So, I"m curious, especially for you young guys who have a different world than us old guys.
First, I'm assuming the proposed LTR girl is sane, good attitude, works, no drugs,good cook, cleans,etc. Seems like a keeper is what I'm getting at.
Now, What are your limits on a LTR regarding her past? If she is 23, has an N count of 15+, did some kinky stuff, ONS, 3somes, etc. Is she eliminated from LTR option?
What if she treats you like you are her alpha, does it matter? Sex on demand, she initiates a lot, loves it, does things for you, cooks, cleans, pays her way, treats you as the captain, she's submissive like a first mate and so on.
Does all that. Does her past matter? Within limits of course, mine are below.
curious because for you younger guys, there's going to be a very small pool of women who haven't been on the CC for example. so what's the plan? Look for a girl with N count 5 or less, don't do LTR, what's the plan?
Me, I'm old, I don't ask N count but get a general idea of how much of a slut she was. I go more on don't care about that, i'm focused on me. How does she treat me, what does she do for me. I do have some limits regarding just sex , like did she cheat on her X? any type of prostitution,etc. I have lots of relationship limits.
And of course, you never know her history. You only hear what she wants you to hear. Always have to realize that, that's why I say above, get a general Idea of how much of a slut she was. It's ALWAYS more than you know.
SheLarror1234 4y ago
Now, What are your limits on a LTR regarding her past? If she is 23, has an N count of 15+, did some kinky stuff, ONS, 3somes, etc. Is she eliminated from LTR option?
What if she treats you like you are her alpha, does it matter? Sex on demand, she initiates a lot, loves it, does things for you, cooks, cleans, pays her way, treats you as the captain, she's submissive like a first mate and so on. Does all that. Does her past matter? Within limits of course, mine are below.
curious because for you younger guys, there's going to be a very small pool of women who haven't been on the CC for example. so what's the plan? Look for a girl with N count 5 or less, don't do LTR, what's the plan?
If you need someone to clean your house, find a maid who can clean your house, not a handyman who can build the roof. What happens when you tell a maid to fix your roof, or a handyman to clean your house? Likewise, what happens when you expect modern women to fit a traditional role?
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
I'm totally with no diamond, (in any scenario), in the USA, marriage is to protect the woman, fuck they guy.
I get you and not saying you are wrong.
You aren't looking for LTR"s. how old are you? I think 30 and under, it's not a big deal. As you move beyond 30, banging young chicks gets old, you don't have time (work) to go out every night and most of your guy group is (settled) down. I see this as tough into your 30's. I mean some guys love the challenge and constant new girls. I didn't care about that and was so busy working, didn't have much time during the week to socialize.
So, no kids either. I think if you are in your 20's, easy to say, as you move into late 30's , early 40's. I think most guys want a legacy, kids. Having kids with a single mom, it doesn't matter much in USA, you are still liable and worse she will get custody for sure.
Not saying I'm right , you are wrong. Just wondering what the future holds for the young generations. I think it's safe to say, this is not going to improve any time soon.
SheLarror1234 4y ago
Banging these young chicks is really not as easy as you would think for younger guys nowadays. These women keep raising the standards high, even at younger ages. You need a lot of flex, and the game does appeal to a certain type of personality. Most dudes my age seem to have already been living that post 30 "tough reality" lol. Its not a new thing for us. And i also think as time moves forward we are seeing way less dudes settling down, or the guys who are truly settled down a "certain type" of guy you probably would not want to really be friends with, logically.
So, no kids either. I think if you are in your 20's, easy to say, as you move into late 30's , early 40's. I think most guys want a legacy, kids
I think to understand "the youth" we have to understand the world we live in currently. For example, with women, you just can't expect from today's time what you expected to get from women in old times from the past. Its like an iphone. Its high tech, but did you buy it to last 20+ years? Things are not built for that.
So in the future i can see us going to either the old old times where dudes had multiple wifes, because no dude even values the "relationship" or "kids" anymore. Or where nobody has them anymore, or its a very rare thing. Dudes are not going to want to settle down because we were already ready to do that in our youth. Imagine having to work and do so much to grow only to get used trash in the end? This is the mentality I can imagine most of us growing into as we turn 30-40. And its going to be a lot who choose honor over
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
Women in 20's, some want relationships, they can't really enjoy sex if not emotionally something there. Others just want casual sex and the tingles/excitement. Today, more and more are into the casual side. so, they are banging the hottest guys they can get, think Tinder shopping. A 6-7 girl can easily get 8-9 guys to bang her.
Once they want a LTR, they have to adjust their (physical) requirements downward. I can't get those hot guys anymore, I need to lower it and it sucks, I want chad.
So, they lower the SMV of guy they are looking for and raise the RMV of the guy (provide money, pays attention to me, blah blah). Mainly because the tinder god she normally fucks , there were no requirements of RMV , it was not a relationship. Alpha fucks, beta bucks.
I agree with you, the thought of getting into a LTR in your 30's with women who were doing this in their teens/20's is not appealing at all.
It will mess them up also, they won't get tingles for you like they did with the Greek Gods from Tinder who f'd her brains out. Having sex with you, they are thinking of the chads. I see more and more dead beadrooms coming for LTR"s,etc. It's why I'd never get married today in this environment. So, for guys who want a family, kids, it's really really a mess.
LTR, sure and she better add value in RMV and if she tones down the sex for no real reason, I remove my attention and start looking elsewhere and eventually move on if she "doesn't get it". My LTR gets it, she knows RP so we'll see how that works out.
I have sons, I've tried to prepare them as best I can.
NeoSpartan 4y ago
Sounds about right. In most cases I would have no real way of knowing their n count anyway, unless she lets something slip, had that happen a month ago, ghosted her. Youngish guy here. I don't think the CC thing is quite as bad as many make it seem though. 15+ by age 23 is not that common and I used to party a lot when I was like 20. There is a subset of girls that are gigantic sluts though, for sure.
SheLarror1234 4y ago
I always thought cc meant credit card. It makes sense one you put it that way.
NeoSpartan 4y ago
Of the 6 diff girls I've gone on first dates with since I started back up again, every single one except for the 20? I think y/o has offered to or insisted upon splitting the bill. This is why I am not AWALT. Dunno what you AWALT guys are doing that makes you think that way, but it has not been my experience. I think it's most likely a difference in our styles of approach and intentions towards dating, but I can't say for certain because idk how you guys are doing it really. I post much more than I read.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
a woman shows true interest in you by doing things for you, including paying/offer to split bill.
Girls who don't show this immediately with me are removed. Weed out the girls looking for providers immediately
NeoSpartan 4y ago
Not having any car pics or other displays of wealth in your profile pre-screens for this I think. My friend who was in the army was dating a gold digger type for a bit. It was very pathetic imo, saw him spend like 200 bucks buying her makeup at the mall. Hopefully he got some later at least. She also seemed very boring to me, but I only hung out with them the one time. Strongly agree with this, dates are expensive enough already.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
yes, and if the girl doesn't have money, she can show it in other ways and even with should. Like cooking for you, cleaning ,etc.
Weed out those (gold digger/entitled) ones immediately. You can plate them, and don't spend money on them.
An LTR has to show physical attraction and will do things for you right at the start.