I hesitated before making a thread in this sub reddit since i did not feel like the topic entirely related to TRP. Posted it on /r/dating and haven't had a single reply in 15 hours.. I've started browsing TRP a month ago, and i must say, by far, favorite subreddit.
Alright, here you go. Hope you can help a brother out with any type of advice! The more quick, the better!
The amount of stress on my mind at the moment is unbearable and i really feel like posting this would help relieve some of it! (First post on reddit ever, so mercy please!)
Recently, i took some motivation from a friend and a particular subreddit, grew a pair, and asked a girl i had a crush on out last Tuesday. She's a solid 8. We agreed on a date for Sunday. This is the first time i have ever asked out a girl and the fact that she agreed on a date with me made me incredibly happy. She gave me her number, success!
Just to keep the long story a bit shorter, we both ended up texting each other day and night for the next few days before our date, and i could easily tell this girl really did have a thing for me by the way she texted. I was incredibly surprised and pleased, we flirted back and forth; i could no longer get this chick out of mind.
Come Sunday, the day of my very first date ever. I meet her at the entrance of the restaurant and give her a hug. We went to our seats i reserved for the day, ate food, but mostly talked about her, did a bit of kino, she laughed a lot, smiled a lot. I thought i was going in the right direction. Fast forward to the time she's about to leave. As we walk to the car, i told her i have feelings for her. She replied by saying she likes me but would like to go into the relationship slowly. I totally understand after hearing about her entire life story on our date. After that, i looked into her eyes, both smiled, and i just ended up hugging her....i fucked up big time, that was an opportunity for a kiss. Later that day, she tells me how much fun she had, but in my opinion, i feel like i could have done way better. I still can't stop thinking of the mistakes i've made that day, i had the opportunity to hook her in.
This week, i'm pretty busy with the amount of studying and homeworks due before finals. I also found out today that i didnt do to well on my previous ECN exam and so the stress keeps building up. Today, i made a joke over text and she took it the wrong way. She replied in an extremely bitchy way, and she hasn't been actively texting as usual. I apologize, and she still acts bitchy, i feel like i just threw away a chance with a girl i love. We eventually ended up agreeing to meet up tomorrow but there was no enthusiasm behind her agreeing to meet up like it usually showed in her texts. The stress and anxiety keeps building.
It's 1:26AM right now, and i can't sleep, i can't stop thinking about this girl i'm madly in love with. I really feel like i fucked up big time. i'm taking this harder than i actually should be.
i really need some advice on what to do on our next meetup. Should i just open up with a kiss? Apologize? And if all goes well, how am i supposed to follow up with other dates/meetups? How do i "hook"/"seal the deal" with this girl? How do i take it a step further? Or am i just over thinking it?
Talked to her today, and she seemed overly frustrated to talk to :(
TLDR: How do i "seal the deal"/"hook" a girl into me after a not so great first date?
EDIT: I find out later that the reason she was so frustrated was due to family issues.
EDIT 2: I'm really am amazed by the amount of advice given, really, thanks a lot! No matter what the criticism was, i took it, i really did mean it when i said any type of advice was welcome. I know that a lot of people are shouting ONEITIS or read the side bar of the red pill. I currently am reading the side bar but videos seem to help the most. I'm ready to go on the journey of being Alpha material, and if you guys could recommend any videos/or where to find "alpha" people in college and be around them, please feel free to comment!

Misteralcala 11y ago
You've made a mess by being in love with a girl you're crushing over. You've put all your hopes, dreams, happiness and wishes into this one chick, and you wonder why she's flaking on you? It's because you're putting all of that pressure onto her. She's young and pretty and wants to have fun. She would totally be willing to have fun, but you've put her on a pedestal. You expect things from her, and she's not liking the way you cling. She can have meaningless hookups with hot guys who won't pressure her into dating, and she was willing to extend the same opportunity to you, but you blew it.
You got oneitis. You made the woman your mission and your goal, instead of letting her be the fun opportunity that she could have been. You got too heavy on her and she bolted. You know that song from the 80s that makes you want to stab your ears - "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"? Well, that song holds true to the modern hot chick - they just want to have fun and keep things lite and casual. When they want to settle down, they will throw hints out to you - if you've worked on yourself and you have enough to offer them and keep them interested.
So here you are, sad, alone and wondering how you can patch things up with this perfect unicorn that has stolen your heart. Man up, dude. You let yourself get stupid over a girl and this is the price. We guys fall in love a lot easier than they do, so you have to keep your guard up and not give out more than you receive - or this happens. Do you like the way this feels? Do you want to feel like this over and over again? If you don't wise up and learn to play the game, this will be your fate. You're the prize. There are millions of pretty, fun girls out there who will give you a shot, but you can't blow it and go full tactical love nuke on them, or you will lose them too. Good luck. Pick yourself up, collect your nuts from her purse and move on.
RichieFinn 11y ago
On a side note, is it fucked up that i enjoy that song?
Misteralcala 11y ago
Nah. Let me get my keytar and I'll jam out with you.
ozthelion 11y ago
I don't want to believe it, but it seems like i have to. Really great advice! I don't know anything about 'playing the game'. How do you?
Ojisan1 11y ago
Start where everyone here starts:
Read the sidebar material. It's all there for free but you gotta put in the effort.
Misteralcala 11y ago
You learn how women operate and you formulate your strategy accordingly, so that you get what you want from relationships. Read the sidebar suggested materials on /r/TheRedPill for some insight.
ozthelion 11y ago
Is there any particular section/readings i must absolutely pay attention to in my case in your opinion?
Misteralcala 11y ago
Yes. Start at the top, continue through the middle and finish at the bottom.
The_Turbinator 11y ago
/r/seduction is a great place to start learning
You are doing great so far, taking chances and learning from your experiences, asking questions and not making assumptions. I see a great future ahead of you, as you get older and you learn from your experiences you are going to have a lot of fun my friend. A lot of fun indeed :)
seedang 11y ago
/r/seduction is a steaming pile of beta garbage these days.
Max_Jets 11y ago
I agree. Unfortunately I can't seem to find a good alternative at the moment, now that /r/trpgame has been discontinued and it seems like a lot of posts on the parent sub and on here are either fairly beginner inquiries or more oriented towards trp theory rather than PUA-intended game.
The_Turbinator 11y ago
I have to agree; but you can't dismiss the fact that it's still a goldmine of good information from it's hay days.
PlebDestroyer 11y ago
Never thought I'd see the day someone on TRP recommends that sub.
The_Turbinator 11y ago
It's still a goldmine of good information from before the invasion of the noobs.
cheechawcheechaw 11y ago
Your mistakes:
You were texting way too much. There is a reason why you have a mouth.
You told her your feelings first
You didn't kiss her (just a minor mistake, if she likes you she'll tolerate it)
You apologized for a joke
My advice for the meetup: Don't come across as you were sorry for something. You shouldn't be. And stop thinking that much about her. Get some hobbies.
rockmasterflex 11y ago
Every time I read shit like this I'm just so glad I'm not in college anymore, because I was this tool in college.
Don't be a tool bro. 1) Your first girl you ever asked out? theres a 100% chance she is not great for you long term 2) Follow the escalation ladder. You can find it on here. Referring to random shit as KINO and then not actually following the ladder properly will always fuck you up. 3) Whats done is done man. If you can't get a second date, don't fret it. Stop texting so much inbetween dates. TEXTING IS JUST FOR LOGISTICS and to SECURE the first date. You already had that.
Assaultman67 11y ago
Dude, no offense but there is like a 70% chance she's going to rip your heart out because she is just not that into you now.
After she does that you need to pick up the pieces and come back here.
People are attracted to independent and confident people, not needy and self-consious people.
So the only way I could see you getting another date from her is to back off for a while.
Edit: a good example is trying to pet a stray cat. You be in the area, have something appealing for it, and you have a chance that the cat will come to you. Chasing the cat around like a mad man never works. So back off a bit lennie.
A lot of the answers here are along the same lines and I understand it is not the answer you want to hear, but it is the answer you need to hear.
CDBaller 11y ago
Ok, you grew a pair, which was good, then you threw all that "nut up or shut up" away.
DON'T TELL WOMEN YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH THEM. IT ONLY LEADS TO BAD THINGS. WOMEN ARE SADISTIC. WOMEN ARE EVIL. IF YOU LAY YOUR HEART IN FRONT OF ONE, SHE WILL STOMP IT FLAT. /rant
Ok. Study for your fucking exams. Those are going to be more valuable to you in the long run than some chick. As others have said, go read the sidebar on /r/TheRedPill. You're making a lot of mistakes that are answered right there in the text. Also, ignore said chick. Don't text, don't call, don't fantasize about. You should fantasize about 50 lb dumbells, bench press, squats, deadlifts, etc.
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No you can't. Girls use texting for validation and you have no idea about her body language, voice tone, context, sarcasm, etc. when communicating via text. Text for logistics only
ozthelion 11y ago
What do you mean by text for logistics only?
yesnolift 11y ago
The only purpose of texting should be to arrange a meet up in person.
unf1lt3r 11y ago
First of all, relax. Breathe, exercise or go do a hobby -whatever gets you out of your own head.
Outcome independence, man. Just enjoy yourself and quit stressing out. Have fun with the girl. Give things room to happen naturally.
If things go off the rails, no biggie. This is just one of the countless adventures that make up your life.
jacks_not_surprised 11y ago
After a relatively long time without any female partner, as soon as one girls shows affection or gives you attention, it's very easy to "fall in love with her" even though you DON'T FUCKING KNOW HER! The condition is called...oneitis.
Okay so this girl is really pretty and you've probably interacted with her quite a bit, you have a crush, cool.
Oh no...sighs...here we go! I bet you read your texts with her over and over again...78 times approx?
Dude! You have known 'been' with her only since Tuesday! You don't even know her...all her "lovable qualities" are in your head!
Watch this and tell me this is not you.
ozthelion 11y ago
Sadly, it is...
RedPillWatchTower 11y ago
Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to cut off this "girl I love" bullshit. You've got her on a pedestal so high she's sucking God's dick.
Gonna be honest with you, after
Your chances are probably pretty much shot.
How do I know? She delivered the ultimate "kiss of death":
Let me RedPill that statement for you:
"/u/ozthelion, I'm gonna make you wait for weeks before we have sex, because I'm not really, really attracted to you. I'm gonna make you WORK for what I gave the "bad boys" after one or two dates. I feel you can make a FANTASTIC beta who buys me dinners and stuff, and after some jewelry and paying for more dates, I might give you some missionary duty sex in a month. Or maybe not, if I find a haaaaawt guy with money, a jerk-boy attitude, and washboard abs."
You've got a serious case of ONEitis. Lose it, forget her, and spend some time reading the sidebar on /r/theredpill.
You can start here:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/
You're welcome.
bsutansalt Vanguard 11y ago
KAAAAABOOOOOOMMM!!!!! NEVER tell a woman you like her, especially one you haven't fucked yet. You just ruined any and all mystery and intrigue you had going in your favor.
Also, you've got ONEITIS in a bad way. Watch this video ASAP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdnYedTpToA
Once you're done watching it, go read the Year One posts at Rational Male. Then come back and watch the above video 2 or 3 more times.
ozthelion 11y ago
Thanks! Gonna go read it after the video. Do you have any other video suggestions for me that i should watch?
I'm currently attending college, if you have any advice for how to become Alpha material/or where to hang around Alpha guys and learn from them during college, it would be appreciated as well!
bsutansalt Vanguard 11y ago
Can't advise you on that, but what I will say is don't listen to women for dating advice. Instead look at the guys who are good with women and learn from them instead since they're doing something right.
As for becoming more "alpha", realize SMV is partly situational dependent. You can craft events where you're the focal point and therefore have the highest SMV in the room. Read the sidebar and report back once complete. This should take you at least a couple weeks.
MarriedRP 11y ago
!! ONEITIS ALERT !! Holy shit, one date and you're madly in love with her?!? Read the damn side bar, son.
Stop worrying about fucking up every little thing. None of us are nearly as smooth as we pretend to be on the internet. Take a few minutes to examine your mistakes and figure out how to handle it better next time, then move on and don't dwell on it.
Don't blow money on any restaurant fancy enough to require reservations. Not just because it's expensive, but because you then are obligated to stay for the entire meal. "oh wow, you collect pokemon cards too? I'd love to see your collection. Let's go after dinner" or whatever. Then by the time you finish dessert, that connection has faded, you're full and need a nap. Go for a drink (alcohol, coffee, etc) or something else you can leave instantly if you get an in like that.
Don't apologize. Ever. For anything.
Texting is for logistics ONLY. You are wasting all your good material when you can not escalate. You are only getting her hot and bothered for the very next guy she sees, which ain't you.
Yes, you fucked up. We all do. So what. Move on. It's not saveable. Do not contact her; if she's interested she will contact you.
Adach 11y ago
this is amazing
Mardoo 11y ago
haha i thought so aswell, but it's true :)
ozthelion 11y ago
I actually do workout.... it's just that i have a bad habit that when i have a crush, i kind of cling on......its pretty fucking bad.
MrFritzH 11y ago
Well, coming here is the best way to lose it and that whole co-dependent behavioral pattern.
sigmared82 11y ago
What kind of workout do you do? If you aren't lifting heavy, start. An hour on the treadmill, or dicking around with light dumbbells isn't the way to do it. You need to do deep squats, deadlifts, barbell rows, etc. That's how you boost your testosterone and confidence.
adventure_fine 11y ago
There is so much wrong with what I just read. You seriously need to mellow the fuck out. The best advice I or anyone else can give is, to GO READ THE SIDE BAR on theredpill.
prettylatebloomer 11y ago
Yep. Life isn't easy, in order to be able to fully enjoy it, hard work is required. You've got a lot of work to do OP, just be happy you're already good-looking enough to have girls you're into say yes to you on dates. You're not starting from 0 but you've got a long ways to climb playa
ozthelion 11y ago
I honestly don't know how to play the "game". I have no idea what to do after getting their number :\
MrFritzH 11y ago
You ask her out, and then dont text her more except in that context. If she answers, you answer, and you in general answer shorter and slower.
prettylatebloomer 11y ago
Brotha, if I'm being honest, I'm right the fuck there with you. I'm a 24 year old dude with really no idea what the hell I'm doing. Lucky for me, I've got good genes and girls love my looks/personality. I never truly understood human nature before TRP. You know what though? Better late than never. Put yourself out there. Don't be scared to fail because you WILL fail. Make those mistakes and learn from them. That's what every 14 year old kid did, what sucks about being a late bloomer is that you're late to the party and it makes you self conscious. Who gives a shit. Life is short. People are temporary. Most of the people you meet, you probably won't ever see them again in 5 years. It doesn't matter what other people think about you. Don't be scared to fail, put yourself out there.
LS_D 11y ago
Nice post, I agree completely. You have nailed it bro, 'later bloomer's' are better than 'no bloomers'! You know!
asd1100 11y ago
stop asskissing
Blue people hate PUA lingo, never use it with them. Also the amout of detail and intent comes of as creepy - they simply are prejudiced against men that aren't natural and need to think things before hand.
no it wasn't that blew up with your confessional.
Only her superios have the right to tease her, you are a emotional servant boy, you don't get to play games, you can only service her demands.
you have issues man. let me guess, hard father enabling mother?
yes, you did, but it was inevitable, you are simply too weak to handle a girl like her. Just because she was smiling and liked the dated doesn't mean she liked you. As long as you don't fuck up and do validate her she will feel good, just that it doesn't trasfer into her likiing you, dates are meant to build comfort, not spike atraction.
You lost her, get of the ride. Tell her(in person like the man you will become) you had fun but you need to figure some things out, appologise for your emotional vomit and thank her for being cool about it. Stop dating girls you like. You need to disociate sex and attraction. You need to learn how to lead and get your balls drained so we fix that neediness your mother created. YOu need to learn AWALT and how to manage and enjoy a good dinamic with a woman like that.
Your neediness, your hormones and your education make you extremely unatractive, add to that the normal bonding that occurs on dates(that comfort I was talking about) and you turn to mush, you become something only a mother can love.
After you learn to spin plates you can move on to whatever you actually want(LTR with a girl next door would be my guess)
helpyaboy2 11y ago
Never tell a girl you have feelings first, it makes her stop guessing. Girls like a mystery even when its obvious.
For now, I would not talk to her for a week.5, meet some other girls if possible, and then after the time, ask her out on another date. If shes down, do the same thing you did, but don't mention feelings and just kiss her. During the week you don't talk to her, immerse yourself in this sub
The_Turbinator 11y ago
This rings a lot of truth. I myself had to learn this the hard way. Told a few girls that I was really in to, and that responded back to me in kind that I loved them a lot - and that completely and totally killed it. They flaked off in a matter of days never to be heard from again.
I've learned from those experiences; keeping them guessing and not knowing is a powerful intoxicant for them.
Masonjarteadrinker2 11y ago
ONE Fucken Itis already? You haven't even kissed this girl playboy, you need to relax and take her off the fucken pedastal asap.
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RedPillWatchTower 11y ago
Holy jumping Jesus, does OP have a SHITLOAD or /r/trp sidebar reading to do.
sigmared82 11y ago
Not to be that guy, but remember /r/trp is an actual subreddit that is NOT the same thing as /r/TheRedPill.
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
I don't understand that sub.
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
female here:
pros: 1) she agreed AND followed through with the first date 2) she told you she had fun on the date 3) she agreed to meet with you a second time
cons: 1) she said she wanted to take things slowly 2) she took a joke the wrong way and was bitchy 3) there was no enthusiasm behind her agreeing to meet you in her texts
so you're 3 for 3. Kindly direct your attention to the *s. #2) you said she responded by being bitchy. well, what was the joke? maybe it actually was offensive or uncomfortable. but the fact that she replied is a good sign. Normally, a girl would probably not respond after the apology. Why? because you just want the conversation to end, and if its on a good note then thats the perfect time to end it. #3) there was no enthusiasm? well, how fake would it be if she suddenly switched gears from being "bitchy" to "sound good!! cant wait." YA. NOT VERY AUTHENTIC.
from what i gather, you're very quick to jump the gun and get validation that your feelings are reciprocated. think of a girl as a vagina: you dont just stick your dick inside it and she's ready to go. you have to take it slow, let her warm up, let her feel loose/comfortable before shes ready to go.
dont let your emotions get the best of you. be calm and collected, but honest too. Its probably best that you hugged her instead of going for that kiss. had you kissed her it would have been TOO QUICK TOO SOON. girls like space and privacy and feeling some sense of control in these interactions, especially when they know THEY'RE the ones being pursued. it's nice to have a sense of autonomy instead of having to go with the motions of what the guy wants and then looking like a cuntflower when you feel you're no longer part of the equation as an individual and say "no" or distance away.
girls like a bit of a chase and control. by control i am referring to being able to feel like YOU got what YOU wanted. i will leave you with this: its great when a shirt is on sale. but its even better if its a shirt on sale that you happen to also really like.
best of luck!!!
RedPillWatchTower 11y ago
Keep following this advice, OP. You'll be holding her Louis Vuitton purse at the mall and spooning on the couch with her while she complains about her "asshole" boyfriends in no time.
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help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
i start by saying im a female so that readers are aware what perspective my statement is coming from since this a male dominated sub and i dont want to be misleading.
i dont even know what special privileges exist, or if any do! i've only heard/read terrible things about this sub. i thought that phrase was a symbol of my sincerity on commenting. like a, cross your heart and hope to die sorta thing.
if i spoke fish, i would ask the fish because the fish would know where all the fish are and since i want fish, i dont want to compete with the fisherman for my fish.
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help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
thank you! but i think i got what i wanted out of this.
ozthelion 11y ago
Thank you so much!! You were right about me jumping the gun, i tend to do that often. What advice would you give me for future events, if i do have any with her?
MrFritzH 11y ago
Dude! Why are you listening to a female ?!?!!?
"Its probably best that you hugged her instead of going for that kiss. had you kissed her it would have been TOO QUICK TOO SOON."
Bullshit. The bolder you are, the more you are rewarded. Please read this freaking subreddit.
Furthermore, a female per definition has not been in your shoes and does not know how to woo a woman (as a man).
Secondly, she is tallying up your victories and losses. Dude! The whole point of this sub is that modern women are unreliable and ephemeral. We want to help you get to a point where you DO NOT care where one particular interaction goes, because you are the Prize and not her punani.
ozthelion 11y ago
I'm just looking for advice from both perspectives..
MrFritzH 11y ago
Her advice will not help you focus on whats what. Which is your whole attitude and mentality, and not all these micro-behaviors.
When your girl sees how weak and needy you are. Do you know why she will dislike it ? Because its effeminate.
Its what she, they do. If you are desperate in your mentality, it will bleed through into lots of behaviors and vibe that she will pick up on anyway!!!
They are masters at picking that kind of shit up.
But also masters at spewing lots of nonsense out to explain what is essentially an emotional process for them. For example, giving you attention and then taking it away or becoming cold through text etc. might all be small tests to gauge your neediness/value.
Again, if you do not change your mentalilty and take her off the pedestal you will behave in an unattractive way.
Seriously, do not listen to females. Please search main TRP for this, its a common fallacy.
Here is the correct mentality:
You want her, sexually.
You do not need her.
You do not need her.
You are happy independent of what happens.
Meeting her, is more like past time or just hanging out. Its not the event of the year etc.
But only you have your potential life trajectory and in general the ability to protect, guide and think for her.
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
the bolder you are, the more you are rewarded? you DO realize we are talking about humans here, no a fashion outfit.......
id also like to point out how majestically hypocritical it is that boys like you say things like "why are you listening to a female" on this thread when clearly the reason you're here is because you lack the ability to........it only makes me want to add more perspective!!! you want to get women? know how women think. not all of us are evil and conniving. just the ones with really low self-esteem who dont know what they want.
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
Well your advice was pretty shitty, I won't even take the time to once again explain why you don't take fishing advice from a fish.
BUT I will point that you are either stupid or trolling, because anyone could tell that the guy above meant bolder (bold) as being more brave.
English is not my native language and even I know that...
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
from the bottom of my heart, i truly feel sorry for some of you. you have internalized your self-hate so deeply that you feel that you must project this hate towards females to justify your self-hate, yet you can't accept the fact that you're obsessed with women. Some of you sound like what you are really searching for is for someone to love you. But until some of you learn to love yourselves, no one will be able to love you. I blame society for putting so much pressure on males to "win" females, that those who feel that they aren't on the same level field (due to whatever complex/insecurity) begin to resent women for not putting in any effort but still get to reap the benefits. You hate the power that women have in being able to reject you without having that power yourselves. The sad truth is that some of you lack self-awareness and project your internal frustration onto females. Your anger is disappointed love. I can't even imagine how beat up some of your dicks must look from your sexual frustrations.
you sound like a bunch of fat girls staying in on Friday nights eating ice cream and hating on skinny girls while giving each other weight loss tips.
and as for you u/RojoEscarlata, it is very obvious that english is not your native language because your reading comprehension skills are quite poor. Deciding to kiss a girl on a date isnt being "brave." You are not overcoming a fear (unless you fear females?). If it is rejection that you fear, then you shouldn't be putting another person in an uncomfortable position unless you are confident that both of you are on the same page. But then again, confidence isn't exactly y'alls fotré.
give your outstretched foreskins my hellos! xo
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/navy-seal-copypasta
bye felicia
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
be interesting. talk about stuff. stuff that isnt serious or melancholic. did something in the news/media remind you of something funny you did as a child? those stories are always heart-felt and nice. if shes leading the conversation, follow and ask questions. do you do stuff that gets you one step closer to where you want to be/the person you want to be? no? Now you do. any past relationship/girl-related questions that get asked to you? like:
1) how have your other relationships been?
2) what do you look for in a girl/what's your type?
and most of all, dont put any pressure on the situation. there is no ticking time bomb. be enthusiastic about things. be really polite/kind to others who are around you, she may feel a sense of pride being around you. believe me, if it all goes well and you dont make a move, it wont be a loss. if anything, she will wonder why you didnt do anything when it all seemed so great. she will now be more willing to see you again. remember, girls TALK to each other. think of the story you want her to tell her friends. hint: not fairytales.
and my golden rule: if you want to assess how it is going, when she is talking about something that is cute/funny/sweet/sugarspiceverthingnice and you're making eye contact, SMILE. if she smiles back, you're all good.
sigmared82 11y ago
Tits or GTFO.
No offense, but, OP, don't take dating advice from women. Listen to the other comments. Women can only tell you what they want to experience they cannot tell you how to proceed. Next time you get dating advice from a woman ask yourself "I wonder how many chicks she's picked up?" (...as a man, some chicks are really good at picking up chicks, but it's different for men.)
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
well, since you've so politely italicized "she," let me answer:
if you havent seen tits in a while (besides the ones you fap to online) i am more than happy to show them. i wont be 22 forever!
sigmared82 11y ago
You must be new here, or to the internet. Tits or GTFO is one of the rules of the internet for good reason.
MrFritzH 11y ago
Wow, more BP bullshit.
wtf ?
"taste the panic". Exactly. Emotional detection and then ad-hoc rationalization. BTW emotional detection works relatively fine, I am not even bashing it in fact.
You just wrote that you told him about the topics you remember that your alpha fucks had. Those topics were irrelevant, it was their attitude, vibe etc. that tipped you off to their desireability.
Ok. This is female la-la-land. A man will not understand how an "asshole" can make you feel "special". Only through understanding game.
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
you're right, it was the attitude/vibe that they gave off. But who doesn't sound confident when they are talking about an incident from their childhood that is funny and enduring? The reason I gave that particular example was because I was able to respond back with a similar-ish story, which kept the conversation going. And with that particular encounter, he was not what I would consider an alpha male. Did he become more desirable as we spoke? yes. Why? because he told me something that I was able to relate to. There is a reason why men fall for what they see and women fall for what they hear.
how does an asshole make a girl feel special? The same way that a man is less likely to want to sleep with a woman who has slept with many of his friends. An asshole is known for being an asshole, but once he treats one girl less like an asshole than the rest, she feels like the chosen one and feels validated. Thus, feeling special.
MrFritzH 11y ago
You already found him attractive. If he was unattractive in his vibe etc, he could tell the same story and it would be uninteresting.
You just said:
Furthermore...
Wrong!
You treat a girl as less important and hopefully as less interested than her other suitors, that will make her want to get more niceness out of you. And work for it.
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
being attracted to someone and finding someone attractive are different, in my opinion. George Clooney? Attractive, but not attracted. Seth Rogan? not attractive, but attracted.
how many suitors do you think a woman has at a single period of time?! How do you know how the other suitors treat her? Why would she want to get more niceness out of you? How is your niceness different than the others, which are easier to attain and maintain? What if she thinks you're not interested in her and doesn't make an effort in order to save herself the embarrassment of looking desperate?
Your example reminds me of what Regina George did to Gretchen Wieners in Mean Girls.
however, in trying to see your perspective, this is the best I could understand it as: if other guys are ogling over her at a party but you act composed but still friendly (aka she is aware of your existence but you're not nearly as obvious as the others), she may take a particular liking to you because she will feel more safe and less objectified.
I think it also depends on the kind of female you're trying to attract. Someone who is secure does not need to be put on a pedestal and has nothing to work for because your opinion doesn't validate her, but rather complements her. Someone who's not secure with themselves and needs to be validated is willing to do what it takes to please the person to receive that validation (Gretchen Wieners from Mean Girls should ring a bell). If you want to attract girls who only feel good about themselves when you deem them worthy to be then....you're gonna have a bad time.
moonlandings 11y ago
I'm calling bullshit on the showing tits.
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
where do i post?
moonlandings 11y ago
I'll accept a PM as an alternate form of verification. Or just GTFO
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
Here?
help_me_help_you_duh 11y ago
i meant that I dont know how to post a photo to reddit. how do others do this?
southernfriedcode 11y ago
go imgur.com
upload photo
copy link, post here
if you're smart enough to copypasta a navy-seal meme you can do this.
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
Then just GTFO.