Alright redspergs, been a while since I asked for advice but this shit is getting to me and I need to snap out of it however my mind seems to be in a loop and I do not see any way out except for suicide which I really don't want to do because I love life.
Disclaimers and stuff: Yes I lift 4 times a week and I am in great physical shape. I am above 181cm, I am handsome and do not have any problem with women. I do earn good amount of money for my current location and do not experience any financial difficulties. I travel frequently due to work and am able to meet new people. I do have hobbies, I teach or preach or whatever you want to call it and have something of a small cult, followers, constant students again use any wording you like it doesn't matter (RSD Julien type of stuff).
Now that all those standard answers that are given to newbies are out of the way, let me ask you the question.
WHY?: What is the point in earning money if the system is rigged and people born into certain families will always have better life and have hidden knowledge of things unimaginable to us? What is the point of sex or relationships if I lose interest in anybody after first 3-6 month and I fully understand that I will never commit or trust any single person? What is the point of doing your best and trying if death is inevitable? I have thought about creating offspring and advancing myself so much that I can guarantee better life for my offspring and then they can do the same and so on and so forth, but that to me seems like such a stupid reason to live for. What is the point in getting any mission if whatever we do in the grand scheme of things will never matter? Do you understand that we do not even know our history, we do not really know what happened on 9/11 which happened 9 years ago let alone knowing what happened 100, 1000, 10000 years ago? Do you realize how many civilizations could have been lost and how many times earth history could be rewritten? Do you understand how stupid it is to worry about your left chest peck being in-proportionate to your right one? I still lift but I do it to stay healthy and strong for myself so that I can live tiny bit longer so that maybe i can find any answer to anything?
I see no point in sex, to me it became like playing video games. When I used to play MOBAs i shut myself off from life and focused on short term mission in game which had clearly defined set of rules and it was easy. I do same shit during sex now, I shut off life and emotions and even stop thinking that I am interacting with human being. That person to me becomes an object and I do whatever I want and they like it. Do you realize that if GOD exists he is the most cruel mother fucker for creating such dynamic where human beings enjoy on psychological and physiological level the objectification?
I research satanism, magick, psychology, afterlife, logic, philosophy and every field is so deep and immense that I realize that during my lifetime I will only scratch the surface of it and do not have enough time to actually contribute or acquire true knowledge. However that statement is false as well since true knowledge should be processes by an entity that has no predisposition towards anything and it is just is, however for human beings that is virtually impossible because our brains are wired since our childhood by facts and ideas provided to us by other humans through their words, actions and agenda. Do you understand that everything you know or you think you and all conclusions you have drawn up until this point are nothing? And anything you think is true doesn't really matter because you will never know for sure and if you think you do you are an idiot.
No I am not on drugs, no I have not done psychedelics and no I am not an alcoholic or suicidal. I do tend to go on drinking and fucking sprees once every couple month because I can't take my brain thinking these thoughts anymore and destroying itself but thats about it.
So Red please answer, WHY?
Note: Please don't give bullshit answers that we create our own meaning in life blah blah blah, that shit makes me puke, how naive you have to be to think that. I would respect people more who just say fuck it and do whatever you want because nothing matters than telling me stupid prepackaged template sentences. And please do not answer if you don't want to truly have discussion. I read sidebar and top posts and all posts on redpill more than you can imagine and been reading redpill every morning for the past 2-3 years. I apologize if I come across as a douche or ass or arrogant, but I just don't want newbs who discovered redpill couple month ago and now think that they are alpha (Fucking stupid concept anyway because there is not such thing, the only thing that matters is intentions of action taken) to give me some bullshit advice that they read on some post and now paraphrase it without internalizing what I have said let alone that poster was trying to say.
poisedStygian 8y ago
Your fundamental issue is despairing over high level abstractions, zooming out universally and making yourself infinitesimally small. You're also reveling in the postponed destiny of death, devaluing the present. With so much de-centering, out through space and forward in time, it's no surprise you're feeling depersonalized and likewise evaporating anyone else's potential for humanity.
Truth may very well be limited to mathematical tautologies. If you brushed up against Kant, you'd consider that empirical knowledge is suspect as it's merely encountered through a narrow band of dubious sense perception. Knowledge of a thing-in-itself, the noumena, is beyond the scope of human faculties. Schopenhauer presents a more profound locus for the noumena as the will, of which we have direct experience and soft mastery over. If you're truly resigned to discrediting the value of will, then you've conscripted yourself to a life of fatal nihilism.
Turning away from truth we have simulation, which is a dirty word in this day and age, the social simulation de jour being a golden calf. However, all art is a simulation of at least the second degree. It is a lie about a lie. The first lie is that which is experienced, the second lie is that which is created, as its a replica of a replica. That does not mean art is without value. My advice to you is to realize a preoccupation with death is just a defense mechanism against the perils of living, come to terms with the strained and circular nature of the truth, find out which lies inflame you then set the world on fire. If you're looking for a rote instruction manual for contentment you'll find nothing authoritative in the last 5,000 years.
Andorli 8y ago
This, this so much.
Dude can we meet up and smoke with you. I would not mind having a discussion on anything with you. You got me, you actually took your time and gave me an actual advice. Basically since we do understand that nothing in itself has meaning and everything is "simulation" or simulation of a simulation find the lie that drives you the most and live with it. The thing is every lie I find breaks overtime since my brain tends to take it apart piece by piece untill nothing but the emptiness of it all is left.
Chaddeus_Rex 8y ago
Use death as a motivator. Why worry about it if it is as inevitable as the rising or setting of the sun? Every man lives a certain amount of time on this Earth that was given to him at birth. Use the time that you have wisely for you wont get it back again.
IronJohnKwando 8y ago
get out of your head, my man. Stop thinking, and just do. Become grounded in the reality in front of you and take action.
Andorli 8y ago
This was posted as a disclaimer so that I do not get answers like
I do shit ton, it is not satisfying to me.
IronJohnKwando 8y ago
go to therapy and sort yourself out, no one here is going to give you the answer
Andorli 8y ago
I figured that, but the thing is there is no therapist here who can as well. I just need to snap out of this shit, I always do.
IronJohnKwando 8y ago
I feel you man. The advice I gave worked for me. I'll clarify: "stop thinking, and just do." I mean I spent way too much time in my head, essentially in a nihilistic state of existential dread. Nothing makes sense when I'm in that place. I had to give up on those questions because I was miserable. I had to refocus my thoughts on what mattered to me here and now, and what will matter to me in 10 years, in 30 years, and in 50 years. From your post, it sounds like you are generally in a comfortable position and not in a place of challenge. Not struggling with women or finances, or fitness. What challenges you, other than these questions that are usually unanwserable?
Check out Jordan Peterson if you haven't yet. I got a lot out of his lectures. Talks about finding meaning in a potentially pointless existence.
Andorli 8y ago
Now this actually makes sense, when life poses no challenge you get docile, comfortable and start pondering upon unanswerable questions, however when challenge is present you forget to pay attention to those questions. Thank you, that made sense and I think I do need to find a challenge for myself, usually it was pursuing women and putting myself in interesting situations, lets see if I can reanimate that.
vandaalen 8y ago
find a mission and pursue it
Nah. Just like you are little bit retarded.
Andorli 8y ago
What you are saying is equivalent to playing video game since you find some specific purpose and focus on it and ignore rest of the world, same shit when you play CoD for example, you focus on finishing campaign and the fact that you have work tomorrow doen't matter. That mission still doesn't matter.
Bet you were on your schools debate team.
vandaalen 8y ago
/r/im14andthisisdeep
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/thread
This post and the post from the autistic 'genius' who felt the need to remind us that he took an online IQ test and got a high score really make me wonder about the future of r/asktrp.
Andorli 8y ago
Thank you seems like interesting read will check it out.
AnjaJutta 8y ago
You have a video game problem.
Andorli 8y ago
EDIT: Better comeback.
You have jumping to conclusions too fast problem.
hiddenpersona 8y ago
I advise you to microdose mushrooms or lsd every 4th day. Your perception will change and overall your life will become a different simulation than your current. The things you will notice and discover will be unbelievable.
Andorli 8y ago
Can't due to my current location. I can do green stuff if needed which lead me to some deep realization and feeling that everything is connected somehow but i never ends well. So I resort to using it for making sex more intence and not for enhancing thought process.
Chaddeus_Rex 8y ago
There is no point in anything at all beyond the meaning you ascribe to it. But at the same time our mortality is a blessing for the shortness of our lives make our deeds even more beautiful. Our mortality brings u closer to the sublime. Our mortality gives our lives a beauty that even the Gods envy:
"The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again" - Brad Pitt from Troy
jackandjill22 8y ago
So, what's your problem her TL;DR version.
mrHappyPotatoe 8y ago
Nobody knows the answer. Why. Funny thing is nobody who have ever lived even jesus if he lived didnt know the asnwer. And he who claims he knows is full of bullshit.
Andorli 8y ago
Exactly my point. So what do you do about it? You just live? Wouldn't that then make everything pointless and the fact that we have moral values and systems are all kind of bullshit? Would not that defy the entire system that we so desperately try to create? Wouldn't it mean that anybody can do anything since nothing matter and everything is ok? So what are the boundaries of this?
growinglats 8y ago
Five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Eventually you’ll accept that life has no meaning and be unphased by it.
In fact, sometimes I feel like the happiest person in the world because I get to experience all this for 75 or so years. You’re so lucky to be alive!!
What do you want to do? Who do you want to be? The world is your oyster. Find anything that’s excited you or fulfills you. If those feelings subside, keep searching! Have fun with it, enjoy it. You won’t get another chance.
neverquitman 8y ago
-Those questions are pointless. You don't need to dive deep into the why's, just focus on yourself.
Your maths is wrong. You need to read books.
-And if you have a massive loss of drive. Take a break. Go on a vacation.
You did't understand the redpill concept. Its not about not having emotions. Its about having emotions but you open up when you love that person. Go read the search. There were some amazing posts about loving someone. Redpill is about not acting beta and not acting in a needy way. Its about being a male and having self respect. Redpill is flexible. Don't be rigid. Dont be a douche please.
Andorli 8y ago
Thank you for teaching me about being open and honest with yourself and letting yourself feel the emotions instead of blocking them because feeling and being able to observe those feeling without tying your ego or existense to them is what we should trully strive for as that is a honest and humble way to live your life. Loving somebody for what they are and accepting the reality of their being the way they are and fully understanding that what you love does not belong to you but rather is its own being and your love should not be possesive and emotions should not come from greed is the true way to love, and the ability to let just let go and be observer is the way of men.
What you tried to explain I got that years ago.
No shit Sherlock, how did I not get this before, thank you for pointing this out. Up untill this point in my life I would have never guessed that self-respect is an important virtue and I needed a stranger on internet to enlighten me about it.
I am looking for deeper answers than sidebar material, deeper answers than recommended books materials. Don't think that you can read models, book of pook, NMMNG, Robert Greene etc. etc. and teach me that, I have read that years ago and re-read important books once a year.
Look I am in a bad place in my head, and obvious answers like this infuriate me even more because it shows that you did not even give thought to what I wrote. So lets just end conversation here because I see no further point.
neverquitman 8y ago
You are obviously looking to dive deep into philosophical matters, I get it.
Psychology and philosophy is your best bet.