to shit)
aweawea_ 4y ago
I've decided i just don't drink at all period, and i do get some pretty bad responses but i don't give a fuck, though i need to learn how to respond better when someone tries to tell challenge me on that.
Diabs 4y ago
I quit drinking and smoking years ago. Yes you can live without drugs and alcohol it's not as weird as you think. I obviously don't hang around environments anymore where people would think I'm weird for not drinking. Because hanging around at the pubs and clubs isn't so much fun sober.
I don't struggle at all and no one really even notices or cares whether I drink or not but I'm glad I stopped because my life has improved exponentially.
Give it a go and see how you feel and let us know.
HopelessRomantic 4y ago
You're young, wait till you're in your 30's. Your mind will quit it on its own, or dial it WAYYYY back. When I discovered the Gym and working out, that really pushed me to want to invest in myself and better my SMV. You'd be surprised what going to the Gym does to your priorities. Ok, so you go to the gym and obviously to do so, you must have a good diet and clearly quit smoking and drinking. That's not to say that maybe a beer or two or three with friends on a Friday or Saturday isn't a bad thing - but when you take your fitness seriously and all you want to do is excel, being the perfectionist that I am, I cut out alcohol entirely. I smoked and chewed in my 20's (Military), but haven't in years.
TL/DR: Go to the gym consistently. Smoking and Drinking kill your gains. Stop being a pussy.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I smoke like a chimney and drink like a sailor and it doesn't stop me from going to the gym.
aweawea_ 4y ago
I am 100% with you on that mate but people pull the "what are you, a saint?" because they are all lazy weak bitches (men and women alike) and cant help but try to bring others down who have the will to avoid substances, have good sleep schedule, workout hard and eat well. I just laugh at them and i guess ill just call them out back on how weak they are.
nroo23 4y ago
I used to drink and party very hard when I was mid to late 20s and early 30s. I ran with a crowd who lived to party even though I was one of the youngest in the crew. Life was crazy, as this was in one of the main party destinations, and my friends were 100% committed to partying every night possible and blowing massive wads of cash. Some of the guys had trust funds, some were very high paid professionals and functional alcoholics, and I think the others just had loads of debt.
However, this type of lifestyle takes a huge toll on your mind, body and spirit eventually (and bank account). I gave it up completely for about a year and basically went into monk mode and lost most of these “friends.”
I now only drink occasionally for (actual) special occasions and on dates (and not a lot even then obviously). I don’t keep alcohol in the house as I have no desire to (I just grab a little wine or whatever if I have a date or a girl is coming over).
The hard drinking, party lifestyle gets expensive, boring and old eventually and anyone who centers their life around that for a decade plus just becomes pathetic. It’s the ultimate NPC activity, to still ‘live to party’ and hit the newest clubs as your aging and, in my opinion, shows a lack of individuality and thought (also if you’re a guy you likely you end up broke with a DUI lowering your SMV and if a girl you likely end up a triple digit N-count sucking guys for coke also lowering it).
I’m all about doing it big still occasionally- but it’s way better to have 3 amazing party nights a year then 100 shitty to okay ones.
I achieved mental clarity, dug myself out of a huge financial hole, found a degree of peace, and became much more confident with women after I gave up the party life. It was hard at first, but gets easier over time. A few months of no drinking and likely monk mode and then just drinking on limited occasions is the way to go. You likely won’t miss it as much as you think.
By the way, what you’re thinking at 25 is exactly what I started thinking at 30- so you’re just a few years ahead on the maturity curve. Good for you man.