Hey guys,
As a lot of you probably have experienced for yourselves, setting up a Netflix and chill date is accompanied by the last minute text of:
“hey idk what the expectations are but are you just looking to hookup?”
“If you’re looking for a hookup only then I might not be the girl for you”
“Maybe we should go somewhere instead?”
There’s a hundred variations of this text, but it’s as sure as the sunrise for when you invite girls over to chill.
Some girls are genuinely nervous and flake, others just want reassurance.
I’m decent at replying to these by now but I know I can get a lot better. Any of you guys have any tips or advice?

Crurple 8y ago
All I’d say is “all I’m looking to do is hangout and watch a movie, if that’s not for you, no problem.”
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
Yeah I like this approach. It’s similar to what I do now but I play it off with humor. I usually tease them that I’m going to kick their ass at Mario kart or connect 4 when they come over. So when I get the LMR text I say “the only expectations I have is that you bring your A game for connect 4 to avoid embarrassment” - Something along the lines of that. It usually defuses the situation, other chicks are more stubborn about it and keep pressing the issue. At that point I stop trying at all, because they were probably going to flake in the first place, and I’m not looking for a headache. In that case I’ll usually send “haha totally understand!” Translating that I don’t care and I’m unbothered either way
Crurple 8y ago
Little bit of humor is great too, Go with this and you’ll be fine.
Morphs_ 8y ago
Reframe it as if she's the one looking for sex: I expect to watch a movie while chilling hard, so don't get any weird things in your head.
It's essentially a question for some possible deniability. The opportunity of sex must never be a given beforehand. It must happen spontaneously, even if the guy has to plan it all out.
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
This is great advice. I think I might start adding that from now on. Flip the pressure back on her
RPAlternate42 8y ago
Not possible deniability... Plausible deniability.
Morphs_ 8y ago
Whoops that's what I meant
jb_trp 8y ago
Often chicks say this because they've been pumped-and-dumped too many times, and even though words like this mean exactly fuck-all before you're alone in a room with someone, they want to try to get you to hint about commitment before you've even vet them as a decent LTR.
The problem with these women is that they're playing SlutGame^TM and it doesn't work. A slut isn't a woman who sleeps with a lot of dudes; it's a woman who doesn't have any real qualities that would make a high-value man want to commit to her, but deludes herself into thinking that sex is enough to procure commitment (hint: it's not). Her sleeping with a lot of dudes is only a symptom, not the problem itself per se. These dudes hook up with her, but aren't interested in sticking around. And this happens over and over.
Sometimes I like the pressure flip: "Wait... You're thinking about hooking up with me already?" It gives me a good chuckle.
If a girl doesn't want to come over straight to your place and says, "Maybe we should go somewhere instead?" This isn't the end of the world, I'll often go along with it, and pick a place near by house or hers for drinks, then if meeting up goes well, go somewhere alone.
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
This is solid advice, thanks a lot for this. The main thing i need to remember going forward needs to be the pressure flip
jb_trp 8y ago
Not necessarily always. Gaming girls is like reading a baseball, you've got to read the pitch. Some women it'll be fine with, other chicks might blow you off. Don't worry about this and just have solid frame to maximize your chances of success.
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
That’s true, good point. Each situation will definitely be a little different.
Phoenixston 8y ago
Tips/Advice:
yumyumgivemesome 8y ago
"I'll be putting up a pillow wall between us so I can watch the movie in peace, just in case you get any naughty ideas." And depending on whether she's the type of role-playing girl who writes longer texts, you can add "Just make sure you're ready for the pillow fight at intermission."
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
I like this advice a lot. Humor seems to be the way to go to easily diffuse the situation. It’ll work for the girls that do want to come over put are putting up the ASD. For the girls that it doesn’t work on, they were probably going to flake anyways, and there’s nothing that can really salvage it
Peter_B_Long 8y ago
Something like, "nothing is gonna happen that you don't want to happen" if it's a comfort test. If it's a shit test, say something like, "Low key I just can't watch scary movies alone".
Me personally though I don't invite girls straight to my place for the first fuck. I just don't have that much sauce. I'll probably tell them to drive to my place and then I'll drive us to grab a drink or go to a drive in movie or something. I'll escalate when we're out and get her more attracted and turned on. Then, I'll shift the venue to my place. "Hey I have some drinks back at my place" / "I bet you suck at Mario Kart, I have the game at my place if you think you can prove me wrong" / "Let's watch a movie back at my place and hold hands"
Then of course after the first fuck, I'll invite them straight to my place. I invited a new plate over this weekend and she said, "Hey what are we gonna be doing?" and I said "eat ice cream and hold hands"
mega_kook 8y ago
How exactly can you tell if it’s a comfort or shit test when it’s only over text?
mrHappyPotatoe 8y ago
Its not lmr. Its antislut defense thats up constantly. There is no lmr text. Lmr is when girl is already at your place and lmr can take 10min to couple of hours.
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
Very true. Title should be changed to ASD text
cl3537 8y ago
One of my first posts on this site was on this very topic. The mistake I made was to get boxed in and making it combative.
I ended up cancelling a date with a girl "who told me she just wanted to go out as friends", not just for that reason but there were others as well.
I regretted this decision and my response to her as well.
Don't make it awkward or combative and don't make 'you holding frame' and communicating that the most important thing.
"I just wanted to take a cute girl out for a drink and get to know each other better" that works and is relatively benign.
"Sure Friend, First round is on you" is okay as well.
The point is to get her to agree to go out with you and be flexible, not blow up the meet because you refuse to enter that "no hookup" frame.
Really when a girl tells you this she is really saying it to herself. You are going to do what you wanted no matter what. You will escalate as far as she lets you and you will be flirtatious and use innuendo.
What you aren't going to do is sit on your hands because she told you 'no hooking up' you really should just say whatever you gotta say to get her to go out with you and act as if it was never said.
The WORST thing you can do is sit on your hands because she told you no hookups.
Second worse is the pressure flip where you act cocky over text, for me that never works as it is in-congruent with my style and general behavior. If when I met her I was a cocky asshole that might work but that isn't my game and I find that works much better in person.
JerryLawlerPigFace 8y ago
This was pretty much spot on. Excellent advice.
chazthundergut 8y ago
Unless you are superchad, you need to give her hamster enough room to move around and give herself permission to fuck you. Most guys are not gonna succeed if they're just totally up front and say you just want sex. Give her an excuse to have sex.
But also you should not be telling her what your expectations are up front the way she wants you to. Let her be the one to do that. Keep it vague, and hint that you are in fact open to a relationship, but it's gotta be the right girl and there needs to be chemistry.
Your best bet is to flip it around and force her hand. The same way she doesn't want to get boxed in as a chick you're just fucking, you also should avoid getting boxed in to a guy who she's not gonna fuck. So leave the possibility of more on the table, but make it clear that you're not looking for a platonic relationship (in other words, she needs to know that you're a man who requires sex as a baseline to be involved with a chick, and you're unwilling to give her your time and validation if she's not giving you her pussy)
“hey idk what the expectations are but are you just looking to hookup?”
I'm not "just" looking to hook up, but I'm not interested in just hanging out as friends either. So if that's what you're looking for then I'm not the right guy.
“If you’re looking for a hookup only then I might not be the girl for you”
If you're just looking for a nonsexual friend then I'm definitely not the right guy for you.
“Maybe we should go somewhere instead?”
You wanna get dinner first? (if this is the first date, then invite her out for drinks)
Hugegains55 8y ago
Do you say those things for real?
chazthundergut 8y ago
Not those things exactly, but yea I've sent similar texts.
I spent most of my mature life getting friendzoned by chicks. I've played the nice guy for long enough to know that it doesn't work for me.
But neither does telling a chick to come over to fuck outright (at least not for me).
I would much prefer to be rejected by a chick than waste my time wining and dining her only to find out what a great guy I am and how much she values my friendship.
I'd rather take the "L" and move on to the next.
arcsector2 8y ago
Double down. "If you weren't looking for a hookup, then you wouldnt be talking to me right now."
Alternatively as a push: "If you are having doubts before even meeting me, maybe you aren't the right girl for me."