Like the post title suggests. Let's say there's a girl who flaked on me multiple times (we kissed and made out. Invited her out a few times after, said she was extremely busy with work, had to tend to mother etc). I soft nexted her and we haven't talked in half a year. I have dated others in the mean time.
I noticed lately she has been posting some sad stories on her instagram, one has a picture of the place we first met.
I know trp says that no self-respecting man would give flakers a second or third chance, but there's not much to lose in a case like this, is it? I already moved on, we don't talk and likely won't meet again anyway, so why should I care what they think about me?
What are your thoughts? Have you done something similar and how was the result? Appreciate your input, guys. Many thanks
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SgtBuchannon99 4y ago
"flaky women" are ALL women. The ones that dont flake are only dependent on you and her dynamic. That one girl that never flakes on you has flaked on dozens of other guys.
women dont respect anyones time unless they want to fuck you or they get a paycheck from you (workplace) and cant be late or they get fired.
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SgtBuchannon99 4y ago
This is something I discovered in my anger phase. its that no woman is truly good. she's cruel af to some random people. or has been to someone in the past, very cutthroat. even our moms and sisters and aunts and girlfriends we hold in good light, etc.
I can't say the same about men though. Some guys are just good fucking people all around and even though they dont take shit they still treat everyone with respect unless they have a right not to. Dont get me wrong 80% of men act like bitches nowadays though: gossiping, undermining, jealous, etc Women in 2021 seem to operate on a "I will naturally gravitate towards disrespecting you until you earn my respect" sort of frame, its very extremist nowadays. I may be exaggerating a bit, but you get my point. Obviously Chad is the exception, who she will naturally respect upon first impression.
Before it used to be "I will respect everyone until proven otherwise" adage, I think women used to have this dynamic with men 10 years ago.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
With men the threat of violence is there. It used to be there for women but once it went away they became what they are now. Zero consequences. Like spoiled brats.
SgtBuchannon99 4y ago
maybe one day the pendulum will swing back, but not in our lifetime. it seems to be a generational thing and may take a few to hit the other side like a cycle. I mean do we wanna live in a warrior society again? thats a lot of destruction and chaos just to have a woman respect men again ..
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I think it's more like average men are abandoning the West. You wouldn't really know because google rigs the search results and censorship is ongoing but I've had my boots on the ground and seen it first hand. I left in my early 30s and I saw lots of younger guys leave. They're predicting stagflation for the US so just the economics will push people out
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
Like fallen said, the chance she'll just flake or reject again and you'll regret having broken frame is far higher than the chance she says yes or fucks you.
You know, I know, and everyone else know she wouldn't flake on Chad, and if she did, she would make alternative plans after disrespecting Chad. It's a hard truth but you've got to keep upping your value and going for women who can recognize that value
Not this flaker
Hanscheezburger 4y ago
I agree with both you and Fallen.
The thing is in the 6 months we cut contact, I've lost almost 10kg and went from chubby with a double chin to six pack. My 2 plates since then have been younger and as good, if not better looking. The flaker saw my pictures and watched all of my stories. I have a feeling she might be dtf. Even if she flakes now, I doubt I would feel upset about it.
Still I agree with you guys, it was very disrespectful what she did. I plan to just tell her I'm doing xyz this weekend and it'd be great for her to join and catch up bc it's been a while. If she says yes, I'll make up an excuse and flake. Would that be too petty?
BusterVadge 4y ago
Good for you on the self-improvement, brother! Since you're already getting other plates, you should just ignore flakes and go for girls who see you as the man you are.
If you're pining over a girl who rejected you, it's either oneitis, or a personal mental issue that you need to address.
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Hanscheezburger 4y ago
I do admit I had oneitis for this one a couple months back. Got over it after finding new plates and doing my own things. So like I said, I wouldn't be upset if we never meet again
A little update: I DID ask her out and she didn't flake this time. Arrived very late though, coughing and saying she been sick for the last week. We had some small talk where she complained about work stress and how she has no time. Blah blah. a kiss but couldn't close the deal. Anyway she asked me to hang out next weekend. I said maybe. Will likely spend time with my current plate actually.
I don't regret this meeting though, as throughout it I kept thinking "I had oneitis over this? Really?". I believe it helped solidify trp philosophy for me. Thanks guys for all the advices, you have been very helpful and I appreciate all the input
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mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Why would you bother with more of that shit in your life? Put your effort into finding girls who know what they want, and want you.
Hanscheezburger 4y ago
You're right as usual. I just had time this weekend and the girl I'm seeing is out of town so I thought why not? I agree about not bothering with more shit definitely, will keep it just plate level this time and meanwhile finding better prospects. Thanks mattyanon
SgtBuchannon99 4y ago
AMS says that he would probably get 30% more pussy if he asked twice, the second time being another attempt. After that he recommended cutting her off, but he admits that you may lose pussy if you have a take it or leave it, ask one and discard approach.
obviously you go a bit against your pride again and can risk rejection twice from the same girl, but sometimes the second time is your breakthrough. its really on how you interpret it..
Hanscheezburger 4y ago
Agree with that. I had success in the past after a few months (even years) of no contact. It all depends on the situation I guess
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I did this once. She just kept flaking. Total waste of time.
NotGoodWithUsernames 4y ago
Just slide in the DMs and be direct about it. Who cares if she rejects/flakes again, just do not be a simp.