I considered myself a Redpill guy, but I recently had an experience with a chick where I got played like a fiddle. I only went on 2 dates with that chick before hard nexting her. Did not spend much money, but I feel ashamed and I have a really hard time forgiving myself.
Long story short, I met this super shy chick cold approach. Went on a first date and she gave me the cheek. Played the "I'm a good girl". I thought I had found my "unicorn".
Went on a second date and she straight up manipulated me with bullshit like "I want to take it slow" "You're special" and all that garbage. Was not receptive to my kino, but was happy to string me along.
After the second date, I came back to my sense and hard nexted the bitch.
3 weeks after that shit, I'm still angry at myself for being such a beta. I should have hard next that chick after the first date.
How do you guys forgive yourself when you slip? This experience has really fucked me up.
Thank you,

Sir_Chad_Slayathot 4y ago
You went on a Date and a women would never go out on a Date when she wouldn't have enough attraction towards you. You either did something wrong in Person, turned her off with your behavior or else. Ask yourself did you keep things lighthearted and fun? Did she laugh a lot? Did you talk more then she did? Did you avoid serious topics?
Besides that dude, you also failed the shit test by kissing her on the cheek, that would be one indicator that showed her you are a Beta Male. Never kisses on her cheek when you are on a Date. Next time don't go for it. Either kiss on her mouth or no at all.
Kiss on cheek= validation for her
kiss on mouth= validation for you and her
I would recommend you to keep going on a date with her and experiment lil bit to find a way to increase attraction. It would also help you with other girls
ScubaSteve9000 4y ago
Fuck that. Women do go on date when they are not attracted sexually to the guy. Plenty of bored losers women out there with nothing else to do but get validation from men to get free drinks. Also I did not kiss on the cheek, I went for the lips and she gave me the cheek. I dropped that bitch 4 weeks ago. She was just a time waster.
Sir_Chad_Slayathot 4y ago
No. They won't go on a Date when there is no minimal attraction. Believe me here, I know that experimented a lot. You either failed a shit test or don't fit in any other criteria to let you seduce her. Try preselection with another hot girl while you hangout with her, social proof etc. , because something is missing to raise the attraction level, otherwise she won't let you seduce her. She gave you basically some chances
those guys giving free drinks do much wrong, but when they know what to do things will change, figure out what it is just experiment
YourOwnDisaster 4y ago
You can consider yourself a toaster for all anyone cares, it's what you do without having to boast about it that makes you who you are.
That being said, you caught yourself before slipping too far into her bullshit so kudos for you. It's only from experience that you'll catch it sooner next time. You've been forgiven, my child.
ScubaSteve9000 4y ago
Thanks man.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Do not fall for this again.
"No sex with you" does NOT mean "unicorn".
Neither does it mean virgin or innocent.
Often is means either "not very attracted" or "got you pegged as a beta/provider".
Beta/provider behaviour includes: paying, COMMITTING TO MORE DATES, deferring to her, listening to her emotional shit.
And that behaviour triggers her "make him wait" strategy, with the objective of you investing in her and thinking she's a unicorn.
She isn't.
We told you AWALT. You know AWALT. You didn't listen. Lesson learned.
Ahhhhhhhh come on.
Two dates, no time lost, you're not paying alimony for the next 25 years nor child support nor have a crazy woman at work who hates you.
You got off super light. They're all a risk, it takes a lot of time to find the good ones, it's all a journey.
Look, this is no biggie..... learn your lesson, promise you won't fall for that shit again, and move on. As life lessons go, this one was CHEAP.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself, go out and feel some women instead.
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mattyanon Admin 4y ago
It wasn't "let's wait till date 3", it was "here's my cheek" and "I want to take it slow".
Why would she want to take it slow?
If she's attracted, she should want to take it fast.
"I want to take it slow" mean "I want to exploit you".
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ScubaSteve9000 4y ago
Exactly this. She actually told me that she takes it slow when it comes to dating. She was super shy dude, like super shy. The thing is, I can't trust these bitches. My redpill radar went off big time after the second date. I was like "yo this chick is not into me and I'm being played". ESPECIALLY because she was not receptive to my kinos. My last text before blocking her ass was "looks like you're not interested, good luck" and she fucking responded by saying "I don't know how you came to that conclusion". She's ether dumb as a rock or try to play me.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Right.
But when it comes to fucking, I'm sure she's a lot less slow.
She's totally fine to take it slow. Let some other loser put up with that shit.
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ScubaSteve9000 4y ago
My Red pill radar went off after the second date when she started pulling away. I'm hard on myself, but it's an ego thing. Like the bitch was not attracted to me and she did not want to fuck me, so I'm taking it personal. Like who gives a fuck about what a dumb hoe thinks of me.
I will never let that shit happen again.
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whytehorse2021 4y ago
You don't catch a unicorn in a day. You catch a disease from a hoe in a day. Know who you're dealing with BEFORE you expend effort. I doubt my wife would sleep with a guy on the first date. In fact she got pissed off when a guy kissed her on the first date and rejected him. She was my best friend before we slept together. She was easy but we had already established that we wanted to be married and have kids so it was normal to try to reproduce.
She said she's a good girl so put her to the test. Vet her for marriage. See if she meets your standards to be your wife. No point in having sex because this is a compatibility check. If she's a hoe pretending to be a good girl then move on. If she's actually a good girl keep courting her and establish a relationship. 2 years minimum to establish if a woman is genuine real deal unicorn. Don't waste time on fake unicorns or broken women.