on campus, cute girl sitting alone looking anxious (got it from her body language), walked up and talked to her.
conversation went something like this:
me: "what are you up to?"
her: "waiting for my friends, I'm meeting them in 3 minutes" ( in 3 minutes it would have been 3:30 exactly)
me:" idc lets talk"
I use "Conversationalist" skill on cute girl
--- 10 minutes later---
shes comfortable and interaction is at a high point.she finishes talking, i dont have a follow up (topic ended).
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sensing the conversation was dying, out of desperation i ask about her plans for the weekend. in hindsight, i think i should of just looked at her and smiled for a few seconds ( got this idea while typing this post, would it have been a good idea to not say anything after, make eye contact for a few seconds while thinking something sexual and then say "i like your pretty blue eyes"?).
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during the conversation, she picked up her phone and sent a few texts, i think she was stalling with her friends because she was enjoying my company, but i didn't escalate during the interaction and she wasn't hot by the end.
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there wasn't much i could tease her about physically or what i learned about her. so i charmed her instead because she was more impressive then a BWB.
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i had nothing else up my sleeve, she decided it was time to go and i went desperate and asked for a coffee date knowing the spark had died. she used the good old "i have a boyfriend" response.
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i would like some advice on possible ways to escalate/excite the girl in a situation like this .
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DiSysmic 7y ago
No theoretical advice can prepare you for the next. Do more approaches. Each interaction is different. The advice you're seeking lies within your experience; the more you do it, the more your responses will evolve.
GtheSnail 7y ago
true, this is why i stated a specific situation, was hoping to get response in the line of could of done this or that. like i cant think of anything at all, I'm at the point to where i think "comment on her looks generically" ( nice smile, pretty eyes, nice outfit etc....) this applies to everyone of them.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
No. You neg. Don't compliment on her looks until you know for certain she's (very) interested in you.
GtheSnail 7y ago
good advice, now i gotta figure out how to neg better.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
You didn't neg at all.
GtheSnail 7y ago
yup, thats pretty bad. I'm working on it.
TehJoshW 7y ago
Wait, did you really ask her what's up and when she said she's waiting for her friends you replied with "I don't care, lets talk" ?
GtheSnail 7y ago
no, i said "oh okay" looked at my phone to giver her an out if she wanted,looked back and she was looking at me,so i talked to her like normal.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
This was her trying to tell you she wasn't interested (before having to drop the ol' "boyfriend" line). If she was actually "stalling her friends" she wouldn't have said anything about a boyfriend.
GtheSnail 7y ago
you do make a good point, allow me to elaborate.
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this happened twice during the conversation. I picked up on that and after i had finished speaking, i paused to give room to say "well i g2g meet my friends" , she was at the point to where i she was rambling and smiling. i just sat there and listened (i also made strong eye contact, had open body language, was calm and relaxed and got her to do 80% of the talking. this is my approach and i believe thats part of being an alpha).
i believe she could have left without being rude earlier. i just let the situation die down instead of escalating.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
She was just being polite. If a girl is really interested in you she won't text someone within first few minutes of banter. And she wouldn't mention her boyfriend (if she even has one). She had zero interest in you, just didn't want to be rude about it.
GtheSnail 7y ago
i dont feel like your understanding what I'm saying. i have no problem with the facts, # thing for me is the truth so i can learn. let me recap my points
" she won't text someone within first few minutes of banter. " .she stated that she was meeting her friends in 3 minutes when i asked what she was doing, and it was 2:27, obviously she had planned to meet at 3:30. she had ample opportunity to leave during the interaction, i even made sure she had it, she did not take it and was rambling about herself and even asking me questions and making eye contact.
the conversation was energetic throughout, especially by her. the issue i saw from this interaction was that because i didn't escalate it sexually, she had lost interest by the end, and now felt like going.thats when i asked for her number, as she was leaving (when the fire died) and then she said "i have a boyfriend".
my understanding of the situation is that she had interest, then lost it by the end due to no escalation(sexually) by me.
I'm here to learn, and debating is part of that.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
How do you know the exact minute you started the conversation? Were you trying to time your move from afar or something? You sound a bit stalkerish, /u/American_Pegasus
GtheSnail 7y ago
i saw her, looked at the time and realized i had 33 minutes to kill, so i went and talked to her..... small chance of doing that and then her going "i have to meet my friends in 3 minutes " but yea it did happen, thats actually why i remember , was like "wow, knowing the exact time is super fucking useful in analyzing this one".
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I'm not here to impress anybody, dont give a fuck if i totally fucked everything up and acted like a POS beta. if you dont believe what i say as fact, then idk wtf the point is.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
To test TRAs game level right before he's tied to two vaginas for life. "Recon," I believe, is the parlance?
INNASKILLZ2K18 7y ago
Stop overthinking it all. Best thing you can do is approach, create a little banter, maybe qualify and tease, maybe light kino, and ask for a number.
You have to polarize early, not play the long game. Give her a chance to be fuck yes or no
Edit: just read the whole post, and you went for the number.
Next time you can be more direct with it. Don't let yourself bumble around. Get in, be strong, lead, polarize, number.
GtheSnail 7y ago
" you have to polarize early, not play the long game. " how do you normally go about accomplishing that?
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also, sorry i actually edited my post after your edit, i said "your were fun to talk to,lets grab coffee sometime".
INNASKILLZ2K18 7y ago
Best you can do. They are either fuck yes or no.
If they give the boyfriend line,and I'm in the zone, I sonetimes say 'see, I wanted to find out if you're cool, now you're telling me your problems. if you want to solve it, give me your phone'.
I type number in and walk off. Never know