I’m a typical beta who was raised by a strict single mother. At one point, and before getting burnt and finding TRP, I decided to get out of my shell, start working out and build a social circle. I met one guy, let’s call him Andy. He was a 6’2 good looking white guy. He played high school football, if that matters.
After reading TRP, I started to recall things that Andy used to say about his relationship with his girlfriend. It was as though he was fully TRP aware. Examples:
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One time I was with him and his gf in an elevator. She wanted to go to level 1 instead of the parking level which is below it, which is what Andy had suggested. To my surprise, he yelled at her in front me asking her to hit the parking level. She looked frightened and complied.
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I asked him, who decided to move states you or your gf? He said of course me.
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Asked him if him and his gf split the rent equally, he said of course.
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I was hanging out with him and her one night out, and he kept giving her shit non stop, and it was a little too much. My bluepill self told him that he gives her too much shit, he replied with “it is my job”.
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He doesn’t cheat and he even asked me not to encourage him to do so when we are out on a boys night. However, he still chases or talks to women to maintain “game”, which is what he explicitly told me.
- He takes very good care of himself, appearance wise and mental health wise.
The guy is clearly redpilled. It is not that he is a “natural” since he explicitly said “it is my job”. My point is that it seems that around popular guy circles, redpill is common knowledge, except maybe it is not called TRP.
How do guys like this know about TRP? I’m pretty sure he doesn’t read Reddit nor he is a natural. Is it passed from his father or friends?

MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
1 > this is a bit fucked up. you shouldn't have to yell, and TRP doesn't tell men to yell at women
4 > again with the yelling/berating. not TRP
5 > sounds like the old PUA stuff. Can see his point.
6 > Good.
Not really.
The post has been popularised at some pretty high levels in the news (always critically). Every guy will know someone who knows of TRP.
tetrachromancy 5y ago
He learned it from someone else. Or just has options and a weak minded girl who is easy to push around and dominate.
At the same time, if you aren’t the dominant one in the relationship, the woman will try and take that role.
Usmc5523 5y ago
If you grew up just being a natural with women you don’t really have a need to find out what TRP even is as a young man because you already for whatever reason are naturally inclined to follow it’s advice. Most of us who are younger and are actually aware of the RP being a thing are here because we were terrible at attracting women, or if we could attract women we got taken advantage of and burnt by them all the time and didn’t know why. However usually these guys will “settle down” with some gold digger because they believe that they eventually have to because it’s what their family and society always tells them and this is where i believe many of them stumble across TRP once they have been burned in a marriage or something.
comcain 5y ago
Sounds like he had some characteristics of being redpilled.
It isn't on/off, it's a linear scale.
Cheers
MusicgoonV2 5y ago
No. Some popular guys have zero clue why they are popular.
When I was younger in highschool I was very popular, but I was a totally pussy when it came to making moves. They don't share a correlation.
NotSureEngineer 5y ago
Was #1 supposed to be "TRP approved"?
cornpoke 5y ago
What is with people here putting a height stat? especially when talking about other men and or describing them as good/bad looking lol? did you personally measure him? makes you look like you are homo rather than hetrosexual.
Malic1a 5y ago
Dudes in this sub are obsessed with height.
cornpoke 5y ago
Not sure why, can't be changed and they don't know anyone elses height, nor would it change anything if they could or did, so the whole thing is moot.
mwcmu452 5y ago
I see, yeah there was another comment on the thread that noticed my description of the guy sounded weird/homo. It seems I have some insecurity issues to work on, for example, you mentioned why I had to list his height. A lot of girls mentioned that I’m not tall enough, while I’m 5’10-5’11. They made it seem that being taller is very important in SMV.
heqeul 5y ago
Because it IS important in SMV - don’t let any one of these fools on here tell you otherwise lol P.S fuck those girls you are literally above average height anyway
cornpoke 5y ago
Well height for one has nothing to do with alpha or SMV, nor do looks but that's another thing too. Muscles don't even add to SMV in most cases.
Chilli_Con_Cancer 5y ago
Bruh, are you trolling?
cornpoke 5y ago
truthing.
Chilli_Con_Cancer 5y ago
How tf does this shit still circulate?! Bruh, I can guarantee you that men who are tall and/or have muscles have higher SMV than they would otherwise. If you believe otherwise you're coping and if you have been lifting for a while but noticed 'no change' in women's behaviour then you probably haven't been doing it properly.
cornpoke 5y ago
I see, people with a different opinion than you are 'coping' - ok thanks, I understand how you feel.
Chilli_Con_Cancer 5y ago
Opinion?! What is there to form a different opinion about, it's an empirically proven fact that height and muscularity improves SMV.
heqeul 5y ago
Just show him the countless statistics on height in dating dynamics man your words won’t change this retqrd
cornpoke 5y ago
Well, thanks for your opinion, we'll agree to disagree.
goneaway2thewind 5y ago
I think most guys get red pilled naturally without the framework found on the sub.
There are more covert phrases that obfuscate the truth like “No money, no honey” “she belongs to the streets” etc
Iturniton 5y ago
How is this Andy redpilled? Sounds like an obsessive asshole. TRP doesn't teach you to be an asshole. It's more of prioritising yourself mentally and physically. It's about dominating. Shouting at your LTR or harassing her IN FRONT OF COMPANY is just being an asshole.
I don't think he's redpilled though if that's what you're asking.
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He sounds like a dark triad
thegreyone3000 5y ago
Yeah I’m pretty sure that the dude has no clue about TRP. To be honest, like myself, I didn’t even know what Reddit was until recently.
I noticed this subtly throughout my life with other dudes, weather they were strangers or if I knew them. The hints were so small that my social retardedness couldn’t understand it. Or I was stuck in a blue pill dream… or more logically my own head, because that’s how I was.
But looking back, especially after being exposed to the red pill. I do definitely think some guys it is just a natural thing. They either pick it up instinctually or through watching others, like their dad or something.
Edit* I don’t think he reads books about it either, like I say. Like most dudes like your old friend. I personally think it was by trial and error throughout his life.
I was deep in thought about this one dude from high school I knew. Was a complete loser and chump. Then when we started year 10 he changed. Completely went alpha and started getting lots of female attention. Got into fights and beat kids up, would shout and flirt with girls all the time. Things he wouldn’t dare do before, and it worked lol. I didn’t ask him because I didn’t understand at the time but I noticed he would do things like watch masculine movies a lot and hang out with other dudes who were more “on point” if you will as well as do more “cool guy” stuff.
Intrepid_Artist 5y ago
You wanna fuck him or what?
mwcmu452 5y ago
He is taken
Intrepid_Artist 5y ago
He is narcissus. My women shuts down when I give her that look.
No need to raise up my voice. Uncontrolled aggression is always weakness
mwcmu452 5y ago
Yeah I thought it was weird too especially that he did it in front me and I didn’t know them too well. It was a bit awkward.
Efficient_Film_149 5y ago
It’s actually quite the opposite. You’ll find 90% who talk about TRP have been losers their entire lives, and are finally starting to string together some fucks/ successful shit. Every man I’ve ever met who is an absolute killer was born that way, or developed into that by natural desires. For example, friend Steve, 6’3, about a split second away from being completely retarded, great athlete, the emperor of pussy. The man traded in his entire brain besides what operates his dick at birth.
OttoVonBismark71 5y ago
Dumb guys are some of the most successful at women. They don't think about it they just do.
QTED95 5y ago
Not at all, most “popular” guys are much more unlikely to know TRP because they don’t spend as much time online; and that time is normally spent on stuff like Instagram rather than Reddit and forums where you might come across TRP.
However, they have many TRP traits naturally which is why they’re popular.
thegreyone3000 5y ago
Which goes to show there is no substitute for real world practice. A lot of those dudes start young, see success and continue to do it. After a while they become “that dude”
DS_1900 5y ago
That dude?
nishant_lannister 5y ago
He means the dude who is revered in guy-circles and gal-circles alike.
thegreyone3000 5y ago
Yes
TheStumblingWolf 5y ago
I think these things are largely governed by supply and demand. Popular guys have a high supply of women and react naturally to it. I bet most of these find a woman later on, settle down and become average blobs and have no idea why.
nishant_lannister 5y ago
I know man. I also know a guy and here is his story.
I know a guy who is clearly a natural. Many months before I discovered Jordan Peterson, Rollo Tomassi and Jack Donovan, I one evening had a nice conversation with this guy. Let us call him Salman. He was 26 and had been screwing this hottie from another town who lived in our society.
He told me a few things which are clearly Red Pill wisdom, though he was not so articulate. When I told him that I liked a girl, but she was not responding favorably he told me a few straight points.
“Bro, you have to stop calling her. You have already taken her on so many outings and spent money. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you doling out treats to her when she will not even call you? She is clearly seeing another guy, while you sit here like a puppy. Understand a few things. Don’t call her for a week. If she misses you, she will call you. You stay aloof. There are many girls. And she is not even a 7/10. You will get another girl like her, easy. And why the fuck do you smile so much? A woman wants a man, not a crushing boy. Next time we all are together, do not even talk to her. You do not need her man. She needs you.” And then he told me to start talking to other women also but never ever bring up the relationship question. That’s the job of the women- to ask for it, he said.
He never reads a book. He never even completed college yet bangs every other new girl in the society. He told me he has banged 12 women. Such a natural!
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i-am-the-prize 5y ago
"he yelled at her" was he on Tren?
there are boys/men who naturally put themselves first. and those with looks+charisma combo to do well in the first 2-3 decades of their lives, especially in HS/Uni where proximity to abundant tail is default scenario.
But when out of school and club/bar/job dating starts, you find those who relied on their looks and cred in school to be the ones asking about "there's this one girl at work" b/c they only talk to women who the "have a reason to talk to" because they're not actually naturals in the approach part of Game.
He sounds a bit insecure needing to neg her in front of a friend and the yelling. Maybe he knew her well and that was her kryptonite but sounds weak; maybe he was just sick of her b/c they were living together.
What he did right was: take care of himself, always game/flirt/talk with women, splitting rent.
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InevitableWasabi69 5y ago
I’ve been around dudes who just naturally understood TRP principles based on their own extensive experience with women.
bornprebridged24 5y ago
Yea I wonder who's redpilled myself the things a girl I was talking to told me about her bf I couldn't believe its prob natural behavior but I think nine times out of ten its just having confidence, strong father figure, good upbringing etc. then boldness, nonchalance and other desirable actions ensue making them popular
Apprehensive_Ad8171 5y ago
Not the answer you asked for buy I still wanted to comment:
He sounds like the type of guy who controls everything in the relationship, big or small. Frightening his significant other over an elevator floor? Wtf. He probably wanted to leave the building asap, idk. But it makes me wonder how he acts during real arguments. You also mentioned that on another occasion he gave her a lot of shit for (seemingly?) no/little reason (to a point where you thought it was too much) and then he implied it's his job!?? The hell. Is he a child? Does she feel safe around him? Is this a guy she respects? Poor girl
I'm writing this because it reminds me of my unstable ex. When he got mad he screamed, cried (LOUD) and punched walls/pillows while I tried to console him. Unpredictable moodswings. Admitted he often hurt my feelings on purpose because that made me "easier to control", among a lot of other fucked up shit. He always said he knew best. He literally beat pillows and punched walls so hard I was scared he was going to turn his hand on me. I'm sorry, but this is not the type of guy anyone should look up to.
I really hope she's safe...
Intrepid_Artist 5y ago
You ll be safe with me. Just pm
comcain 5y ago
Sigh, why don't you stay in FDS and slay, queen?