Hi all I know I'm gonna get bashed with this question, but it is a legit one. I'm in my late thirties, so at this age there are many women in their early 30s that consider me as a potential beta provider, because I could clearly be one. I'm a solid sixes guy, but wouldn't call me a true alpha yet (working on it). I've admittedly been a beta until my wake-up event 2 years ago. So yes, I admit it. I'm not a natural and this has been a hard journey. But I'm getting there. (Thanks RedPill community, you've changed my life and shown me the truth).
Sometimes I ask myself which of these two approaches to getting many women is best:
- Try to play out this "i could be the beta provider that you want", but more like the "alpha that wants to settle down" and that shit. Women do believe that (I've heard that from them quite a few times from their mouth). Of course they don't get that is a contradiction. But I could fit this idea pretty well in their minds. Then fuck & dump. I know it takes longer than for the true alpha, because women just want to have his genes NOW. But I also enjoy that playing around and seducing in the old ways, the dine and wine thing. I know, I know, bring it on, you are gonna destroy me for this comment. But I know I could be successful with this sneaky approach, and I see men that are. Especially since I live in Eastern Europe and I can see how women here want to take their time (and have lower body counts on average).
- Just shut up and go ahead with the real alpha mindset. To become attractive enough that they will just break the rule (ie make rules for betas, break them for alphas). This will take more effort on my side: I need to improve my social game because I work many hours (at home) and I just moved to a new location. So I don't have the status and social interactions for this to work out in full steam. This is challenging. I plan on maxing out my online profile setup, get really good photos, etc. But this is the slower and harder path, and definitely will take a while to get results this way. I'm not there yet.
Please bring your wisdom and harsh truths. I could use some guidance.
I would also appreciate any input from someone who has found himself in a similar situation: working alone in a new city...
Cheers
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
this is not the way.
1st, no wine and dine, pretend to be provider/beta
2nd , it should not be viewed as a pretend/mislead,etc. You either work from a red pill mindset or don't. You aren't with this mindset. It's not pretend, it's not faking it. Girls can smell you faking it.
You moved to a new place, focus on building a network, guys. That's more important. The girls will come, don't worry about it. When you DNGAF and build yourself into a HVM, they will come. Your brothers can introduce you to their girls,etc and socialize with them and you will have opportunity to meet girls. Trust me, I've had so many guys I'm with have their girlfriends say, I want you to meet my friend, you are sooo her type.
Focus on you, not them.
ulysseschaos 4y ago
For sure that's the way with future, building a real mindset. But I can see myself going sexless for a few months if I just focus on that. And the lockdown hasn't been particularly prolific where I've been. But yeah, I agree, that is the way. To clarify, I didn't mean "faking the alpha mindset". Having a true alpha mindset is the first and most important thing in my opinion. I mean faking the "alpha that settles down" (aka beta, most would argue).
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
faking the alpha mindset, (alpha that settles down).
most girls will ask you very soon, first date sometimes, are you looking for a LTR , marriage,etc.
I can't speak for anyone else. Me, I'm honest. Marriage = NFW
LTR, sure, I'd like a LTR, problem is I can't find a girl who's worth it. Are you the one? I'm actually not lying to her or to me. I'm older, so ever revolving plates and such is different for me, not my goal. That's My view of course. others on here will argue that it should be all men's goal, no matter age. It's ok to disagree on this.
ulysseschaos 4y ago
Right. TBH I don't think I can sustainably do the non-honest route without feeling like a lesser man. But I see the path towards honesty + chicks a hard one, with long sexless months until I "get it" (the price to pay for a higher risk/higher reward strategy).
I'm much better off than when I started my journey 2 years go, but the pandemic has been a year of only working on my purpose and body, not game. And I need better game. For better game, I need more socializing. Which is hard because I'm busy working on my purpose, but it must be done.
Thanks again for your solid input.
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can163 4y ago
There is no absolute Alpha. You either have good Alpha/ bad Alpha with a mixture of good Beta and bad Beta Traits. As the other guy said, apply the knowledge from redpill, don't pretend, don't even think about your question
ulysseschaos 4y ago
Good point
Doubleaxe90 4y ago
I prefer high risk high reward alpha mode because i want to stay true to myself and not appear beta to fuck some 30+ year old post wall woman with baby rabies after she had half of town. The game i play works best for under 25 year old women.
But that's me, it's your life, you set your rules.
ulysseschaos 4y ago
You are definitely playing the better game. I'll get there. I just have no idea yet. How can I meet -25 yo chicks. Online? Maybe. Social circle? No, I don't think so, unless I become a model photographer, or do some other strategic activity. Thanks for your input.
Doubleaxe90 4y ago
"Which is hard because I'm busy working on my purpose, but it must be done."
This, find a healthy balance, you have the sixes, see what works for you. Try online, make friends so you have a social circle, and approaching.
ulysseschaos 4y ago
Thanks for the reminder. It's true and I needed it.