so i had some chick come from a diff country as a half-arranged thing, she come from poor village. I was v awkward with her she came 3 month ago and yes I was kinda beta but i thought it was okay because she had no experience with guys ofc she is young 18, and i wanted her to feel comfortable and i didnt want to pull any moves cause its family thing right i dont wanna be seen as some perv if she took it the wrong way. Anyway she just did not seem into it at all, even tho we talked for a few months beforehand online, and even then she didnt seem that into it but i thought ok maybe its her personality. She did go on tiktok/insta a lot on her phone tho... sadly... i think this was a red flag tbh. I was looking for basically a very pure and religious girl from my home country when i did this arrangement.
Anyway over this time she would really not seem into it, on her phone alot when we hung out, always made excuses not to do things even tho she had NOTHING else to do... etc.. so I thought its over but she kept saying its not over but eventually she told me she doesnt want to do this anymore... and I got angry bc she lead me on for so long. I told her i know what she really wanna do (ride the cc kek) and stuff she got offended etc... but like lets be real here lol seems like western shit culture seeped everywhere
but like she really deny this opportunity to escape her shitty country, and get FREE schooling in a first world country, her parents are poor they wanted this so bad lol, free nice housing our fam is well off... it made no sense even if i was a balding fat ass i thought she would do it anyway.
Any thoughts? girls really make no sense to me anymore
edit: just saying im also not a low SMV, I have six pack abs, MMA fighter, my looks are pretty okay I have a girl right now who wanna fuck me so it cant be im that ugly... we were the same height though lol maybe it was a height thing...

SheLarror1234 3y ago
Bra, virgin or not, muslim or not, id highly advise to listen to the advice here. Women are sheep, and rarely righteous. Your beta because you still have in your mind the fairytale unicorn women. THEY DONT EXIST. You can bet that the red flags you speak of (westernizm) are actually real red flags and not just over observation.
He liking the party culture, and the western culture is not by mistake. And the exact same redpill stuff applies, even more so to a chick like this.
Tbh shes probably disgusted at your unreal-Istic ness. This chick is probably a pure harlot on the inside.
quietus 3y ago
yes i was expecting her to be the fairy tale unicorn woman... because that is the only way I would pay for her to move, live here and go to school. Otherwise why the hell would I pay for that if she is just AWALT. Oh well I guess they do not exist but that bothers me because whats the point of all this, just to bed whores? Might as well buy prostitutes, at least they will be willing to partake in taboo fetishes.
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quietus 3y ago
haha its not like that, its like a family thing i know their family ive visited there a couple years ago and they love me. It seems to me she was semi-forced to come here though thats the thing... and also they made her come here for months and she had nothing to do cuz lockdown and stuff but even at her own house she barely has stuff to do anyway since they do not let their women go outside other than school and stuff.
For me i treated her great very respectful and i tried to make her comfortable as possible, she told me she felt very safe and comfortable around me and stuff at one point. So idk... idk what went wrong here it makes no sense.
btw she stayed at my uncles house because related, not at my house. So she wasnt in some super new place with new ppl either so idk she also had their kids to keep her company too.
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
This shit is weird as hell. That said, she probably just wants something natural and not some arranged crap with a family friend who just tries to make her comfy. Find something real.
quietus 3y ago
meh, it was really good for both of us, i want a young non-tainted by western culture girl, woudl been great for her cuz free school etc move away from shithole etc idk whatever. Sure it would be a bit rocky in the beginning cause its unnatural but it would work eventually.
"natural" aka chad asked me to come to his room and we did a 3 some and now he wont text me anymore :(((( ... thats what awaits her instead of this...
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
She doesnt see it that way. No girl would
quietus 3y ago
why not? why doesn't anyone ever think long term anymore?
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quietus 3y ago
thing is she is from those type of country and muslim family too so...
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whytehorse2021 3y ago
This is what happens when you negotiate desire. My wife and I arranged our own marriage based on the fact that we wanted marriage and kids. It takes a while after marriage for genuine desire to form. We both sucked at sex and it wasn't very good. This went on for a few years and then that one night... when she conceived my son... it was amazing.
Later on I learned red pill and sex god method and was able to bring out her genuine desire and turn her into a freak in the sheets/lady in the streets. When you take a woman who has no experience with men there is a lot of work up front to teach her everything. It's worth it if she's a high value woman(virgin, Muslim, young, fit, fertile, etc).
FYI my wife is from a poor background as well which really helps because she's frugal and low maintenance. Probably saved me tens of thousands of dollars right there.
quietus 3y ago
is there a way i can save it? she is still here for 20 more days. She is angry at me for what I said. I am angry at her for what she did, but I would still take her back under some circumstances, and the fact that she is from a muslim family young fit and fertile and virgin lol yep.
What should I do?????
whytehorse2021 3y ago
You could apologize. Work out your communication. My wife hates it in the US and so do I. We became friends before I asked her to marry me. We're very different but our common goals are what made it work.
I also think you should re-evaluate what you think she wants. The last thing she wants is to not be marriageable after losing her virginity from pre-marital sex, or to be shamed by society, or to be shamed by her parents for not getting a husband, or to go past her fertility window and not be able to have kids or get married.
Some things my wife loves to do is go fishing, camping, going to goodwill, garage sales, and gardening. Very different from Western women. She hates eating out, spending money, fast food, movie theaters, malls, bars, etc.
This is the period where you get to know each other. Talk about what kind of person you/she is. Does she want kids? How many? When? Where will you two live? Have you met her parents? Where will the wedding be? All of this is vetting. I'm pretty sure she's going to act like a teenager and watch tiktok because she's a teenager and they watch tiktok. My wife is extremely dumb and usually very boring but totally chill and feminine and super nice.
quietus 3y ago
man she is exactly like how u described ur wife lmao... i guess I should say sorry and just try to be friends again. We are very different too but I don't mind bc our personalities are good together we dont bother each other really. Thing is... from my country where she is from its half-westernized this is why I thought she just wanna be a hoe... especially because she told me one of the reasons she doesnt wanna stay is she is still young and wants to "explore herself" or something along those lines... thats why i got mad actually. That only means one thing to me.
also another thing about communication, my communication is actually very decent and i tried to communicate with her a lot over the months about this stuff but her communication is atrocious that was the problem... she really keeps to herself and doesnt open up she even told me she takes forever to open up to anyone so its like idk... i dont wanna wait like 3 years pretending to be in a one sided relationship then get rejected while she goes off and fucks chad im sitting here like a chump lmao.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
You'll be grateful later on for a wife that shuts up and leaves you alone. My wife knew nothing about feminism and was always shooting down my feminist mom's and sister's ideas. Eventually I taught my wife all the lies feminists tell women and showed her examples of how women ruin their lives believing the lies. She's basically anti-feminist now.
After you're married, you can have sex and she'll pair-bond. If you don't go all beta she'll develop genuine arousal and attraction and hopefully be faithful for life, especially if she knows she'll have societal consequences back home. Once we were done having kids, my wife got her tubes tied so IDGAF if she fucks someone else but she's no longer high SMV so the guys she can get won't be better than me and I can trade her in for a younger model or pick up a shiny new 2nd wife after she hits menopause and wants to go take care of her elderly parents or whatever.
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
Pretty cringe how you got angry over that and ran your mouth like a real insecure bloop.
Unless you can magically get good at game and have a better mentality you can probably forget it.
quietus 3y ago
nah it was other stuff too and who cares anyway, I do have good game but I didn't use it with her cuz she isnt a western whore or at least thats what i thought
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
AWALT. Doesnt matter if they're a whore or not. Time to read the sidebar
quietus 3y ago
yea in the end sure but i thought id have much more lee way with this
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quietus 3y ago
yes i did get friendzoned it happens a lot for some reason. I was too timid to make any moves with her cuz of the whole situation, didnt wanna be seen as a perv or something if she took it the wrong way. Regardless of friendzone or not I would of thought she would still try to make it happen... she didnt try at all. 100% when she goes to her country university or something she will get gang banged lmao fuck women time to mgtow
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quietus 3y ago
just meet real girls bro cuz thats easy
quietus 3y ago
also myself im not exactly muslim and idgaf about trying to be macho
whytehorse2021 3y ago
You'd be surprised how beta men are in Muslim families. They still lead the family, have male spaces, are breadwinners, etc but are very much in the woman's frame. Fortunately the women have a much better frame than Western women.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
There is no friendzone in a Muslim woman's life. You're likely to get slapped if you make a move too.
quietus 3y ago
so did i play it right u think? she literally friendzoned me though she said she only sees me as a friend she didnt have "the feelz"...
whytehorse2021 3y ago
This is a negotiation, not a Disney romance movie. You're SUPPOSED to marry your friend. My wife didn't marry me because I'm a 10, she married me because she thought I would make a good husband and father.
We even had a time where we dated other people and were still friends. One day we both grew up and realized we were each other's best option. I mean you could try meeting other 18yr old virgins and see if there is a better one out there while she grows up a little.
quietus 3y ago
augh i guess so, seems kinda stupid but might as well be friends again in case it happens in the future. actually i should mention she isnt like hardcore muslim its eastern european chick is it different in that case?
whytehorse2021 3y ago
It really depends on her parents and upbringing, hence the vetting process. My wife's parents are very religious and she was raised that way. Beware the fake Muslims but I find it hard to believe she's fake if she's having an arranged marriage.
quietus 3y ago
nah the family is vetted i know them personally and stuff been there. She was not allowed out of the house yet except for school. i was just worreid cuz the tiktok shit and her liking party culture although i think its just a phase or something
whytehorse2021 3y ago
This is one of the feminist lies: "You have unrealized potential" which comes out as women saying they need to "explore themselves". What follows is a long list of self-destructive behaviours. http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/ten-lies.html
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