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kenbenis 7y ago
I've never once see a girl cover up or cower when a buff guy walks past, if he is attractive and aesthetic.
JohnDick2k 7y ago
Basic body language. Girls cover their breasts from men that aren’t attractive to them
StrifePrevails 7y ago
Yeah, you're either ugly or threatening, OP
vandaalen 7y ago
those are not related. threatening can be very positive.
DuckCommanderH75 7y ago
Be Proud man!.
StrifePrevails 7y ago
They are. In the sense that the reaction to them would be exactly the same. She covers her chest for guys that she finds unattractive because she doesn't want them peeking at the goods. She covers her chest when feeling threatened so as to "shrink" within herself, some atavistic urge to present a smaller target. Same outward reaction but different motivations.
I agree that slightly threatening is much better than completely harmless but OP can't tell the difference. We'd need more context to say for certain which it is. Any analysis of body language has to judge in "clusters" because isolated behaviours like the example OP gave can mean anything
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Fapisluv 7y ago
Maybe you look like a buff terrorist.
aShiftyLad 7y ago
Try smiling to off-set perhaps. Then see if they show more open body language.
casemodz 7y ago
This. I noticed that I have a very mean resting face. I didn't realize this made me seem mad or mean or angry.
AshyBoneVR4 7y ago
Same. I call it angry-black-man-face. My equivalent of resting-bitch-face. In the last year I've been told on several occasions that I'm straight up scary.
Thunderfin 7y ago
lol, savage but true
Yogeshwar_maya 7y ago
No, it can be reverse psychology. They feel horny and act like they don't. They see a muscular guy > horny > instinct to show bobs > conscious effort to hide that instinct > close bobs. A small talk can show you how open she can be ;)
Kellermann 7y ago
So much this
yumyumgivemesome 7y ago
Another possibility is that OP's big chest reminds the women about their own chest and, for whatever insecure reasons, they subconsciously cover theirs or maybe place a hand near it to sort of ensure it's still there, covered, in place, or whatever. Sort of like seeing someone else's hair looking either awesome or terrible and then immediately patting your own hair to make sure everything is in the right place.
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Morphs_ 7y ago
It would mean you need to look for chicks with bigger tits
Gr33d3ater 7y ago
Stop saying FWIW. Some beta shit. It isn’t a whole lot let me tell you that right now. “Oh, for whatever YOU think this is worth....”. Fuck that. What you say is either valued by yourself or not. FWIW is a term for women who need other people to tell them it’s worth something. It’s defeatism and insecurity in a phrase.
BrutalMan420 7y ago
imagine being this autistic
Gr33d3ater 7y ago
Imagine a world where what you say actually matters. Crazy, I know.
endertheend 7y ago
FWIW Gr33d3ater, you're kind of a cunt.
Gr33d3ater 7y ago
It was worth nothing.
Morphs_ 7y ago
You have a point when a guy would say FWIW as loot to a woman, makes him look insecure.
However ITT it's OP and fellow brethren, and he IS uncertain about something because he's asking a question.
Thunderfin 7y ago
And who says that your words matter? Or mine?
Why are you getting so defensive brah? As TRP (and life tips in general) says, ignore lose-lose situations and move on.
dtyler86 7y ago
The fact that you notice may be an indicator that you’re not noticing by as subtly as you may think. In my apartment building I noticed that if I’m looking down at my phone in my hallway and an attractive girl is walking towards me their past year is completely natural as long as I’m not looking up. As soon as I look up no matter how far away they are they immediately look down or start fidgeting for things to keep their hands occupied. Maybe they are looking at you because you are attractive or you are masculine but it’s the fact that you are looking at them that maybe makes them a little uneasy.
lev_eon 7y ago
Shave the beard?
Kabuki431 7y ago
I get more front hugs instead of side hugs
bluechipmonk 7y ago
No, I'm a slim muslim guy and they still do that shit to me >D
They are do that cuz they feel intimidated. Like u/Zanford said below
Intimidation reflex acts more quickly than arousal reflex (although the latter can be damn fast.) Maybe you have a scowly face too.
omega_dawg93 7y ago
unless you're carrying a Q'uran, how do they know you're muslim?
no disrespect, but you could easily be mistaken for a light-skinned black dude, a latino man, native american, etc.
bluechipmonk 7y ago
it depends i guess. some girls could tell I'm "from middle east" and some couldn't tell where I might be from at all.
Yogeshwar_maya 7y ago
You are right mate. Trust your instincts first. Everybody in the comment section didn't perceived your exact situation. You may feel they are horny towards you because you experienced their behavior and body language personally. Their breathing patterns change when they feel horny. Their face look different. Everything must be taken into account. Also hiding chests can be reverse psychology. You are right.
CainPrice 7y ago
Women cover up around you because you're creeping them out.
This may not be connected to the fact that you're building muscle.
youareshandy 7y ago
Maybe smile more to appear more approachable and less threatening.
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ethical_pa 7y ago
I get that too when I have resting asshole face. (Not so much covering their breasts, but the sense that women feel intimidated). I'm not HUGELY muscular, but I'd say more that average. The thing is, women generally like muscular/fit guys, but they don't want some socially uncalibrated muscle head who has this as his only "shtick". You know what I mean. He walks around, expecting to be admired by women and intimidating guys. It just doesn't work because it intimidates women too. So if you have a scowl face, are reactive, and do not appear as friendly and social, then yes, a lot of women will feel threatened, intimidated or at the very least, not want to engage with you socially.
Just get out of your head and stop trying to look for positive reactions from women. This is bad even if you aren't intimidating/muscular. Just go about your day and worry about being centered and on your path.
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Zanford 7y ago
Intimidation reflex acts more quickly than arousal reflex (although the latter can be damn fast.) Maybe you have a scowly face too.
I wouldn't sweat it as long as you get IOI body language with the girls you actually approach / talk to / know
I bet if you dress nicer (especially a biz-casual style of nicer) that will dial back the intimidation reflex
Elfclan30 7y ago
Source for ur first statement?
Zanford 7y ago
Well I don't have a scientific source, sorry, but feel free to go around trying to alternately scare people or arouse them, and see which one you can accomplish faster. Do you have a prediction?
epicfadeout 7y ago
The right answer here is "who gives a fuck".
Youre building muscle? Dope. Have an actual purpose in this life? Even better. Women are fickle, and no, not every single woman who covers up is necessarily doing this out of finding a guy unattractive. Maybe she is, or maybe it's cause she's an insecure little bitch about her own body and this expresses itself through her fidgeting and covering up her tits sometimes, etc. Who knows, and again, who cares.
BornShook 7y ago
Women wear revealing clothing to show off their tits. Women like muscular guys. Women want to impress muscular guys. Women want to be dominated by masculine men.
Assuming all of these red pill facts are true, logically this would make no sense. Maybe youre just either ugly, weird looking, or creepy, and stand out too much in a crowd. Or maybe this is all in your head.
It could just be shark week in your town too lol
ahp22trc 7y ago
Many woman when seen by a man they find attractive become self conscious and think "Why is he looking at me? Is my cleavage to low? So some times they either cover or just touch near the cleavage area to feel how low it is.
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 7y ago
If you are in good shape and are good looking I would say they are intimidated and feel insecure. Unless OP is just sticks and is actually ugly or disgusting in some way.
rubydachurro 7y ago
Yeah I’ve wondered about that. I remember a girl in one of my classes where we had to have a group discussion and we were sitting across from each other facing one another, would pull on her clothes to cover up her chest a little while I was talking to her. But I also would see her look at me from across the room too so I don’t know.
Gettingaware 7y ago
This is a good thing. On the surface. You are being rejected. But underneath all of this points a broader story.
You are on the "sexual" radar of every woman basically. These women may be rejecting you. But no matter what they do notice you, and youd much rather be noticed then not. What does patrice o' neal say, piss a woman off, make her mad, just dont bore her.
You should try and game them, if you find one attractive, because it can only help you case.
Let me explain, these woman see you as male in the sense that, your a fuckboi or cad, they have now put up a guard. They created the sexual tension, your attempt to escalate and tear down their guard, is playing into their fantasy.
Most women wont go for it. Who cares better to play the role and develop the frame by practicing on women who see you as youre trying to be seen.
Pokeylaw 7y ago
Is it really a good thing tho? I'm in college and Ive been noticing this when girls are around me we'll get to talking about whatever in a happy go lucky mood then boom they start zipping everything up and sitting in ways that don't show as much of anything. Basically every girl around here wears straight booty shorts
Gettingaware 7y ago
What im saying is, if a woman you never met before, at first glance, overtly covers herself up, or outright rejects you instantly, its a shit test. Truely uninterested women look right through you like you dont exist.
But to what your asking... It sounds like these girls are initially receptive to you, but when you start talking they close off. Thats actually the opposite, women who give IoIs and then leave you scratching your head once they got your attention, which is all they really wanted anyways.
Either that or you are really turning them off, i cant say for certain. but know almost always when i think i did well and got a phone number, they dont even answer, ever.
Wolveryn 7y ago
I found the opposite to happen, when I'm looking good and I've had a good workout, they damn near flash me their tits.
Jailhouseredpilled93 7y ago
You are probably just more aware and observant of women so you're noticing even women who aren't into you. Stick to the ones who give iois. The ones that are covering are NOT in to you.
RandomTRPan0n 7y ago
OP, take to heart what all these other experienced guys are saying ...
Give yourself a hard assessment, ask q friend for an honest assessment...
CalvinRichland 7y ago
Dress nice and smile
monkey_typist 7y ago
Covering boobs is definitely "not attracted to you". But you can't expect all women to find you attractive. That just does not happen. And there are women out there that specifically do NOT like the "muscle" look.
My guess is this is because you are more noticeable now, to both women that find you attractive, and women that don't find you attractive. It's both your new physique, and your attitude due to your physique, that catches their attention. The worst place to be is to be invisible. You certainly improved in that aspect, kudos.
With that said, you have to decide if it's still worth chasing being "more attractive" in this type of "eyeballing a stranger" scenario. The Internet rules are true, 1) be attractive, 2) don't be unattractive. But it does give you diminishing returns.
I wouldn't worry about it. Like I said, I attribute this to you getting more attention from everyone in general. And that is a good thing.
That's my take on this.
thisiswhyicant 7y ago
I agree with your assessment of the situation. Maybe OP gained confidence and expected more positive attention from women, and not getting it is messing with his head. I wouldn’t worry about it because like you said, not everyone is attracted to everyone.
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thisiswhyicant 7y ago
What is sounds like is they’re intimidated / confused by the new sexual attraction they feel towards you and their first reaction is to get defensive because they’re caught off guard. Honestly man this might be a good sign! Before they didn’t care if you looked because in their mind, they didn’t see you as being a sexual interest. Now that they see you that way, they’re more self conscious. It appears to be a good sign of you making progress. I recently dropped 50 pounds in the last 4 months so I’m noticing subtle ways women I’ve known for a while act different. So it’s learning curve for me too. Keep up the progress, you’re headed in the right direction.
red_matrix 7y ago
Girls show off their assets to men they want to 'fornicate' with, this is usually high testosterone men.
Andorli 7y ago
Source?
red_matrix 7y ago
Go to any nightclub in the world and observe how women dress and act.
Andorli 7y ago
U said usually high test men, so what you are saying is women can somehow smell or determine test levels? Any study done to show that women put their ass unconsciously towards high test men? I know that bunch of neckbeards going to downvote this because it goes against their narative. But stop speaking out of ur fucking ass will ya (no pun intended) . Observe clubs? That's your source? Anywhore, not worthy arguing over, go do some test injections bruh, but be careful, or like a magnet all women will involuntary turn their asses towards you when you walk in the street , can cause mayhem. Must be a bitch when you sit at dinner table with your mom and sis since they will have to face away from the table because of all the testosterone that just gravitates their asses towards you...fucking lol.
red_matrix 7y ago
Here you go soy boy: Hypergamy
Also - read the fucking side bar. Don't get mad at me because you can't handle the truth. Read the Book of Pook and then come back and ask some questions. I'm not trying to be a dick, that video I linked should explain a lot.
Andorli 7y ago
Yeah I clearly can't handle the truth like you who is true alpha who by having 5000 ng/dl test fornicates with copious amounts of femoids every day. Oh well better go drink more soy and masturbate to women rotating their posterior to alphas.
red_matrix 7y ago
What's your problem? Do you see women going after skinny neckbeard losers or jacked dudes? What do you see in reality?
Andorli 7y ago
My problem is how delusional you are and the advice you give. Obviously hypergamy is real, obviously af/bb, however stating ridiculous bullshit like women rotate their ass towards men based on their t levels is stupid af based on nothing but anecdotal evidence. If you take traditional dance techniques over couple centuries you will see that you are wrong. Nobody denies truths of redpill but it is good sometimes to get out of echo chamber and see the world from all sides not just red and blue.
red_matrix 7y ago
I never said any of that. I said women dress like sluts and go for high T/alpha like men. AF/BB. You see it in night clubs - that was one example. You disagree? Prove it. Why are you so angry?
Gruss_p 7y ago
I have never seen this, you must be pretty ugly dude.
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waynebradysworld 7y ago
Did you know that 85% of female rape victims report climaxing during the rape?
I think this is because their lizard brain (subconscious) is turned on by the thought of being overpowered and taken by strong ruthless men. That was reality for women for thousands of years, and still is reality in much of the non-white world today in 2018.
Have you considered this ties in to covering the chest/feeling vulnerable/getting wet around intimidating men?
hirokinae 7y ago
Just a heads up, don’t bother with this one.
I responded to another guy here; This guy majored in “international relations” and is 40k in debt struggling to look for a job. He’s a bad troll, he’s a shitty person who reads and purports to understand trp yet at the same time is mad because his life is shit so he funnels the anger here and calls it mysogonistic one second then professes alpha the next. He not a troll, he’s just too stupid to know that he’s an idiot. He lies about how much he makes as a “joke”
He won’t argue or offer counterpoints and evidence to you; he’s just going to scream that Hes right because feelings and he knows things. Don’t bother.
Case in point: awhile back he posted a cringey post to /r/niceguys then spent a ton of time role playing as a nice guy, complete with the fedora and m’lady talk. But don’t worry, it was just a joke for fun... he’s got a lot of free time on his hands.
BornShook 7y ago
Read the sidebar. You have no idea what youre talking about.
Women want to be overpowered. Most of them have some kinky fantasies just like us guys do. Yes they dont want to get raped by some dirty bum off the street, but they would love to be plowed by an attractive muscular/masculine man.
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HotWaffler 7y ago
You claim that TRP is "alt-right" yet you recommend someone to check it out...
Yet I'm the troll? Stay intellectually consistent for 10 minutes dude my god...
BornShook 7y ago
The majority of the EC's on trp are liberals. Not worth debating with someone who denies everything this community is about though. Go to purplepilldebate if you want to be that one guy.
Also thats a very convienient excuse for being out of shape. I dont advocate for steroid use or any of that, but why not get as big and muscular as you naturally can? There is no excuse for being a no gainz having tshirt wearing sissy
xddm2653 7y ago
yea then why is 50 shades of grey absolutely arousing to every woman?
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It is a fantasy, but I think for women it stays there. There are subreddits dedicated to women to discuss rape-fantasy.
HotWaffler 7y ago
Yeah I bet they tell you to be yourself too
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HotWaffler 7y ago
You ask a woman how to attract women. You get lied to and brushed off nicely with "just be yourself". They're not telling you the truth regardless. So the whole intimidation thing is BS. An old friend of mine is an ugly son of a bitch that cycles regularly but he has made himself so approachable that even he does well in the market. Chances are OP is giving off a certain vibe that is not welcoming. Or he is staring at their tits and sticks out so much that they cover their tits.
omega_dawg93 7y ago
iow, you don't ask a deer how to hunt deer.
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HotWaffler 7y ago
Eh ok.
Edit: saw one of your comments about "sexism" then also saw this little juicy number:
At least we got the hypocrisy out of the way.
monkey_typist 7y ago
Actually, you are. If you disagree, offer counter point, continue the discussion. Worse case is everyone agree to disagree.
One of the easiest counter point here is this is anecdotal evidence. It doesn't prove your point either, it's more of a "I hear your counter point, but you need to try a different angle".
Yet, you offer no counter point, not even this low-hanging fruit, and just call troll? It's pretty pathetic.
Thunderfin 7y ago
lol
hrm0894 7y ago
Jesus. So this is what trp has devolved to? Unqualified betas giving stupid anecdotes as advice? If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, don't spew out bullshit. You haven't even grasped one of the simplest TRP concepts: "don't listen to what they say, watch what they do", and you're out here calling someone a troll for stating why you shouldn't get advice from women.
Before commenting stupid shit, read the sidebar and internalize it. Until then, leave the advice to actual veterans.
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omega_dawg93 7y ago
this is bullshit.
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omega_dawg93 7y ago
don't quit your day job.
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TheRedLadle 7y ago
Even if you do, you obviously have no life if you're going around trolling on the internet. Maybe quitting your job would help with that
hirokinae 7y ago
Lolol. The guy majored in “international relations” and is 40k in debt struggling to look for a job. He’s a bad troll, he’s a shitty person who reads and purports to understand trp yet at the same time is mad because his life is shit so he funnels the anger here and calls it mysogonistic one second then professes alpha the next. He not a troll, he’s just too stupid to know that he’s an idiot.
He won’t argue or offer counterpoints and evidence to you; he’s just going to scream that Hes right because feelings and he knows things. Don’t bother.
TheRedLadle 7y ago
That I can believe far quicker than him being on 6 figures a month.
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hirokinae 7y ago
Haha. You’ve already been outed as a liar and the only person who thinks your brand of dumb humor is funny is you.
Goodluck finding that job though. With your personality it’s gonna be rough. You’re more disrespectful to women than anyone here with your “jokes”.
I understand that you have a lot of free time being unemployed but hopefully you at least get a little better at trolling. I think there’s a sub that can show you how to maximize your downvotes; when you’re lying try to make the lies a little more outrageous.
Thunderfin 7y ago
Nah, it's so ludicrous I find it funny too
AshyBoneVR4 7y ago
So I'm finally starting to get visibly bigger (Guys, if you haven't been working on your Lats... stop doing everything else, and start doing pull ups). I don't really give a fuck about finding a LTR anymore so I talk to every chick like they're just another bro. I'm not saying I'm body builder status, but I'm 6'6", 204 with 11.4% body fat. I'm pretty decently built and it's starting to show under my clothes. I've noticed women will flaunt their goods in front of me more. Whether its puffing their chests up, sticking their ass out, or just smiling or staring at me, it's happening more.
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