I’m 25 and I’ve decided to go back to college because I lost my manual job due to the company not having enough work which resulted in me having to stay at the homeless shelter for a while so I wanted to get a skill that pays namely IT. And I see young beautiful women all the time. I struggle with conversation though, I can approach no problem but it’s keeping the conversation going that’s the problem. I recently got 2 girl’s Snapchat which I send snaps to one to build streaks I feel like this one kinda likes me but I’ve just been taking it slow and making small talk with everyone, because I don’t want to be that guy on college campus that every girl has rejected and develop a reputation.
Any tips and/or conversation topics anyone could recommend?

realiti 4y ago
A trade would probably be better. "IT" sounds good. Air conditioning, office, etc but if you look at the jobs out there, a good portion of it is phone support shit masquerading as IT where they time your bathroom breaks and such. Also, a lot of the "dev" jobs are overcrowded and change people like an incontinent nursing home patient on fluid pills change diapers. Now, you can say those people suck or maybe were unlucky. But you do you.
I am assuming you are out of the shelter. I have been homeless myself. If not, Shelters fucking suck. Horrible people both clients and staff, strict ass curfews that hinder job hunts, etc. If you are still there, I'd forgo the drama with women (or just get a prostitute) and concentrate on getting better housing if not a dorm or the waitlist for graduate housing. Monk Mode is my suggestion if you are in that situation. While it is possible to get some trust fund baby girl with an off campus apartment that would solve housing to get around this, it's really too much drama.
As far as everything else, it's a numbers game. But, I would not limit myself to just college girls. There are working girls in that age range too out in the community.
Try online dating stuff. At least online, people are supposed to be there because they are looking. Which can be harder to tell in person. Talk to several girls and don't fear rejection. Be really cool and interesting (like you are). After all, if you can survive homelessness to go back to school, you have more epic badassedry than most of those punks out there.
Blingo123 4y ago
Yeah I’m out the homeless shelter now thank god and i completely agree with about the people and staff there horrible people, the staff were setting the fire alarms off at 5 in morning just to piss the homeless people off. I’ve got like a little little flat hoping to get a bigger one soon but hey it’s a start.
I’m not going to try tinder because I don’t really like the idea of it and find it a bit cringe on dates and there’s mostly single mums on there anyway. Well I’m snapping 2 girls from college daily, going to try to set up a meet soon with one of them.
Thanks man appreciate it.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
Women are most attracted to older guys like 3-7 years older. So that puts you in the range of girls 18-22. If you want a skill that pays become a farmer, truck driver, tradesman, etc. I've been looking at jobs I'm qualified for(grower) and all of them pay over $100k. My 11 years in IT will most likely land me a tech support job at $30k. My Physics degree will most likely land me a teaching job at $30k.
You're young enough that you could go into the military and learn a trade for free while getting paid and getting free rent and food. Air force has the best bases. After 4 years you could go to college for free, get a low interest home loan, and serve in the national guard so you get a retirement at age 45. Take your trade and build your own business and be rich. When you hit your peak at age 35 you'll be drowning in college girl pussy.
Blingo123 4y ago
Thanks, but I’m doing IT namely programming and stuff, and I don’t really want to go into the army because I wouldn’t be able to work on my purpose which is all I do besides college.
If I can at least land a junior developer role I’ll be happy ~£50,000 start all the way to £100,000 for a senior which will take a few years.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
You don't need to go to school to learn programming. The military has programming courses you can take for free. Combine military programming experience with a top secret clearance and you can name your price. Those are the guys making $100k+. Either way you're giving up 4 years. What's this purpose of yours that's worth giving all that up?
Blingo123 4y ago
I comepletely understand where your coming from but the purpose of me going to college to programming is to get the qualifications (I already know programming in c#/c++ because I’ve been on my purpose ie my project, for a good 2 years which I taught myself through online courses on Udemy). I just need to finish my project which I’m working on now it’s 10pm on a Friday now night here in the UK, another hour then I’m gonna have a beer and go to sleep and crack on first thing in the morning.
My purpose as ams would say is the only fighting chance I have of making it in this life. And I’m not wasting anymore time. I feel like if I went into the military then I wouldn’t be able to work on purpose which to me is of way greater significant importance than joining the military.
Fuck it the last girl I lost(tanned brunette absolutely gorgeous) left me for a short scrawny petty weed dealer absolutely embarrassing by the way, he probably makes more money than me and that’s when I realized I need to go 110% at my purpose. And I’ve made some breakthroughs which I never thought I would and there’s still more problems that need to be solved.
My life is literally college if I have it then straight home and straight on my purpose. Barely ever see my friends all I do is send 1 snap to 2 girls from college everyday. Going to try to set up a meet with one soon though, she ain’t all that bad no piercing or nothing which I look for in a girl but she’s a goth type girl so.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I wonder how many slumdogs in India have the same idea...
Blingo123 4y ago
What do you mean?
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I mean out of the 1.38 billion people in India, how many do you think will learn C#/C++, get a degree, and take the job you think exists but it's merely a company posting a job so they can get permission from the Labor Dept to hire a low-wage Indian and get a visa?
Blingo123 4y ago
Well yeah but if my mission works out which I’m working my bollocks off so it does then I can start my own company and hire low wage Indians lol.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
All I'm saying is think of it from all angles. I got blind-sided by Indian workers and then by overseas workers.
unplugged69 4y ago
Conversation is in the moment, we can't tell you what to say but you need to understand a few basics.
a) don't be afraid to argue with her, in fact teasing her about things is the best way to flirt: https://www.forums.red/p/TheRedPill/4972/humansockpuppet_s_guide_to_teasing_bitches/653684
b) become a more interesting person, learn more languages, read more, learn about art, music, popular culture, diversify your hobbies. You should be doing this ANYWAY to become a more complete person. Be a true renaissance man and you'll never be bored or boring in a conversation
c) If you find something good to tease she will respond positively and you can bring it up as an inside joke afterwards
d) It's less what you say but HOW you say it. At least 90% of conversation is down to body language, tone of voice, etc. Think about stand up comedy, you can say the same lines but if you fuck up the timing you lose. That's conversation right there.
Now, you don't hit up every girl on campus and say "can we go on a date", the approach here is slightly different. You need to be a very sociable guy, you talk to EVERYONE, men, women, lecturers, whatever. With women you find attractive you flirt, and when they give you IOIs and flirt back, that's when you know you can ask them out. This way you're practically guaranteed a date, you expand your social circle so you have a lot of avenues to meet new women AND you get some nice social proof, and you're not that creepy guy that got rejected by 30 women last week.
Cold approaching and asking for a date or number within 5 minutes is something you do in a gigantic city like london or new york, where you'll NEVER see her again nor any of her friends. You don't do that on a college campus where all the popular kids know eachother, does that make sense?
Also 25 isn't old, you're actually in a better position if you're slightly older because women don't date guys their age when they are young. There's a nice chart online about what age they prefer but it's always slightly older until about 40s and then they try to go for younger guys but fail and quickly correct. It's pretty funny actually
Blingo123 4y ago
Ok yeah I’m actually doing that anyway getting more hobbies ie starting boxing next week.
Thanks for the reply and the link really helps me out, I will use this post as a reference.
unplugged69 4y ago
That's great to hear, I'm glad you're on the right track. Never stop self improving and good luck man, I know you'll make it.
Index 4y ago
Okay but you dont necessarily need to approach on Campus. Theres literally sooooooooo much stuff you can do when studying. In my college there used to be options to go on Erasmus all the time (which is basically just one huge fuckfest), join ESN or AIESEC students organizations (again basically one huge fuckfest), students wednesday at a particular club in the city. One professor used to organize frequent gettogethers every month, other hosted movie nights in the school, there were student parties, dorm parties, holy shit so many things and opportunities to engage with people, not just women, have a casual conversation about anything related and then ask the chick out if you see shes worth a shot. The cold approaching could be the last solution when you see some chick you really like or smth, but other than that I think if cold approach is your primary means of meeting girls in college then - while brave - youre probably not doing college right.
Blingo123 4y ago
Yeah I live in a pretty small town so there’s not really much activities to do other than fitness and Pilates but I’ll look into it thanks.