In my younger years I attracted shitty friends by being a nice guy. I’ve stayed in the same city so these guys stayed with me. And I’m making leaps in my career so they resent me for it (which makes them that much more shitty)
I have many interests and hobbies, lifting, playing music, competition shooting, film etc (none of which they are into or dedicated at the least)
The guys who do make an effort with me from time to time get on my nerves and drain my energy. Not to mention some of them are snakes and aren’t genuine, they will make an effort with me for some other reason.
I have read the sidebar and most of the books. I still have nice guy traits, but I am making progress.
Maybe I’m just annoyed by everyone, but I do genuinely like people. Has anyone gone through this? How did you improve the situation? I’m 27 years old

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jakeyv123 8y ago
Respect and good luck to you bro! You will find the good things, let time and the willingness to do and be new things show you the way
RedPillFreedom 8y ago
I found that these guys aren't even my friends. They sit there all day. And that's it. Nothing else. You seem chill even when playing games but that's it. They're not really your friends. I found going out of my way for them didn't yeild equal benefit. Sucks cuz most of em played sports with me and used to go mtn biking back in the day.
It's good to have multiple friend groups. Most ppl playing fortnite these days which is cool. But, it's nice to just go to the field and play some soccer then get a meal. It's nice. Try to find some guys that are down to gym, sauna. Get some tennis racket, basketball, soccer ball. The park is awesome.
Even if you are solo. Check out the parks in your area. It's awesome man. I went to this one park and it felt like you were completely secluded in the woods like I was drag and dropped into some random woods on Google Earth.
The other thing I don't know you. But, don't let that feeling off being different because you changed hold you back from growth. You earned it. Aim for the Horizon. Don't look back. There are people out there putting in the work or similar to your ideal. Seems hard to believe they exist when you haven't met them. But, they are out there. And when you link up. It's fucking amazing.
Xevalous 8y ago
Get a manual labor job, if you can. You'll work and make friends with very red pilled people very quickly. Just don't be afraid to take shit, and dish it.
thatguywhatshisface 8y ago
Good on you man. Keep it up!
SteelRadiator 8y ago
Law 2
The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene and Joost Elffers
Pabsmanhere 8y ago
Reach out to a local proud boy chapter.
TheLegionnaire00 8y ago
Do what I did. Cut all the shitty friends from your life and tell them why you did it. I have one guy best friend and some girls( about 6) who I hang out with( girls are fun for a night out in a club, but nothing more than that) and that's it. Focus on yourself.
Moreofmore 8y ago
Solitude is a gift. Use it.
Mr_Badass 8y ago
I found most of my friends at the gym and almost all of them are doing some sort of self improvement.
MyFavoriteDude 8y ago
That sounds like really bad luck if everyone you meet in your various hobbies are shitty people. There are a lot of piece of shit people out there, but it is far, far from 100% of everyone but you.
I like to hike and I made some great friends doing that and I only met a handful of people who were bad and that I made a point to avoid. Of course I'm sure there were more than that, but I didn't become close friends with any that turned out really badly.
All I can say is be a better judge of character and don't waste time with people who are not cool. Cut them off quick and move on to the next person.
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StrongAffordance 8y ago
I’ve mostly given up on friends largely because men have been ruined by society. They’re only interested when they need something from me, and I make it a point never to rely on people. That makes it so any time I get a call or a message I know it’s someone asking for something. It’s a lonely life being red pilled, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
thatguywhatshisface 8y ago
Most men are bitches these days, mate. Majority are just as sneaky and full of shit as women lol
StrongAffordance 8y ago
Agreed. I’m also a social person and enjoy company but I can’t stand being around most men these days.
R41nmaker 8y ago
I’m 28, similar situation. I started using Meetup based on my interest. You should do the same and find like minded people (yoga, team sports, dancing, etc).
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meetup is the beez knees!! i always meet 2 or 3 cool dudes to chill with every time ... Gotten quite popular off that site tbh.
germancarfan 8y ago
Do people actually use it and show up and all that good stuff?
And is it usually socially awkward people only or ?
R41nmaker 8y ago
Try to go to the ones that are fairly active and meet every week as opposed to the ones that have only met once or twice in the past. I’ve found that the people are really nice, but it just depends on the group.
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Ive made incredible friendships because I connect with people on a deep level, and because I’m very social and always have fun shit going on.
But I really honestly don’t make friends so much as I make people into what I want them to be, essentially. People always always always enter into my frame, because I’m a very persuasive person with high emotional intelligence. Once they enter into your frame and you learn more about them and become closer, you can start to correct the shit they do that bothers you so that in the end you’re both better off.
So many people advocate for cutting people off, and in some situations you should, but I’ve found it’s much better to figure out why they are why they are and then help mold them into better people. I’ve done this a done and they’re all lifting now, more social and more self aware.
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Can u give some examples on how you molded them ?
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By pinpointing where their shitty annoying behavior comes from and helping them work through that insecurity. Helping people make positive changes and move forward isn’t so much “molding” them in the manipulative sense but more simply being a good friend and person which makes people love and respect you.
My friend was a fat slacker and would take his insecurities out on other people by taking shit way too seriously and over compensating to seem like the alpha big dog all the time. I got him into lifting and had some deep talks about what he wants and how he can get there and now he’s even more yoked than me and has a 4.0 at a great university.
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That’s awesome. My best friend since 5th grade I’m 22 now I can’t seem get to him no matter what I say. I can’t get him to stop watching porn 3 times a day or at least try going to the gym. I’ve reaped the benefits of these for more than a year and I’ve let him see how awesome my life got sleeping with 20+ girls this year and the muscle I’ve put on. He’s beyond BP maybe an incel. We haven’t talked in 3 years due to him flaking on me and him never hitting me up to do shit. He provided no value to me such as social prof, social circles, girls to be around, etc. He was there when I wanted to play fortnite. Sorry for the rant just want some perspective.
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Well you can lead a horse to water right? My highschool friends are more or less losers. They bring little to the table and I’m always the one making the plans and having them to defer to me. In college on the other hand, everyone pulls their weight. Everyone brings girls and everyone knows what’s good. That’s what you should expect from your friends.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Stop taking their calls is the first step. If they pop in, do not answer the door.
If they invite you somewhere, tell them you're busy. If they say "Busy doing what?" You tell them none of their business.
You don't owe these wankers anything, even a 'mannerly' response. They are working against your interests.
It sounds like you have a lot going on; you surely won't be lonely too long.
rad_dynamic 8y ago
You know a lot more people than you think. All the people you've been to school with or worked with are potential friends. Everyone is looking to improve their social circles, you need something to offer. You need to demonstrate value to one person, they will talk about you, and you're likely to be invited out the next time their group goes out if you made everyone had a fun interesting night.
Ill give you an example. I went out last weekend with a BP friend from high school. He's boring, fat, no friends and literally follows me around all night. I saw an OLD friend who I used to live next to when I was a kid in the club. We say hey etc and I asked if he had any fit mates. He was like hell yeah! He showed me them and I proceeded to game one of them and pull one. But also, I had a great time. I was dancing like I didn't care I even made sure to introduce my BP friend. I was sort of the faucet of fun that night. He is now super interested in being my friend, asking to meet up for casual drinks and a catch up. I firmly believe if I didn't pull one of his HOT friends and be a good laugh to be around, then he wouldn't have been half as interested.
StrongAffordance 8y ago
These aren’t friends. They’re just people you know. That’s not the same thing.
totallyAlphaguy 8y ago
My advice would be not to act like someone you aren't and look for the loners who look like they got their shit together. There are many people on the same boat as you. I joined a frat and had one on one talks with select few of the guys who I knew I had stuff in common with. I started my own nonprofit and invited them to help out and shoot the shit with them when drinking
SparkyMcGhee 8y ago
I cannot tell you how to find them, because it is different for everyone, I think. I can say this with absolute certainty, though:
--if you have to choose between having bad friends and no friends, definitely choose to have no friends
Make it your maxim.
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BJJ/MMA gyms (real ones, not mcdojos) are IMO a good place to find alpha men who are good to befriend. Training BJJ/MMA is also very beneficial for frame and confidence
causeandcorrelation 8y ago
Live to your values.
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meetup.com is my bread and butter. I've gotten quite popular off of that site lol you meet awesome people depending on your hobbies and your energy of course. At the end of the day meetup or not you'll just attract people with the same vibrational frequency as you, i don't know if you believe in that stuff but its real.