Many a RP men say sales is a great place to use and hone a lot of trp skills. I have been looking on google and lots of jobs want experience or degrees in sales(have neither). Any advice on what company to join or places I have not looked yet or entry level jobs you started at. My money game is weak and that must change. Live in Northern California. Thanks in advance
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LogicalBrah 8y ago
I started my sales career in retail. Went from TVs to cell phones. Cell phones to websites and web advertising. Websites to in home sales. I’m 29 and started when I was 18. In home sales you can easily make $100k, many making $150k and beyond just selling HVAC, windows, remodeling, siding, roofing etc. A good company will give you 3 leads a day; great fucking gig.
My company for example will hire any great salesman regardless of previous industry - if you can sell you can sell anything. Most companies think like that also so don’t get to focused on selling any one thing. Take a entry level job that you feel will train you the best. Avoid ponzi schemes and be your own boss type of jobs, they are all a scam.
I’ve helped a few guys looking to get into sales from the sub, feel free to ask more questions or PM me.
ldamien65 8y ago
Would you consider sales recruitment a worthy field to get involved in?
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Putins_Orange_Cock 8y ago
I’m a commossion only headhunter. I made 26k this month. Recruiting is hugely profitable, but not for the faint of heart
The top producer in my office made half a million last year, and he recruits only sales peolpe.
THESkipp 8y ago
I started a shit kicking sales role in super markets demonstrating different products. Since have sold -
Forklifts.
Spas/hot tubs
Construction PPE, equipment and signage
Housing insulation
In two week I’ll start my first official account manager role selling in the civil construction industry and will be on 6 figures with a company car and normal crap with it. I’m 24 and have NO qualifications, lucky for me I can sell ice to a Eskimo.
My advice is sell something you enjoy OR target people you enjoy working with. I enjoy working with builders, contractors Etc. I get along with them as that’s what my family are like. I just get to make the same money and do very little physical work.
EDIT - something that I have told people I have trained. Sales is a piss easy job. If you work harder/smarted and are more modivated you will ALWAYS out sell the gifted salesman who is lazy. You don’t NEED ‘the gift’ to be a great salesman, just the mind set.
TheRedPillMonkey 8y ago
Most of sales is about selling yourself. Companies do business with the rep they like the most almost over price.
That's to say: if you can't sell yourself to an employer, you're probably not going to be good at sales.
To start, find an entry level job and grind it out. Usually it'll be a job with a ton of cold calling and lots of rejection. Lucky to get 1 in 100 cold calls to even listen. These are usually entry level sales or business development jobs.
That or a few industries require little experience in sales, as long as you know the industry. Lots of bar backs become bar tenders, become bar managers, who get recruited to sales for the local alcohol distributor.
UEMcGill 8y ago
In sales we say people buy from "who they like"
Ill_Will7 1 8y ago
I am in a craft beer/ homebrew club and we do events and judge beer and what have you. So i have some experience in that field. I have always wanted to be a bartender and never would have thought you could go from bartender to sales for alcohol distributor.
UEMcGill 8y ago
I have an engineering degree and an MBA. I'm in what many would consider the high end of sales, capital sales, with long lead times.
I had 15 years of experience in my degree field and engage in technical sales; I have to know what my customers are talking about. I have 11 years in sales now. There's probably 10-20 guys doing what I do in the US.
In my business there's usually 2 paths to where I am. The first I described, the second is taking more and more advanced sales positions.
I had a colleague who did that. Started as a painter, then sold paint pumps, then industrial pumps, until eventually he got to where he is now.
B2b sales are actually pretty easy to get into but that's because there's a high turn over rate. What field are you I now? Find a sales related position that deals with that. Office monkey? Go find a copier company. Go in and tell them, "I don't know a thing. I know I want to sell. I will do anything around here to learn how to sell." The first sale you get will be selling yourself.
90% of B2b sales are being the guy that called when a customer had a need. You need to spend a butt load of time calling people and introducing yourself. You'll work for stuff, and then the customer will go with some else. In my business a 10% close rate is good.
I think Trp guys do well in sales because they've internalized that it's not personal, failure is not a negative, it's just another data point. Plus a lot of sales can be approached like game. Initially it can be formulaic and as you advance you'll learn how to make it subtle and elegant.
blister333 8y ago
Last paragraph is spot on. Both are a numbers game that you can’t take personally.
Ill_Will7 1 8y ago
I was working at a warehouse for the last 7 years and worked as a dominos pizza delivery guy for 1 year, last year. Found trp for other reasons and realized I want to do so much better for myself. im a decent looking thin guy and I am a good talker. I have a good grasp of frame these days and feel it is the perfect tool for good sales. Thank you for your reply
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Ill_Will7 1 8y ago
28/ fedex slave for 7 years & pizza delivery guy for 1 year, sort of sales, they taught me to upsale on the phone and i talked to atleast 25-35 different people in person daily. From hot college girls to shut in junkies. / Highschool diploma, and some directionless community college years ago
Moreofmore 8y ago
Start by picking something you think you’d like to sell with the type of payment structure that works for you, then you’ll find the companies after. Apply anyways, tons of people get in with different ways when you use creative reasoning.
Ill_Will7 1 8y ago
I could get behind any product I could honestly frame to myself as something that would help someone. But really Im not in a position to be picky at all. Would love to make commission as the rest of my life has been shitty hourly wages that promote you to be lazy and drag the clock out. Getting tips at Dominos was the most motivated I have been while working. Almost works like commission, But not consistent at all. You could be great to a customer and get nothing, or come late to someone drunk and they give you 20 bux on a $15 order
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Ill_Will7 1 8y ago
When you say retail, you mean like target or walmart?
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