- Been in the manosphere since college now. Since then I've reached my genetic natural max body composition and improved my looks (lookmaxx lol?).
Anyways bros, I've been back on Tinder and man that has been such a redpill for me. After all the hard work on improving myself and looks, I still match with just plain janes. Which to me is a pretty good indication of my SMV - average at best. I've never been happy with just hooking up with average looking girls, so at this point I figure I just go 100% into my career and bank on that improving my SMV as I get older.
User4566 4y ago
Something I've noticed is, plain janes are usually the ones looking to hook up on tinder because most of the REAL hot girls on tinder already have a plethora of guys they are fucking without tinder so they use it to gain instagram followers and promote OF content.
BabyUareSoSexy 4y ago
Tinder is anything but a redpill, it's all fake. I have shitty pictures, I barely fuck girls from Tinder; But when I go out in real life, I have a lot of success. Stop taking OLD seriously. It's like 80% men and 20% women, they have way too many options. It's best to just quit it.
AnthonyScaramucci 4y ago
I'm 24 btw
NewCambrianEra 4y ago
Tinder is dead. Better off with alternative dating websites And cold approaches (especially with this social distancing shit.)
AnthonyScaramucci 4y ago
All the good looking girls my age are still on Tinder mostly. There is bumble and hinge, all though I have not tried those but the same SMV concept still applies.
NewCambrianEra 4y ago
I disagree that ALL the good looking girls are on tinder. Tinder has gave women entirely to much attention and validation. My point is that going outside of your traditional dating pool will intern increase you value and selection.
The further you go from the source of a thing the more valuable it becomes. Because of novelty.
coolsocks00 1 4y ago
You dont need to use tinder. But there's probably a lot you can do to make your profile stand out and generate better matches.
Also, Game is an important part of your SMV, so simply forgetting about it just to focus on your career is wasting your potential. Explore and find the environments you like to pick up girls in.
johnnysmallseed 4y ago
The biggest truth is going to be when you make a second profile and post fake pictures of yourself on yachts, hanging with some celebs, and artists, and subtly showing you have money. I'm 6/10 at best, and I started getting super likes and likes almost instantly. My page blew up from getting 8s, and 9's. That's a reality check.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
How exactly does one make those fake photos?
johnnysmallseed 4y ago
Photoshop, knowing a celebrity, or sourcing pics that aren't yours from the internet.
SheLarror1234 4y ago
Ye online tools for women are NOT made for connection. Its made for "dating" aka women fishing for benefits, from men. Women never have problems with dating or sex. And Its not always about attention. Women treat these online things like a business tool.
Think about it. Women don't need tinder so why do they use it? They get hit on in real life, and real life has always been more exciting, so why do they create profiles? Our standards of high value is not even the same as a women's. Ours is cute and decent. Theirs is celebrity. The rich popular prince celebrity. They have "decent" guys everywhere.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
some women have tinder profiles purely for the attention
Some women are trying to hook up with the hottest guy she can for fun, any given night
some women are looking for a date, and in the meantime if a hot guy hits her up and she's bored a ONS will due. those are the one's who say, not interested in ONS or hookup. They are, for the right guy.
why? because they can.
johnnysmallseed 4y ago
No doubt. I wish I could say I was shocked but it reaffirmed everything I read about female nature. Same day I made my account I had several super likes, and over 15 likes, all of them bombshells. Never had that attention before. I wonder what changed. I encourage everyone to do so they can realize they see us as success objects.
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
@Neospartan. That's blue pill advice. Every RP aware man knows all women are the same. Only some leverage their value more than others. If you want a "nice girl who likes you for who you are" that's a blue pill fantasy. And so are leagues.
SheLarror1234 4y ago
i agree. reality is most of these cute girls are not even in the league of most men logically. Its like when some guy says something about the world and everyone calls him a conspiracy theorist, or when your smart but people tell you to get mental help. Reason why ugly, short, or weird and bad dudes can still get "9s and 10s"
But i also would say that OLD is really a scam. Online dating anything really. Your not going to find what you want there
johnnysmallseed 4y ago
We also have to realize we live in a parallel world with blue pills. We have to re-define words. Me and a mod were just talking about this. Like "Good men" women claim are in shortage, they use that word as shaming tactic against "alpha males" who hit it and quit it to "mqn up" but ignore the abundance of good men outside the top men they pursue. It's a female defined term to mean, "ANY man who benefits my sexual imperatives is good and anything else is toxic masculinity."
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
@Neospartan, and you wonder why I call you blue pilled. "Find a girl who will like you for who you are", "out of your league", "find a nice girl who isn't like the rest of them". This is all blue pill thought that has been examined and talked about extensively. There's even a chapter dedicated to each quote in Rollos book. I suggest you read it.
There's so much fundamentally wrong with your post.
And then there's your conflation of what makes men attractive. Yes, I'm physically a 6 but your ignoring confidence, Game, money, and status. Men are seen as success objects, not sex objects like women. Class is in session so take a seat and take your notepad out.
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
I can't tell if you are trying to get validation or not. Either way, nobody likes a braggart @NeoSpartan. And this is why this forum is a joke. Guys come into an RP space and dilute it with Blue Pill ideology.
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
There are fundamentals you are missing in order to have this conversation. The sentence, "Find a girl in your league who will like you for who you are" is blue pill. And I've explained it already. You have to concede major points of RP to say that.
First off, leagues are used as excuses to avoid talking to women you find attractive. Second, no girl likes you for who you are. They like you based on conditions. Third, "who you are" is an illusion used to entrap you into a role. A role that might not be beneficial to you. Fourth, there is more value to a man than his looks. Fifth, there is no "find a nice girl that's different". That's a oneitis branch off from an idealized woman out there that can meet your idea of what a woman should be. Learn @NeoSpartan
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
You're an uninformed man trying to argue about something you admit to know nothing about. Make any claim you want. You might as well be a baby yelling, "No!"
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
My job isn't to convince you. Only to expose you to everybody else.
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johnnysmallseed 4y ago
And that's the difference. Opinion Vs Fact. This comment chain will expose you for a Self admitted Red pill fraud. In fact, mocking RP fundamentals with Blue pill ideology.
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Hanscheezburger 4y ago
Diversify my friend. Give tinder a shot if you want to improve your chances but dont put all your eggs in one basket.
Cold approach.
Hang out with friends. Be friendly with people. Create a vibe that makes people comfortable around you.
You'll be pleasantly surprised at how simple it can be, then you won't even need Tinder
dirtymikeandtheboyz 4y ago
How are your pics ? Mine are pretty shit and i still get some decent matches here and there so i dont think looks is the issue. Maybe you are one of the many guys that have no idea how to take a photo that shows them in a positive light. There was a kid that posted here a while ago that had some pretty shit pics of himself and the moment he took some better photos he started getting better matches.
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