If you're a bux but not a mega fucking beta (you have boundaries, self respect, don't tolerate shit) and a girl has a shot at acquiring you, why wouldn't she hamster you into alpha bucks, simply for her own satisfaction?
Supposedly alpha bucks doesn't exist because women can't see a dude as the alpha and the bux at the same time.
Plenty of women hamster their broke loser dude into an alpha if they choose to. Why wouldn't this extend to someone with cash?
RedSkeller 8y ago
Pretty sure women are so short sighted they can't fathom a situation without inevitably shooting themselves in the foot. The only thing that kept them in line before was social conditioning which, in the age of lowering the bar, is quite absent.
Cash used to be a more valuable asset, but there are so many comforts of modern society, no one is afraid of being left out in the cold, there is big brother government, beta orbiters, family and friends that would gladly take Ms.Live-in-the-Moment in. On top of all that, being alpha bucks is almost a hypocrisy since you would need crazy wealth to set yourself apart from the mass of mediocrity. Ultimately, the times have dictated we are all floating through pseudo relationships of casual sex and validation, women though will bounce between beta and alpha without ever having both in one person.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Guy A (dude I know) suddenly runs into money. He isn't a pussy slayer. He's just a normal dude and would always drop any girl at the moment of disrespect. Very clear boundaries. He wants pussy but doesn't need it.
He meets girl A who finds him alpha enough to be his gf. He runs the show.
The moment she finds out he has this cash, what's gonna happen?
UncleWarwick 8y ago
No one fucking knows what’s going to happen because it isn’t some magical line in the sand equation. It’s dependent on what the guy is really about.
Money is a force multiplier if you have game. Girls can’t hamster you into something if you don’t allow yourself to become that thing. “Beta bucks” only happens because guys think they have nothing to provide to girls except being a provider. So they throw money and dinners and shit and girls treat them as such.
This whole question is bad and shows you clearly don’t understand any of this shit.
You should strive to become as successfully as humanly possible in all areas of your life. Life live on your own terms. It doesn’t matter if I have $10 dollars or $10 million dollars. I’m going to treat girls the same, and if they’re throwing up red flags in their behavior for whatever reason, I’m going to drop them like it’s hot.
Because. I life live on my own terms. Not theirs. You’re playing my game or you’re not playing with me.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
So you didn't answer the question? Ok
And yeah TRP is basically all about turning female behaviour into equations. That's exactly how I look it and many others on here.
Do you have a personal guess to what might happen? Or do you want to lose frame again and ignore the clearly laid out question that already answers most of the points you made.
UncleWarwick 8y ago
No, TRP is the discussion of men’s sexual strategy.
You’re the one who’s decided to try to turn life into a giant equation. Life doesn’t work like that. Yeah - to get technical - there’s an underlying science behind everything. But to understand and apply it - well that’s an art form. And you will run into a brick wall time and time again until you understand this.
I don’t have a guess because I don’t know the guy and can’t speak to his character. If it was me, then all I know is that I’d start screening harder to make sure my girls are behaving properly and sticking around for the right reasons.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Not sure you understood the question. I'll clarify.
How would the girls behaviour change once she finds out her AF partner has money?
Metalageddon 8y ago
Pretty sure he told you, but I'll try.
It depends on him. If he keeps firm boundaries and self respect, he'll keep her in line.
If he doesn't, she'll probably begin slacking.
Depends on him, depends on her too.
It really comes down to, if he had self respect and boundaries she either is gone or stays good.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
So the money has absolutely no effect on the relationship? Really? Not sure I buy it.
suitcasecity 8y ago
Go read more and come back. You can explain it yourself to us after
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
I've read plenty for 2.5 years. Why don't you tell me the answer?
TheRedPillMonkey 8y ago
Alpha fucks and beta bucks describes not just the intent, but the dynamic. She wants to fuck the alpha and get bux from the beta, sure. If her alpha is loaded, she will certainly want bux from the alpha as well.
However, the terms define the dynamic of the beta only providing bux, only desired for the bux, and giving the bux while receiving absolutely no fucks. The alpha is desired for the fucks, providing the good fucks, and receiving good fucks. If he's rich, he's providing any bucks on his terms and not because he thinks it will keep her happy.
In other words: beta bux are from betas who are providing flowers, jewelry, dinners, and other monetary gifts in the hopes of sleeping with a chick, but never doing it. She keeps him around to continue to receive high financial value for low to no sexual payout.
She's fucking the alpha because he's hot and the sex is good. If he's rich, there may be some side benefit to her, but he has demands, options, and abundance, so she has to work harder to be allowed to receive his benefits. She has a high sexual payout to benefit from his financial situation.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Great. Does her behaviour change after AF suddenly becomes AB?
TheRedPillMonkey 8y ago
You're still not getting it. Alpha bux is not a thing. It would imply she has frame which she doesn't with an alpha by definition. A rich alpha is just a higher SMV alpha. If her behavior changes at all, it's in line with how it would change with any higher SMV alpha.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Alpha bux is a term I have seen here countless times over the last two years. And yeah it just means rich alpha.
We're arguing about two different things here. I'm just using the term as a term and you're getting into what alpha and bux both mean together. Misunderstanding.
So your point is the money changes nothing in their dynamic. That's exactly what I was asking. Cheers
TheRedPillMonkey 8y ago
Valid. I'm glad you saw we are on different pages.
Yeah, money is just part of SMV. More money just means more smv. That's why "alpha bux" is a misnomer anywhere you read it because you really mean rich alpha which translates to higher SMV alpha. Money is like an easy score for a women to gauge smv. The general rules of alpha still mostly apply regardless if you have $100 or $1m. Because those rules still apply, it won't change her individual behavior, just attract higher HB women.
The only real difference is if you have a large bank account and enjoy nicer things, say fine dining. It's hard to ask her to pay for herself when she can't afford to do what you want to. You either have to do things she can afford or pay her way.
majestyalphaq 8y ago
"Broke loser dude" can be an alpha and still be broke. Alpha is a mindset, not your possessions. She can hamster that you're an alpha if you possess the attitude that depicts so
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
What about my second paragraph
majestyalphaq 8y ago
They can see it in 2 people at the same time. Alpha fux is just a term that indicates certain traits in a man that gives girls the tingles, hence whom she wants to fuck at all cost. A man can be both alpha fux and beta bux, and this is the best way a relationship can be actually ideal for two of you. Too alpha and she will leave you, need a little sprinkle of beta in it as well. However because of hypergamy, if you fuck up, and she comes across a better prospect, then yeah.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
That's how it should seem to me as well but I always see the concept of alpha bux destroyed on here over my 2 years of reading. Many stories of where dudes considered AF rehamstered into BB once they reveal they have money. Hence this question.
majestyalphaq 8y ago
If the guy is alpha + cash, its common sense that she will try her heart out to have him commit, BUT, if he won't she will still fuck him, since he's the complete package.
However, it will probably be harder since she sees potential in him, so more games. If the guy was broke but alpha, she's no use for him other than to fuck
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
This is exactly the opposite of what I've read extensively about. She will never fuck him until he commits (his bux) because once they have fucked, she has lost any leverage she has.
majestyalphaq 8y ago
Doubt so. If the man is an AF, he can just ditch her, get another girl. Most importantly, she knows this. Hence fucking is the pre-requisite for him to even consider commitment.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
The only power a woman has over a man, especially AF, is pussy. She just has to hope she made a good enough NAWALT impression on him so he will pursue her on her terms while she departs (but is actually just waiting).
UncleWarwick 8y ago
The only power a woman has over a man is drumroll absolutely fucking nothing.
And that’s why it’s so incredibly satisfying to be a man.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Incredible insight sir. Do you have any books I can order?
[deleted] 8y ago
I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here but alpha fux & beta bux are for the most part mutually exclusive.
youcantdenythat 8y ago
Alpha bucks are rock stars and movie stars and wealthy CEOs.
Women do want these guys, but they are out of most girls' league.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
What does that have to do with my hypothetical question?
youcantdenythat 8y ago
I'm explaining that your assumptions are wrong. Alpha bucks is indeed a concept that's been talked about here for years. It's the ultimate goal for a woman to nail one down. They are generally celebrities and very powerful men.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Unless it completely voids the question then it's not answering the question.
Improbability =/= impossibility
youcantdenythat 8y ago
trolloolol
[deleted] 8y ago
This hurts my brain what the fuck am I reading. Omega? This can extend to someone with cash; it matters how you approach the situation.