I need wisdom. I’m only 27, so I don’t know jack shit. Cutting straight to it, here are the facts:
I met this girl in law school, let’s call her Morgan: she is an 8/10, we got along great, she was actually funny, low body count (2 including me), she’s 24, published in an academic journal, has no debt (full ride). All in all, perfect LTR.
Here’s some background on me: 6ft (for real), 165lbs, ~12-15% body fat, can rep 225 on bench for a set of 8-10, rep 80lbs on dumbbell shoulder press, (I’ve been lifting and dieting for 10 years and entertained body building), I’ve been told by girls I’m between and 8-10 in looks (most of them also said the average guy is a 2), graduated law school, zero debt (blessed by god with rich parents).
Things were great. We had a relationship for 6 months (we said we were talking). I graduated. She’s got another year but she got a job with a prestigious law firm in a city that I have no connections with 6.5 hours away. She’s making 190,000 starting once she graduates. I’ll be lucky to make 75 - 90 starting.
The other day, I fucked bad and screwed around with her slutty friend - the only time in my I’ve done shit like that. I was shit housed drunk. Although Morgan and I were only talking, she would be pissed. The slutty friend said she wouldn’t say anything ever and feels bad too.
Because our relationship would move to an LTR for god knows how long (she’d be in school for another year and I’d have to find a job in her city), and she might leave if she found out I fucked up, I ended things and feel like dog shit.
Was this the right move? Or any thoughts in general
FinancialThanks1 4y ago
It would be a bad move to move to a city for a girl you’ve been dating for 6 months
VanillaIce-is-fire 4y ago
You’re obviously right. Thanks. My thoughts are all over the place, and I’m looking for sound, impartial thoughts on my situation like this.
SignificantJicama664 4y ago
How come the length of time is always more important than the qaulity of it
I_Dont_Type 4y ago
If you’re not with her long you may not know her crazy side. After a year or two the crazy side shows, you get to know the real person not the act they’re putting up.
SignificantJicama664 4y ago
You may be right I haven't been there
PlayBoiPaco 4y ago
her friend is going to tell her you guys fooled around, women talk. don’t get your hopes up high, and don’t put her on a pedestal aka by moving to her city. think of how many people are in said city.
Dirty-anal-weebo 4y ago
You are smart to end it. Look around the old trp Reddit there’s horror stories left and right of guys who made the choice to uproot their own lives for a woman.
I’m 24 and don’t know jack shit either but I’ve had 2 choices to do the same thing you’ve done and both times I’ve chosen myself and to stay here.
Do I regret it, yes not because I would’ve ended up with the girls and got married but because I’m in the same place I’ve grown up in. Not experiencing something new and there’s always the what if’s.
But that’s why this sub is here to help idiots understand that we can’t just follow and jump haphazardly into a life altering decision for a woman.
MrSelfDestructXX 4y ago
I took the opposite plunge, after being in a rut and getting stuck in a small beach town, I met a broken but beautiful girl that had all the red flags. All of them.
Said fuck it and moved in with her, in a big city (generally where I wanted to end up before I met her). I knew it was bad, it wouldn’t last and could end in a bad way, said fuck it let’s ride this till the wheels fall off.
Long story short, we moved in and things were predictably all over the place. She moved out and I was able to keep the apartment and had a steady job. She moved away and haven’t heard from her since. I was free from her and my previous situation.
The moral of my story is, sometimes you have to live a bit and say fuck it, ride that bronco till she kicks you clear. I knew full well what I was doing and had been red pilled for a good while though - I was confident and could back my shit up. Also she tried to kill us both in a drunken rage at one point, but that wasn’t my first rodeo.
Dirty-anal-weebo 4y ago
I mean this isn’t typically how it goes so I would consider you an outlier.
It the very least if you insist on complicating your own life OP get your own apartment. Make your own friends build your own life but date her.
Just don’t fall victim to the ideological trappings that come with doing something like this..
MrSelfDestructXX 4y ago
Definitely not a safe bet and I’d recommend against it for all but the most bleak of situations.
My point being was sometimes you can take risks against the grain and come out better from the experience. I had lived a red pill life before there was community (was in dc lair by ‘03) and knew about true female nature. It was still a rough go.
Dirty-anal-weebo 4y ago
Not trying to take away from your own experience just offering a harm reductionist approach.
I could never say to do or not do something prescriptions from a 24 year old retard aren’t worth the toilette paper they’re written on.
But I’ve seen a few come out relatively unscathed, and that’s what they did/was their advice.
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TheRedPillRipper 4y ago
You made a mistake. It’s human. Acknowledge the mistake, learn from it and let it go.
You know enough to ask for help. That’s solid. Nexting her is easy but what do YOU want? You’re still in the driver’s seat. If you pursue this relationship what’s the worst that can happen? It ends? If you make that choice you can either be upfront about what happened; or trust her friend. Both have risks to weigh.
Moving to her city too isn’t a bad idea. IF however, you prioritise your own place, career and lifestyle first. Then let her join you there. It’s all in how you Frame it.
Godspeed and good luck!
MigosXdd 4y ago
Just read this wise comment here on TRP – if her friend’s a slut, there is great chance she’s going to be one too.
blast4310 4y ago
Ending it is the right move.
There are more plates out there.
Spirited-Foot 4y ago
You need abundance.
MoistObligation9999 4y ago
Yes & I'm suprised only you have said it..
mr4kino 4y ago
Your body and muscles are nice. Well done, but Morgan will get attracted to the high level partners and such making 1M+ per year, high status etc.
Leave her and target those positions. You have a good mindset.
TeddyMGTOW 4y ago
When guys move long distance to new city the guy always gets fucked. As far as screwing her slutty friend more power to yeah..they have been doing it for years. I would go back for a second tap..ballz deep!
Intrepid_Artist 4y ago
Leave a girl.
You can't control situation. She starts working in industry full of wolfs (well established connected rich lawyers). Is just question of time when she becomes corrupted and start fucking seniors.
Stay in touch, for network and good sex. Don't expect more. LTR simple non lawyer girl
VanillaIce-is-fire 4y ago
That’s a good point. I appreciate It. I mentioned my info so you guys can gauge my SMV to see if it could be high enough to keep things together, but you’re right - she’s going to be around other high SMV men. I wouldn’t even have the chance to compete to maintain or build attraction if we were long distance. Even if I moved, girls still have a propensity to mistake something new and exciting as per se better. It would be a constant battle for sure just to keep things from falling apart.
JohnnyD723 4y ago
I am not worried about the slut friend. what concerns me is that Morgan's SMV is going to skyrocket in the future.
This is huge that you recognize this and have solid understanding of the SMV chart. There are some potential problems that can be maintained as long as you have a strong inner frame and outer frame. it is also huge that you recognize that it could be a battle to keep things from falling apart.
if you proceed with this scenario, you need to establish your exit plan now and meditate on it so that if scenario a b or c happens, you have studied the options now ... while your disposition is calm and rational .... not in the future when your under duress and and a barrage of shit test.
you have only LTR'rd her for a short time, this is concerning. Has she laid out a map of her dreams and aspirations? this is a big deal because did she tell you the truth ? ... or, if she did, you know that it could all change course in a split second ... girls can be like that.
how are you going to handle things later on when she becomes bossy and bitchy because her SMV is so high?
I'm 59 years old, I have seen the high SMV girls scenario through the years ... the rules of TRP are solid and do not change. Please consider some type of exit plan today while you are calm, rational and sober to have in your back pocket for later.
You would not go to war in Iraq without proper planning and studying the opposition, this is similar.
good luck, stay sober and plan some options.
WAATGM 4y ago
This! Sage advice. Well put ✅
Additionally, if she's moving to the city to work in law, it's only a matter of time before she turns into a 304 like her friend...
Intrepid_Artist 4y ago
Yea too much of effort and uncertainty.
A job is third socialization and it does influence/change people. It's not only about your SMV, is also about her SMV.
Sometimes to keep a frame you need to make a step back and leave a girl.
Maybe after few years you two will rebound and she will be willing to make sacrifice for marriage.Like dropping career and raising kids. Smart - submissive women understands age is her enemy. If not, she wasn't worth of hassle anyway.
But keep in mind, with rich background and high SMV can easily marry young girl in your 40s, even 50s
Efficient_Film_149 4y ago
The real story is Morgan is a slut too. Her friend will never tell. It amazes me how naive men can be. In a situation like this a woman would fuck your friend, use you to leverage herself into the business world making way more money, then three ish years down the line fuck you boss and kick you out. It’s incredible how they do it instinctually and guys are on here asking “ohh noooo, but morgannn”
AlphaBetaSigmaDelta 4y ago
Next her
sicrm 4y ago
moving to a city you don’t know, with a girl you barely know, where she’ll be making more than you is not the move.