I put a spying app on LTR's phone and had it running for almost a month. During this period, I placed her on soft next where I basically cut all contact. The logic behind this being that most women will switch to anyone they've been cheating with when the relationship is rocky. I didn't find anything alarming, other than her watching porn one morning (she had claimed she doesn't watch porn). Was a couple of videos of chics playing with themselves. Her phone later starts freezing and draining the battery too fast and that's when she started digging. She sent screenshots of all the apps she suspected asking whether I knew about them, which I denied. Had to factory reset her phone. A few days later I picked her call while really drunk and blabbered on stuff that I wouldn't normally know (places she had gone and that kind of shit). I know I lost frame terribly and I still cringe about it. She still made the effort to get the LTR back on track. I brought up the issue to see where her head was about the whole issue. Said as much as it's an invasion of privacy, it would be kinda justified if I did that because I'm her boyfriend. Do you guys think I can recover from this loss of frame? My other problem is that I never seem to be okay with not knowing everything that's going on in my life. I keep tabs on all people I'm involved with, even if it's business related (it's a field where people will backstab you the minute you stop watching your back). I also got involved with lots of women, both single and married, after discovering TRP and this gave me immense trust issues. I would hate to be caught unaware. How do I avoid the temptation to spy again? Even if I don't find anything won't I just assume she's gotten better at covering her tracks? And before you mention it, I know I shouldn't be this invested.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
So you installed a spy app, purposefully soft nexted (an LTR, not a plate) for a whole month, for no reason at all apart from a thought exercise. Found nothing. And then started mentioning places you couldn't have otherwise known about?
It sounds like you learned a lot more about your autism than what she was up to, which was nothing.
By not doing it, not one part of what you did was red-pilled at all. You just took insecurities you obtained via TRP and then proceeded to be very blue-pilled
Edit: I'm not trying to be harsh, this just needs to be a major eye opener for the trajectory of your TRP journey. The tactical soft next for a month on its own warrants a full commentary on why that's bad for an LTR. LTR's need some semblance of comfort
w4iks 4y ago
Thanks for the detailed response. I know this was very cringe behavior. I'm still working on the trusting until given reason not to but it's a long process. The issues I'm facing here are not limited to women, they cut across all areas of my life. I have always been the snoopy/investigative type since I was a kid. It itches not knowing what is happening. Same with the soft nexts, I always cut people off at the slightest inconvenience. Probably because growing up I was almost self sufficient and people depended on me more than I on them. It's something I'm learning to control. These issues tend to carry over into my relationships.
pfeilmacher 4y ago
If you installed a spy app on her phone, you never had frame to begin with.
You're a fucking psycho and need therapy. BAD.
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w4iks 4y ago
No. The soft next actually started on a day she was supposed to come over for sex. Simply called and told her not to. Then spent the month partying and banging random sluts. On the negative, for the first time she suspected I was getting it elsewhere.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I used to work at flexispy.com a spyware maker. When an employee with loose lips told me it was being used by governments en masse to track reporters and dissidents, I was fired the next day. Either you believe in the 4th amendment for everyone or you don't believe in it at all.
At the end of the day, you risked losing her much in the same way all those governments got instantly discredited once the spyware scandal was exposed. Zero trust. Relationships are built on trust. You also exposed her data to a 3rd party and all it takes is one employee to share her nudes on the black market.
w4iks 4y ago
I know flexispy, messed with the spyware a few years back for other reasons I won't mention. You must have had an interesting experience working with them. I'm working on my trust issue but it is a long process. You see something happen to another guy and the awalt defence comes up. I'm not in the US, I'm actually in Africa. Thanks for your input.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
Dude you gotta tell me about black women. I've only seen a few in my life because Asia and Caucasia have very few and that's where I lived and grew up. They can be very attractive from what I've seen online but in person I have only a few examples. I saw a hottie a few months back and she was probably a refugee. The local black women on dating apps are usually 100lbs overweight but is it different in Africa?
w4iks 4y ago
Most of East African women are really beautiful and slender. Submissive and ready to take the traditional woman role too. Western culture is however fast spreading in the big cities and it's easy to find a good number of materialistic bitches.
Boris1998 4y ago
Bro, what in the crippling oneitis is this shit you really download a spy app?
w4iks 4y ago
I know I need to lay back and get my head in order bro.