Thinking of trying what is in the text box at the bottom. I was trying to use the yes ladder method, which was recommended to me, but she is giving me wishy washy answers.
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whytehorse2021 2y ago
I'm surprised nobody caught this. It's a shit test. She's being vague. The next message you should show alpha by being decisive. "OK great, me too, let's go out tomorrow and meet for coffee and see how things go from there. Starbucks on Penis lane at 8, ok?"
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whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yeah I've learned to expect a shit test within the first few sentences out of modern women. They're very annoying and unpleasant people.
master-of-losers 2y ago
I have a hard friend that loves going in and out.
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unplugged69 2y ago
Look how much you wrote compared to her, you're investing more and it shows you are needy. Adhere to the 2/3 golden ratio, get her number and get off that shitty app as soon as possible! The only way to build attraction is to meet in person, anything else is basically a waste of time
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unplugged69 2y ago
The problem is that most women online are just looking for validation and like to string you along unless you are literally brad Pitt.
Thats why the best choice is actually night game and day game, with a TINY bit of OLD on the side which might get you a few dates.
Right now OLD had gotten worse due to covid, every 4/10 roastie believes she's 10/10. Don't let it get to you and spend more time cold approaching and making friend IRL. Social proof is massively important when gaming chicks.
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unplugged69 2y ago
I would say for me about 20% flake IRL for various bullshit reasons, this seems to have gone up during covid.
Online at least 50%, or more flake so the difference is significant. The other problem with online is that they use flattering pictures, at least when you cold approach you see exactly what she looks like and it's easier to build rapport in person because she's only talking to you. There aren't 15 other chads vying for her attention.
The only issue is cold approach takes some skill so you need to keep at it and improve, once you get over that shitty leading curve though, your WHOLE game will improve. You'll have more friends, more social proof, be better on dates, etc. Just don't give up, and do tinder and shit on the side in case you catch one or two good ones there.
The thing is if you cold approach all year and manage to plate 2 of them, and maybe get another plate from tinder, next time you approach you won't care about rejection because you're going to fuck later tonight anyway. Bitches can smell abundance on you and will react better.
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unplugged69 2y ago
Good luck dude, this is one area of game that's hard to learn by reading, experience is the only teacher. Try to have goals that are outcome independent. Instead of saying "I want 2 dates or 2 K-close this week" just say "my goal is to approach 10 women this week". The goal is to approach and be relaxed, flirt, don't take it too seriously. If anything ELSE happens then it's a bonus. Use that mentality and after 6 months of cold approaching you will notice some SERIOUS results and you'll be looking for reasons not to plate them because you're filtering for quality since you now have too much quantity.
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Jester 2y ago
she's not interest, just using you for attention/validation. also you are investing too much with your answers. I've found with online dating she's one of three things 1. a hell no (she swipped left) 2. a attention whore (will match but just use you for validation) 3. a hell yes )she wants to meet you based on your pictures)
so you need to A. weed out the attention whores and B. not fuck up with the 'hell yes' girls. do this by NOT trying to be fancy, witty, etc... just show her your a normal, socially calibrated dude. maybe compliment something you noticed about her, then ask her a question. go back and forth 2-3 times, then ask her if she is interested in grabbing drinks. all said and done you shouldn't spend more than around 10 total messages between you two before you've asked her to hang out. this simultaneously lessens the time/effort the attention whores will be able to suck out of you, because when you ask them to hang, if it's anything but compliance on her end, you know she's not into you and just using you for validion so you next her