Disclaimer: Yes, I am retarded. I'm 19 in an LTR for 3 years with a reformed slut who's about to be 21. I am on my mission, have a really good physique, and the only reason I wrote this post is because I want to break up with her if she is an Alpha Widow, not because I am scared to lose her.
TLDR - LTR brought up a previous fling a few times early on, and once said she had fond memories of him 6 months into us dating(this happened 2.5 years ago), then immediately took back the comment when I responded by saying I’m done with her, and never mentioned him again. Has been pretty good to me otherwise for 3 years and doesn't really treat me like an alpha widow. Even if she was an alpha widow she never cheated on me or contacted him so maybe it doesn't matter. So is she an alpha widow or was it just a shit test?
Made some mistakes in the beginning since I was inexperienced and didn't fully understand RP, like committing before getting sexual and waiting too long for sex. She's supposedly kind of inexperienced.
I'm 99% sure she's been loyal, both initiate,does whatever I want sexually, besides another girl (working on that one lol), cooks/cleans, respects/supports me, calls me hot/sexy/handsome/cute, says I am the most attractive guy she's ever been with, always says she's in love and I'm her soulmate, says she wants to have my children, no guy friends,no slut friends, no parties or clubbing, very occasional drinking and smoking weed around me or family and never gets trashed,is scared to lose me,gives me all Alpha Tells. I'd say we're pretty looks matched, most guys rate her between a 7-10, I say she's like a 7.5.
I've been thinking back and realized I may have missed something though. The story is hers, she could be lying, it's stayed consistent when I asked her about it so let's just assume it's true for discussion.
Basically when she was 15 she met a guitarist on a cruise who was about 30(daddy issues) . They stayed in contact on text and email, they would talk a lot and she said she mainly thought of him as a friend and someone to talk to. She said the first time they hung out they madeout, the second time which was about a year later they hung out again they madeout and he sucked her boobs and she said she may have rubbed his pants. She says she's the one who broke it off with him over text, and remembers feeling disgusted by the whole thing.
She said she once made a joke or asked him about having sex with her when they hung out, and she said she once texted him a message implying she would bring a friend for him to have a FFM threesome(saw him as high SMV?) . She says she never had any intention of actually doing either, nor did she ever set up a threesome or tell the friend about him, she says she just said crazy things to get a reaction because she was immature (a slut) back then. She never offered me a FFM, so that makes me think she was more attracted to him maybe? Idk. Or maybe she was just stringing him along as an orbiter with promises of wild sex. Who knows.
Anyways, a long time before I seriously talked to her, she showed me his YT channel in a class we had together. I think she may have showed me again very early on into when we started talking for real, which was many months later, not sure if I had even kissed her yet. She said she only showed me those videos to try and relate to me, I play guitar as well.(so relatable to show me someone who sucked your boobs right, fucking women bro). After we were together, I think she mentioned him once, maybe twice. Once earlier on, maybe a week or two in, and once after we had gotten sexual, maybe 3 months in, not sure if the second one even happened or if I'm just remembering wrong, let's just say worst case scenario it did. Both times it was when I asked her who showed her certain music, she would say "this guy I met on a cruise." It seems like he was on her mind to an extent.
About 6 months in I think, at this point we were having sex everyday , had said ILY, and she had bought me things. We were on the phone and talking about our pasts. The topic moved to him, and she said "I could tell by the way he was looking at me he liked me" she also said she had "fond memories of that time/him". I lowered his SMV in her eyes by saying "what kind of 30 year old needs to prey on a 15 year old" and asked her if she still has "fond memories" and she said yes, so I hung up and said we're done and to go be with him.
After I hung up we text and I think I said I don't really want to be done but need an explanation and she texts she didn't mean that and wants to explain. She called again and explains she didn't know wtf she is saying and used the wrong choice of words and doesn't have fond memories, she said something along the lines of she just meant they ended on good terms, and in her words didn't say "fuck you bye" and said that back then she thought of him as a friend and someone to talk to (orbiter?), but she is obviously disgusted and sees him as a predator now and only wants me. She says she already knew it was gross but realized even more how bad the whole thing was when she met me. I'm pretty sure I never heard about him again after that, and she said she was never thinking of him while with me and she never checked his socials or contacted him while with me, which I think I believe.
So I kind of just forgot about this whole thing since she treats me pretty good, but now thinking back I realized she may be an alpha widow, but some of the things also sound like he was more an orbiter to her than anything. Her behavior has mostly shown she is completely into me though, and if her story is true I've gotten way more from her than this dude did, besides the FFM text, so maybe it really was just the wrong choice of words or something when she said she had fond memories. She's been loyal and never really given me an issue besides this so am I just overthinking the situation? Was it just shit tests when she brought him up? Or something deeper? I just feel like she wanted to lock him down and never could because of the age gap and him being a traveling musician, and she was more attracted to him than me, but at the same time she is the one who ended things with him and treats me pretty good so maybe not. Thanks, I know that was long af.

whytehorse2021 4y ago
War bride. https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/03/war-brides/
viperrang 4y ago
So what does this mean for my situation? I'm confused on how exactly to apply this
whytehorse2021 4y ago
She sounds like a war bride.
Evolution has largely selected-for human females with a capacity to form psychological schemas that preserve an ego-investment that would otherwise afflict them with debilitating anxiety, guilt, and the stresses that result from being continuously, consciously aware of their own behavioral incongruities. Evolution selects-for solipsistic women who are blissfully unaware of their solipsism.
So basically she's damaged goods. Sort of like an alpha widow. Once that part of the brain activates in a woman men can detect it instinctively as inconsistencies in her psychological schema. I suppose you could insert yourself there by fucking her like you're 30 and she's 15. By the way, it's legal to fuck a 15yr old in international waters depending where the ship's home country is. I wouldn't be surprised if she forgot certain details like he had his penis inside her all night every night for 2 weeks on the cruise. I guess you can let it eat at you or you can let it go. My wife did something similar and I just chalk it up as the guy is an idiot to dump her and I got her instead.
blarfnarg 4y ago
Well I don't wand damaged goods so maybe I should leave her
I thought she might be lying but I'm 99% she's telling the truth cus of how she reacted when I said she was lying lmao
How can she be damaged goods but treat me so good? This was 2.5 years ago that she said that and the fact she stopped mentioning him makes me think it was just a test. Or someone else said she just liked the attention, which Def makes sense
whytehorse2021 4y ago
It's just something you need to resolve mentally before moving forward. My wife's story hasn't changed in 16 years. She was getting banged by a dude for a month and living in his hotel room. She got ran through at least 30 times and filled with cum. Unsurprisingly, that's a very low body count and sex count compared to most women. It is what it is. She has made a great wife and mother anyway. I just told her she needs to tell me what he did so I can do it better and replace her memories. We'll see if she comes clean but so far she's done way more with me but has a mental block to orgasm sometimes so I told her we need to get to the bottom of that and she should think about it.
hannulv 4y ago
She's not an alpha widow. He was was probably just an orbiter, but she is hung up on memories of him because guys over 25 are just hotter than younger guys. She misses the attention, but I woudn't worry about it.
Alpha widows are the ones with demanding, controlling exes that fucked the shit out of them.
Policing her feelz are not going to get you anything except distance and lies. She can't help the feelings she has. If you want to act insecure, it will just lower your value.
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viperrang 4y ago
True I didn't think of that.
OK good I'm glad she's not an alpha widow
She expressed regret for her past both before and after, and if her story is true she regretted anyway seeing as she was dry for awhile before me.
As long as I passed the shit test I'm good right, remember it was 2.5 years ago she said that, and never mentioned him again to the best of my knowledge.
I demonstrated I'm not afraid to lose her
hannulv 4y ago
You are cruising for disappointment if you think you're going to lock this girl down and have a happy life. You are only as good as your next moment. When a girl is is a relationship she will forget all the bad and remember only good, or forget all the good and remember only bad completely based on her feelz in any given moment. When you are exclusive with a girl you on are on trial 24x7, sick, tired, sad, injured, it doesn't matter. You either become someone who IS the things that attract girls, or the show must go on and you dance on a stage every moment for the rest of your life, trying not to break character.
viperrang 4y ago
Oh I'm not planning on locking her down for life. But if she's an alpha widow I want to leave immediately.
I know how to pass her tests, this one incident tho I was wondering if it was indication of a deeper issue(alpha widowed) or just another test.
It bothers me she was looking back positively on a fling for the first 6 months but oh well as long as her actions were loyal I guess it doesn't matter that much. And I never heard shit about him again and she always tells me she didn't mean it so who knows. I wonder if I responded a different way would she have kept talking about him.
She hasn't given me any other problem besides that one in the past 2.5 years so I guess I'll just try to forget about it. What do you think? Thanks for the reply.
hannulv 4y ago
You're 19, as you get older you realize that history and notch counts don't matter for the most part. All that matters is who she is now. In general, you should be looking to spin plates and not get exclusive. I would wait until 30-35 before you get serious about a girl.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
You are 19, go slay the world
Girls lie about their past, trust me this one is holding back a lot. Older guy, traveling musician. cmon. Is she alpha widowed, not at all based on how she treats you.
They have fond memories of their past guys and sex. Deal with it, don't bring up the past if you can't deal with it. She probably thinks of him more and thinks less of you everytime you lose frame. Keep it up and she'll branch swing.
remember first point, you are 19, go slay the world
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viperrang 4y ago
I am, but I also like this girl alot.
Yes I'm aware, as long as she's not alpha widowed it's fine.
She's said many times before and after that she wishes I was her first everything, soo whatever man. I guess if her behavior is good and she's not an alpha widow I can forget that comment. Remember it was 2.5 years ago she said that
PaidThaCost 4y ago
Don't know why she can't be a little alpha widowed and still treat you nice. The key is if he comes back now will she cheat/leave you? There is no way you will know unless he comes back. If she has fond memories of the time, she didn''t think it was bad, you are just shaming her into feeling bad about it. But, she was very young and just learning. Judge her from her behavior in the 3 years she has been with you, if no red flags you are good.
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viperrang 4y ago
Nah she wouldn't lol ik for sure, plus based on her story she broke it off with him
Yeah that's what I hate is that she didn't regret it, although she has said a multitude of times both before and after this that she wishes I'm the only guy she ever even made eye contact with, but at the same time I think she was testing me cus she stopped bringing him up at all after that.
OK thanks, you don't think she was more into him because of that FFM text? She said she just sent something crazy to get a reaction
redhawkes 2 4y ago
Bahahahaa
You're the same retard from couple days ago writing novels about your oneitis. The new username can't hide the fact that you're a beta cuck who think he has a magic dick to make a ho a housewife.
blarfnarg 4y ago
Loll yes thats me. I just make usernames so it's harder to doxx me.