I've fucked up and displayed some unattractive behaviour. Basically, I've been having a horrendous comedown all week as a result of going to this big rave at the weekend for a friend's birthday. It's severely affected my mood and ability to be my normal self this week and have appeared quite withdrawn.
My LTR understands this, but I have been acting emotionally distant with her this week and created an air of negativity being around her. Realistically what I should have done this week is focus on myself feeling better, exercise etc.
Instead, what I've done is hang out with her as we'd already made plans to go see some of her family and it's caused all sorts of problems because of my low mood and withdrawnness. She kept teasing me about being moody and I'd just agree & amplify but I think the issue was that it went on for several days.
I started to feel better and more normal but last night we got into a weird argument - she called me a 'fucking idiot' for making myself feel this rough this week. I was a bit taken aback as she's never said something like that. I said that's out of order and double standards as she doesn't like it when I've said rude things to her as a joke.
I tried to pretend it didn't bother me, but I withdrew attention and rolled over and went to sleep. She was teasing me in the morning about if I still feel moody. I tried to do some agree and amplify and started being really dramatic as a joke. But there was still some tension and I was still annoyed about what she said. I stupidly was upfront about it and brought up how I still think she was out of order with what she said. Predictably it just made things worse and she suddenly went really cold and got out of bed and stormed off to get ready for work.
She was completely silent and ignoring me whilst we were getting ready to leave. As I was leaving we said bye and I asked her if we were still on for this thing she'd invited me to at the weekend. She just said "Yeah but you don't have to come if you don't want to". I replied "Why wouldn't I want to come?" and she just said "I don't know..." and then burst into tears.
I think that she feels like I didn't really want to come along with her this week and I just say 'yes' to things and go along with it.
I hugged her and tried to console her, but pushed me away and got into the car.
Now I feel really stupid and not really sure what to make of this? Advice please?

SeasonedRP 2 4y ago
Ignore her for a while. Interacting with her will make it worse.
coolsocks00 1 4y ago
This is classic. She's being a dick and ends up playing the victim.
You're acting insecure and needy, offering up frame to her.
This kinda behaviour is just gonna make her second guess you. Get back to leading her and not the other way around.
Growing 4y ago
Start by fixing your life.
Don't rave that hard until you know for sure you are an attractive motherfucker.
It has become natural.
You being distant is attractive btw.
If she's an ltr, she wants comfort.
Something like " it has nothing to do with you. I just need some time" will help.
"I'm a fucking idiot. What does that make you?" Say that with a playful tone then peck her.
Later In the day, tell her you didn't like how she addressed you and she should look for better names like babe.
Your distance, to her, is dread.
But matters to her might go beyond that because she wanted to show you off.
Have you ever heard of drunk captaining?
That's what you did.
You should have gotten your life in order when you heard she was going to see her family.
I cannot emphasize the importance of reputation to girls. You ruined it for her.
In as much as you should do things for you, the value you provided to her was no more at the time she needed it to be.
This is both a good and a bad thing.
A good thing when it comes to her knowing you are unpredictable. A bad thing for a long term strategy.
You need to take an initiative. But not so fast.
Maybe next month tell her something like:
" Let's go back to your parent's place. I liked it"
She will give you shit.
You'll have to be ready for it.
"OK. Seems you don't want it. It's cool. Put on your shoes. Let's grab a drink at [whatever place]"
Game her, fuck her.
Go distant.
Then bring the topic up again after two months.
"I saw your parents do this thing. I'd like to learn more about this"
I don't think she'll give you shit on this.
After you make a good reputation with her family, now stop drunk captaining.
I'd almost beg you for your own sake to stop drunk captaining.
Fucking stop drunk captaining.
You are a leader. At least in the relationship.
Don't repeat that.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Yeah, this isn't good.
This shows terrible character on her part. Insulting and attacking you for feeling down make her NOT A LTR. It's normal in women, they attack weakness, but this is unacceptable in a LTR. Demote to FWB and fuck other women.
You're right to bring it up, but you should do it an a "this is not acceptable, do not do that" way.
At this point she's afraid of more bad mood from you and thinks you want out of the relationship (passive aggression is how women end relationships, so she assumes you do too).
You've displayed weakness and bad mood on a consistent basis. And she didn't cause it.
Insulting you for this is out of order on her part.
For your part: you should avoid women when you feel down (creates scarcity). Women are not supportive or nurturing of men they are attracted to: a woman's support is reserved for children and family, if you don't want to be her brother then don't ask or need any support from her.
Conversely......showing this kind of weakness is a great way to prove she is unsuitable for a mutually supportive LTR, so you now have that information.
But if you want a woman to be attracted, you must never display this sort of weakness.
Amazonforest 4y ago
lol dude, youre taking this too seriously. You can show weakness just in different ways.
schlinquo 4y ago
Thanks, this all makes sense. Do you have any tips on where to go from here and get over this blip? I'm in a weird place now where I feel the need to admit to her I haven't been great company recently, but I also think she feels like she wasn't in the wrong for calling me a 'fucking idiot'. Trying to rationalize this, she said I I once told her to 'fuck off' ...but I said it in a friendly jokey way whilst I was laughing, in a normal context, which obviously isn't the same thing.
I don't want to pander or have any resentment build from the way this has been handled
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
don't do this
right
Right, which shows how she'll try and manipulate the situation. "This is normal and you did it", even though you didn't. Usual lack of responsibility for actions. Fine for a FWB. Not great in a LTR.
Ok, here's your gameplan:
schlinquo 4y ago
Appreciate the advice. So we ended up talking about it later in the day. She claims she apologized for calling me a 'fucking idiot' which she did do. But she worded it "I'm sorry if you felt offended" so she is basically suggesting I was being sensitive about it, which is why I woke up still feeling annoyed as it wasn't a proper apology.
Anyway, I've decided to just move on from this but I am a bit concerned our relationship dynamic has changed now I've lost frame and she could start seeing how much she can get away with.
If something like this happens again I just say 'don't say that, that's not acceptable' and withdraw attention/go do something else?
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
This is a non-apology and not accepting responsibility.
Right.
You don't need an apology. You need to tell her "don't be rude again, that is not acceptable to me". ie it's first warning that she crossed a boundary. When she answers back, simply ignore her.
likely yes.
Yes, exactly.
The one thing women hate the most is being insignificant / blanked / ignored / not part of your life / not emotionally responded to. So this is what you do.
What women LOVE: arguments, fighting, emotion, "talking things through" - all these things show commitment and weaken your position.
Amazonforest 4y ago
As someone who had been to lots of raves and experimented with drugs. You NEED to take time to yourself and get better, dont spend time with her, take a week off or something. It will help both of yous. She just being a women and wants you to appreciate her and be fun like you were before
MrSupreme 4y ago
A woman crying is her last defense, the last resistance, show some comfort for your LTR
whytehorse2021 4y ago
You lost frame. Better get it back quick. Growing is right about drunk captaining. Be dominant and do it fast or this will be over soon.
unplugged69 4y ago
Men are the leaders and women look to us for guidance. You acted moody which made her moody.
However she disrespected you and then you walked into her frame. That's a double whammy.
Your only option is to go out without her, make new friends, flirt with other women, etc when she texts you, you are very busy. Do this until her attitude improves