There are a few guys in my college that would undoubtedly be 'chads' by the definition. When they talk with other girls that they've never met before, these girls respond to them in a really nice manner and kind of respect them, let them touch, etc..
These people aren't really handsome by face or look like a male model, just a bit above average. Even I have a similar build and appearance as these guys but I never get the same reaction from girls. Why's this so and how would possibly I get the same reactions?
I mean the whole AF/BB thing would make sense when you interact with a girl through words, but these girls who don't even know these chads respond to them so well. Just confuses me so bad making me think I have some invisible marker over me that reads BETA that I can't see..

VasiliyZaitzev 9y ago
Millennia of evolution.
Ganaria_Gente 9y ago
OP accidentally pressed B
quicklogaccount 9y ago
These guys have body language, no quirks nor twitches. No signs of pedestalizing the way they speak as well. Add "female company", pre selection to that, and they'll be overtly approached.
Personally, the "way you talk" thing pisses me off. I'm used to speak correctly, to EVERYONE. Nerd issue. And WAY too many girls read this as artificial or telegraphing interest.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 9y ago
The best is how guys actually have to misspell words on purpose now (when texting), because to use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation implies too much interest.
Was having lunch with a female friend a while back, she had a fuck buddy rendezvous all set up for that night, got a text from him (right in front of me), rolled her eyes, blew him off. "Well THAT'S not gonna happen..." she said. I asked her what up, and she said something like "Yeah, everything's spelled correctly, he's obviously waaayyyy to into me." This was the first I'd heard of this (was a couple years ago), and, as a writer (who freaks out about typos), I was like "Umm... WHAT??!" Best part was, she admitted: she intentionally misspells words on purpose as well, so as not to telegraph too much interest on her end.
The whole thing is fucking retarded.
Note also: you must not capitalize the first letter of a sentence, EVEN THOUGH IMESSAGE WILL DO THIS FOR YOU. Seriously, you have to go back and manually de-capitalize the first word. Otherwise, too much interest.
And never use question marks: implies a rising tone at the end, which indicates lack of dominance. No questions, statements only.
It's all good though, I say. Pretty soon we'll revert to some kind of primitive monkey-esque emoji sign language at any rate.
purduered 9y ago
Something tells me that chicks been pumped and dumped one too many times.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
I actually had a chick saying I speak correctly to exert superiority.
This annoyed me so much I gave up. I mean, how would I change that?
empatheticapathetic 9y ago
I'm still working on everything but I realised this pre TRP. Purposely misspelling shit, her name, insisting my obviously incorrect spelling is correct. It's just part of game.
pridebrah 9y ago
It's petty idiocy, but it makes sense in a way since lazy grammar/typing generally shows a lack of care. You probably text your friends differently than you would your boss.
Even though it's retarded, delaying responses, being short, and lazy typing communicates you got better shit to do.
This of course doesn't fly with all chicks (the shitty grammar part, not delaying responses and not rambling), and I once knew a very intelligent traditional type of chick that thought anyone who couldn't formulate basic sentences/paragraphs in a text message with decent grammar was retarded and it was reflective of their IQ. Just gotta feel the situation out.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 9y ago
Yeah I could just never get on board with it (intentional misspelling etc). I quickly double-check all texts right before hitting send, if there's any kind of error--grammar, spelling, punctuation--it gets fixed. I'll occasionally use abbreviations ("Wyd" etc) but otherwise I like my shit airtight.
If I've lost girls because my "correct" texts implied too much need (and I probably have, seeing what I've seen now), fuck 'em. Seriously. That's not the kind of girl I want to give my time to anyway.
epistemic_humility 9y ago
Fuck what they think about the way you talk. Just speak and move through the world with confidence. It doesn't matter what other do or feel. Be Zen in your temple of confidence.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 9y ago
"These guys"
I'm here to say its all in your mind. Like everyone here, I've been practicing body language and just yesterday I moved into a new space of projecting body language.
Before, I might second guess my body language but now I can use my body language to "talk." I can let others know what I'm thinking without needing to say it out loud.
I should write a post about it.
FerociousOreos 9y ago
Yes, you should.
Ganaria_Gente 9y ago
im interested.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
Well, it's not in my mind. "These guys" exist, and it is body language. And I'm not saying it's something ethereal, I've experienced first hand the difference "confidence" makes without paying any attention to the change in my body language, enough times to notice a pattern.
And you should write the post.
What I'm skeptical about is hormones playing a role. At 30yo my T is over 800 (I never measured it before 28 but I assume it was bigger) and I've known quite a few men that have signs of high testosterone (the balding, jaw and hairy as fuck) and aren't Chaddish, while all Chads I can think of don't have abundant traits of it.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 9y ago
Right, my point being its entirely realistic to modulate your test through your actions. Test has a half life of 2-4 hours which means its fairly long lasting, unlike adrenaline with 2 minutes.
When you're pumping yourself up for a big lift, the physical/mental shift you feel, the change in your eye focus, increased heart rate, is your body upping its release of testosterone into your bloodstream.
Its possible to meditate into this, but that's what will be going into the post.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
Stupid high adrenaline runs in my blood too. This one I've been testing since I was a kid, it seems my whole family has it, men and women alike. If you ever heard of it, please share. lol
I never associated it with hormones, really. I suppose hormones might effect your behavior too, though.
I'm prone to assume it has to do with absence of anxiety. Maybe with laying a more natural vibe (something I can't seem to do naturally, many men have called me on it as well).
What comes is, when I'm in idgaf I notice a lot of difference. When I'm not I get the same results I used to get when I was like 20.
purduered 9y ago
When you are interacting with these females what it going through your mind? Is your motive and mindset on trying to attract women or get interest? Chads just go about communication with people naturally and don't really think about "is she into me". They generally assume attraction. Women are great at picking up on this. It's a level of confidence that is rare.
flashbang123 9y ago
You summed it perfectly.
AnjaJutta 9y ago
Here's something noone mentioned. Girls talk to each other. By the time high school Chad #23 approaches a girl, she already heard he is the captain of the football team and how he knocked out some other kid with a single punch. Reputation gives tingles.
[deleted] 9y ago
If you are above average looking and not awkward very few girls will respond badly.
empatheticapathetic 9y ago
High T and probably a perfect place in the personality spectrum. Not needy, interested, not too interested, good body language. A friend of mine is a natural alpha and never been 'that bothered' about women as they came to him so easily. Those traits are how I'd describe him.
vorverk 9y ago
You and me are naturally 10x stronger than women. We don't have to train hard or be exceptionally strong to arm wrestle or outrun (virtually) any female. It comes naturally.
Women, however, are 10x better at reading social cues and scanning for good alpha seed. They don't need to train their social intelligence, this comes naturally to them. Small mannerisms, the way they walk, the tone of voice, the reaction of others on them... They subconsciously read all that and they don't even know it.
pridebrah 9y ago
This. I've talked to some girls about this topic actually (how girls have a higher social IQ and sense in general). When you bring the topic up they'll say things like, "Really? I never really thought about it like that. I guess that's true..." It's definitely not something they discuss and ponder like we do here -- it just is.
The_BitterTruth 9y ago
Not 10 but about 3
vorenak 9y ago
Practice enough and you will be able to spot the exact moment when they start getting wet.
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
You probably don't have similar looks, but also confidence and charm counts for a lot and is communicated fast.
"detect chads" isn't really the phrase though. You think they are chads because girls find them attractive.
You really want to know WHAT it is that girls are finding attractive.
abdada 9y ago
Confidence and charisma is all it takes, but you can't fake either under pressure. Either you internalize both, or you're not a Chad.
El_Shakiel 9y ago
I'm prertty sure that somehow, to some extent, T-levels, hormones and other chemicals we have no control over do have an impact.
There was a (french) study about that, where females were asked to rate dudes on their physical attractiveness, and then blindfoldly rate their t-shirts worn for a day, based on smell/scent. Results were surprising. I'll update if I find it.
TomFoo 9y ago
Perhaps T-levels are higher for dudes with more muscle, less body fat, and these higher T-levels are coded into their sweat, thus women can pick up desirable mating partners just by smell alone.
Similarly I've also ready in the main sub how some guys can smell if a chick is ovulating.
wanderer779 9y ago
It's interesting to watch those YouTube videos where guys will go up and hit on girls. Most of the time the guys fail because of lack of confidence, but sometimes there's a guy who goes in and does everything right, but something about it just seems off. No matter what the guy does, it doesn't work. Another guy just seems smooth no matter what. It's hard to explain.
It would be interesting to do the same thing but instead of two different guys, use the same guy at different testosterone levels.
VasiliyZaitzev 9y ago
I think that may have been a German study, or at least I saw one that was.
Women preferred the smell of men who had different immune systems, because that would increase survivability of their offspring. The catch was, when they were pregnant, women prefer the smell of men who had similar immune system to them. Men who would be more likely to be relative, and therefore more likely to help a pregnant girl who they were related to, give food to her, and keep sabertooth tigers away from her, etc.
This creates a problem for women on the pill. They prefer the "wrong" type of man. Then they come off the pill to make a baby with hubby, and realize that the married the "wrong" guy.
Women on the pill are more likely to dig beta chubsters, then they want Chad when their eggs are in play. I've had a couple of girls break up with me after they went on the pill, so I think this is kind of funny.
failingtheturingtest 9y ago
Ovulation cycle counts as well. Similar studies showed that women preferred masculine traits and high testosterone when they were ovulating, feminine traits and low testosterone when on their period.
VasiliyZaitzev 9y ago
Very true. When they are ovulating women prefer Chad, and can convince themselves that he won't abandon them, will be a good father, etc.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 9y ago
I'm was never too big on the out-and-out "asshole" game, I can do it if you put a gun to my head (and sometimes I'll push a little bit in that direction of the situation warrants), but generally I'm much more about the chill / aloof game. Always did VERY well with women on the pill. Never heard about the study mentioned above but now it makes perfect sense. Good to know, will definitely be socking this info away for future use.
1v1mebruh 9y ago
Uncle V coming in clutch with the knowledge, thank you
[deleted] 9y ago
I look at the lake
VasiliyZaitzev 9y ago
Depends on whether keeping her as your gf is important enough or not.
Littleknownfacts 9y ago
I believe the results found that women rated men the most attractive when they had the least similar genetics (the mechanism revolved around the MHC). So the most attractive man was different for each woman, rather than all the women rating a few men most attractive.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 9y ago
That may be partially true, but we can modulate our T levels to a certain extent.
empatheticapathetic 9y ago
I'm very interested in this. Or do you just mean by lifting/eating fats/winning etc?
IIlllIllIIIllIl 9y ago
See my other response in this thread, I'm on mobile.
[deleted] 9y ago
I am going to Egypt
empatheticapathetic 9y ago
Going to look into ashwagandha
mordanus 9y ago
This is where they talk about confidence. Those guys believe in themselves and they do so because they have had lots of success in the past. Confidence is a sign to women that you are a winner because if you fail then you doubt yourself and are hesitant in your approaches and endeavors. If you are a failure you have no confidence.
So you need to have real confidence in yourself and not try to fake it. So go find things to succeed at and learn to not doubt yourself. Get experience winning and it changes you.
Toussant 9y ago
Pay attention to social proof. When I'm a lone wolf, people stay away. When I'm with others looking like we're having fun, people join us. We do the same thing and just not realize it.
FrameWalker 9y ago
Lol girls are way easier to fool than you'd think. Ive done itbyouve done it, many men lesser than either of us has done it. They use proxies for determining chad status. Learn the proxies and play the game.
joedevice 9y ago
How does a gazelle know it's in danger? It's all just comes naturally.
Jackrabbit710 9y ago
Because women only really fancy the top 20% of men, the rest might as well not exist in their eyes
BestSC86 9y ago
Women don't...they are driven to but really have no freaking clue.
Their cluelessness makes them make rash judgments\guesses based on a few traits and very little else. Unfortunately for women, those traits are nearly exactly the same between a real chad and a freaking asshole twat. Which is why so many women end up in relationships with insufferable jackwads whom abuse them for years. Of course then the women hamster for many of those years about how "he really isn't like that...", "he is really sweet when not provoked...." and the rest.