I've been on TRP since mid-2015, having a lot of results and experiencing things I thought I'd never have for me. I agree wholeheartedly with its principles that do not sugarcoat people
However, I'm now at a 3-month LTR with a girl I vetted pretty well (never gave any problems but far from a unicorn) and my fucking beta side is screaming at me. I'm a pretty good catch (21, lifting and soon to be a doctor) and this girl is already saying we should marry in two - three years. Fuck, how do I handle this?
And I'm even having these children-marriage-house thoughts on my head
pls help

fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 7y ago
This bitch is gonna get pregnant and take all your doctor money.
iskandph 7y ago
what's even funnier is that she's even planning on it
I'll finish med school in about two years and she's saying she can finish her major while pregnant
Docbear64 7y ago
Is that funny? knowing she's waiting for you to punch her ticket to easy street? It's good now because let's be honest you could dump her tomorrow and outside of some heart ache you'll be ok. when you two have had a baby and legally you two are considered one entity I don't think haha will be your first response.
Taco_Truck_Aficionad 7y ago
RED FLAG. Do you see it waving?
Plus you're only 21. Do you realize that you will be a completely different person at age 24? And at age 26? And at age 30? You and her will both change a lot.
Nomfwic 7y ago
If you know shes planning it and stay with her then you should reconcider your life choices man.
flatox 7y ago
You know whays going on. So you deserve whats coming to you, when you do nothing.
WoodWizzy87 7y ago
Condom and pull out man. You don’t need a kid right wh n finishing med school...
PeopleHateThisGuy 7y ago
You're 21 and you're half way through med school?
iskandph 7y ago
I got inside pretty early actually
iskandph 7y ago
I got in at 17
losttalus 7y ago
That's what I am questioning.
Either he is not American or in a rare BS/MD joint program, or lying and is pre-med. lol
iskandph 7y ago
yeah, I'm from Brazil
fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 7y ago
Yeah. This girl is going to lock you down (or try). If she’s not doing it now with the dirtiest of sex, she’ll try a different way.
iskandph 7y ago
both actually
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Captain_Sorbo 7y ago
3 months is not an ltr
Merwebb 7y ago
LTR and 3 months are mutually exclusive. You are just getting to know her and banging her exclusively.
That said, now is the time to either run, or acknowledge that you want those things too even if is just a 3 month relationship with a woman you are getting to know and is "mentioning" marriage after only 3 months of a relationship with a guy she is barely getting to know.
iskandph 7y ago
shieeeeeet
gonna be looking into her eyes differently today
SeamusAwl 7y ago
Good, what you should see is her vision of your potential as a high status beta provider.
iskandph 7y ago
surprising enough she's on med school as well
so she wouldn't have much of a need of a provider
damn
Captain_Sorbo 7y ago
Who do female doctors marry? What about nurses? They marry doctors.... Whether or not she needs a provider is irrelevant. Go read the basics again.
Captain_Sorbo 7y ago
If you got the cash put some swimmers on ice and get a vasectomy . See how long it takes her to get pregnant.
BurnieSlander 7y ago
Marry her and have a kid as soon as possible. Then when you get divorced at age 25 and have to give her half your shit, you’ll come back, actually read the sidebar, and be the most red-pilled motherfucker alive
[deleted] 7y ago
Tu Bhartiya hai teri Angrezi se lag rha hai aur jis tarah se tune doctor likha hai
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purplevein2 7y ago
Bro I was encouraged by my ex to become a doctor ! She also was very self-centered. You see how the logic doesn't work? STOP everything right now and Read the manipulated man by Esther something. It's free online. First few pages are enough to give you harsh crude raw insight over what goes on the minds of women like your gf. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND what's going on the pussy is taking over your mind.
imboredofitall 7y ago
My mother was a doctor and was dead-set on me never dating during high school and even into college. Seriously, she’d sabotage every opportunity she could outright. Come to learn that the reason she did all that, aside from being a controlling person, was that she had seen time and time again, a girl locking down a medical student, hoping to be married to a doctor. She told me that without fail, every guy would fail out of the program. You’re 21? There’s a whole lot of study and practice ahead of you... My cousin is now a full blown doctor, was near top of her class and she confirmed what my mother had told me. If she gets pregnant or is a distraction, you (considering the odds) will fail or drop out of the program. No joke. You fail out and she’s pregnant, she’ll hate you for being a failure. It’ll be her way or being a doctor.
W_O_M_B_A_T 7y ago
Relax.
You're free to change your mind any time in the next couple years if she starts losing interest. Women aren't that rare. Don't get caught up in Sunk-cost considerations. If the relationship is good, NOW, then you should keep investing now.
You're the gatekeeper of commitment. You have the power to ignore, disregard, and walk away at absolutely any time.
Act like it.
iskandph 7y ago
Yeah
My argument towards this it LTR is that I don't really have the time to be spinning plates
I live alone and 1200km away from my family and med school is already taxing enough on me
However to enter a LTR nowadays is a basically a punch to the stomach when you know TRP
this sucks
W_O_M_B_A_T 7y ago
Scarcity Mentality. You're not a victim, especially not of your own relationship.
Stop thinking like you are. The person who is punching you in the stomach is yourself.
You're the captain of your relationship. You know what is the best course for you. Demand the relationship provide value to you.
lsarcreator 7y ago
What fuck-fuck-fuck said. Drop her before you fuck yourself over. Your trying to become a doctor and she sees your potential, she sees that she is amidst a gold mine.
Last time I checked nobody here is condoning a young man in his early 20's to hop into LTR's, only to gain power and max out their SMV. You should be spinning plates, maximum. Riding solo, minimum. LTR is out of the equation for you man, your focus cannot be on this girl when you have an opportunity like this in front of you.
After you complete everything, if you still wish to pursue her then go ahead, but right now you are only hurting yourself. I can almost guarantee you that with the path you are on someone better will come around in the future.
Your choice though.
iskandph 7y ago
I'm probably trying to be captain-save-a-hoe now
Funnily enough I've spent about 75% of med school in LTRs
lsarcreator 7y ago
"if you are happy with the level you’re at then that’s good for you, your personal ambition is satiated, but this is focused on those who want to be at the top, the mega ambitious, those who lust for the trappings of power.
Women being the liabilities that they are will bring nothing but expectation, drama and undue stress to your life that will do nothing but hamper, impede and hold back your efforts to improve yourself – why even set yourself up for the responsibility that is maintaining a relationship with a woman when you’re not even the man you want to be yet? That’s fine when you’re in your 30’s looking to start a family and already have a power base built up from the graft, sweat and experience of your virile 20’s, but firstly you need to build that power base so that your 30’s are enjoyable, not just another decade along the path of a meaningless life culminating in a worthless death."
Lesson in there.
iskandph 7y ago
this is deep
Aggressive_Beta 7y ago
Obviously don’t get married. And the fact that she’s only been your LTR for 3 months and is already talking about wanting to marry you is a yellow flag at least. She’s trying to lock down your doctor money.
You don’t owe her marriage just because she’s fucking you and you committed to her. You’ve already given her your commitment and that should be enough. Sooner or later, Disney Princess is going to have to realize that if she wants a wedding, that you’re not her Disney Prince and she will need to find another guy if she wants a wedding. If she ends up leaving you over that, all that says is that she wasn’t serious about your relationship (or a marriage with you for that matter) and just wanted a wedding and/or the option to divorce rape you.
Either way, by eventually letting her know your feelings about marriage, you dodge a bullet. You can’t lose.
You don’t have to be a dick about it, but sooner or later she’s going to have to find out that you plan on never getting married. She probably will throw a fit and try to guilt trip you by talking about how she’s been planning her wedding since she was 3. Don’t be captain save a ho. Holding frame will be absolutely crucial, and she will reward you for it in the long run.
[deleted] 7y ago
I have no idea how you've been reading TRP for close to 3 years and still have to ask this.
iskandph 7y ago
neither do I
chazthundergut 7y ago
You skipped a necessary step in the process:
Spin Plates
RAiderNat88 7y ago
GET OUT!
mmrxt 7y ago
Dont do it. I'm 42 been there done that, have 2 kids and a divorce if you dont feel it , dont even think about it
Crespius66 7y ago
Well shes already calling the shots and you're screaming for help.
Just fucking say no. "Babe, its been amazing 3 months but I'm not thinking about the future, much less about marrying."
DirtyBastard13 7y ago
Red flags everywhere here, you'd think this story took place in russia or china. You're about to run honey covered dick first into a minefield filled with bees who rape men up the ass. It's a trap. Marraige is a horrible idea. I've got five steps for you.
Step one, drink about two shots of whiskey. Step two, take a cold (As cold as you can get it shower). Step three, hit your head against the wall (25- 50 times should do it.) (I'd slap some sense into you personally but I'm probably not close enough).
Step four, read or reread The Predatory Female and The Manipulated Man
Step five, dump her.
YasserZe 7y ago
It's a divorce rape waiting to happen
fnordsnord 7y ago
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vandaalen 7y ago
http://archive.is/yxzC1
http://www.francoseduction.com/neediness-management-2/
http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/03/11/nine-steps-to-avoid-neediness-and-oneitis/
iskandph 7y ago
fair enough
LoE666 7y ago
Thanks for the nice reads.
lovs2spuge 7y ago
She's not the one, she's not special, its just your turn.
I have never been in a LTR so take what I say with a grain of salt - but I would just deflect any of those statements and diffuse any talk of that sort of stuff whenever she makes it.
If marriage is a goal of yours, keep in mind your thoughts from your post. 21, lifting, soon to be doctor. you are the prize. she should be afraid to lose you.
iskandph 7y ago
It's hard to understand this one since she's been the healthiest relationship I've had ever since I met TRP
Ivabighairy1 7y ago
How many relationships have you had since finding TRP
chasebandz01 7y ago
stop dude.
you're gonna get married, become a complacent bitch, but not before she gets a kid or two out of you. then she's gonna get bored because you're too busy being a doctor. then she'll divorce you and take half your income through alimony and child support.
live for yourself. if you are a doctor making six figures id argue getting a vasectomy would be a smart move. just reel in prime nurse puss, hit it raw, and laugh when they try to say you got them pregnant.
smirk_addict 7y ago
If he wants kids, well i don’t know what to tell him. He’ll be a target for any woman looking to settle down and have the status of being married to a doctor(and then divorce him). But if he doesn’t want kids, your advice is excellent.
losttalus 7y ago
Why does everyone jump to divorce here? lol
That's mostly a white people thing. It doesn't happen in Middle Eastern and South Asian cultures.
smirk_addict 7y ago
It’s mostly a western culture thing. I guess our women are the most entitled and selfish. But everyone has their own set of problems. Middle eastern and south Asian cultures often have terrible marriages, they just don’t believe in divorce. That’s why a lot of men who grow up in those cultures become neurotic overachievers who have no idea how to manage their emotions and can only show anger and discipline to their wives and children.
Austinisfullgohome 7y ago
I’ve read your post and all your replies up to this point. There’s one of two things happening here. Either she’s a marriage-minded woman who is verbalizing her goals to you or she’s just trying to tie you down because $$$.
Unless you get a real unicorn+best friend feel from her (NOT oneitis), I’d assume the worst—if for no other reason than to protect yourself financially and emotionally. Do not assume she will change for the better. If she’s absolutely amazing and does nothing but improve your life she may be a keeper. But she won’t magically turn into a good wife just because you put a ring on her finger.
I know I doesn’t seem like it now but you will have tons of options as a young doctor. Marriage should be very far from your mind, especially while still in school. I’d say late 20s at the absolute earliest, if at all. Being a doctor opens so many doors (and legs). You’re going to kick yourself when you’re 38 and the new interns are creaming their scrubs for you while you go home and try not to piss off the 300 lb missus.
My gut tells me if you wife her you’ll be depressed and/or divorced by 40. But it’s your life and your decision.
LiveBetterDaily 7y ago
She sees the potential and is tryna lock you down, insecurities if you will. You can either be a man and tell her what you expect from your life or be a mouse and go with what she wants. You know what to do.
WoodWizzy87 7y ago
EJECT EJECT EJECT. This is simple, ask her why she wants to get married???? She flap out some bullshit about wanting marriage and she was raised that way and some more blah blah blah. It’s all what someone else told her.
Stop thinking about “we”. We have been a couple, “we” should get married. “I/we” should have kids.
She’s along for the ride. Figure out what “I want”.... can you picture Martina this chick regardless of how much you love her yada yada. It’s time to reflect and back away. She wants money, she’s already planning how to spend yours lol. Damn right she’ll be a stay at home mom. It’s not malicious yet, but give it 5 years
Rayvinne 7y ago
I sifted through the comments, I saw people pretty much telling you to nip this in the bud, to run away as fast as you can, that making plans for marriage and kids after a 3 month relationship while being in your early twenties is a huge red flag... yeah, I could not agree more. Run Forrest, RUNNNN!