It has only just hit me that I am not part of the average 'members' of red pill. Quite hard to explain but for a while I thought this was just a movement of self improvement, fulfillment etc and it is, but with the contrast of "CHAD" (an assumed status of person) I assumed that everyone else who is not JOCK/CHAD was like one another, just doing what is necessary to improve in life and with women.
Though I can only see so many threads about "x 21 year old found the red pill 2 months ago" and "already been with 5 girls" before almost freakishly realizing I am not even part of the average people. Not to say 'omega or beta' of course. What I basically mean is personally, I have been part of this since 2010, through Return of Kings and RooshV forums, I definitely never changed so rapidly an seemingly so commonly as a few weeks or a few months as the common threads here. Perspective - with all my redpill indoctrination and application i have had sex ONCE in eight years and that is directly in the ZONE of "Increasing SMV" 23 to 30, 31 now and women and attraction is scarcer than ever. If Rollo's graph is accurate than i would love to know what it is actually like to live as a 30 year old man, because it is all too common to see 25 year olds here and under (apparently not even on the radar) fighting back numerous offers from women young and old. Whereas apparently I am losing value or more pertinently I stay exactly the same regardless of attitude, game and aura, girls still go for people whom have had easy lives, mommy's boys with money who have never left home or men their age.
I guess what i also ultimately realized from all this is my looks and basics of who I am must be way below the average of most people on 'red pill' if people can read five threads or the side bar and then suddenly start killing it two weeks later, i am years in and although I see the theory's of feminism and marriage to be true, the application with myself is a non event.
Hopefully someone out experiencing there is the same?
kenpachitz 9y ago
Honest Question: Are you applying what you learn and approaching girls?
Because 6 years with such results sounds impossible.
Kalidane 9y ago
Yeah there is a serious problem here.
OP throw us a selfie. Pre-emptive: And there is the answer. The process of physical development does a lot more than just build muscle.
sparta2123 9y ago
It sounds like you're crying a bit in your post. As a 30 year old you have more money than 85% of the 25 and lower guys. That alone is attractive to women. I'm not saying lead with your money , I'm saying that's a competitive advantage. I would ask you , what is your social life like? Do you have several groups of friends that are female/male or do you hang out with the D&D crowd of guys whom there's one female in the group? I'm nearly 30 and I can tell you that 30-40 if you do it right , you will absolutely slay it. Get more social , join shit like co-ed sports, professional networking and find the type of people you want to associate with.
masterpiece00 9y ago
I make average money and don't flash it around with new cars etc, how would women know if i have money or not?
I'm more of a sigma type and lone wolf it in most things, don't have a close group but do a few house parties, 90% of the 22 year old girls stay within a few years of themselves and date those in their age range.
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648262 9y ago
Everyone and no one is part of the average. You will deviate on some aspects of the average. But are you a white, american, male, around the age of 31? Then you hit quite hard on the average of TRP users.
I notice there seems to be an older generation at MRP, if that is of interest. Naturally few of them are out at clubs slaying poon on the weekends, but if you're anything like me then it is less of that after 30 anyway.
But - what exactly are you worried about?
masterpiece00 9y ago
Not worried, just an observation really.
Seems Chad in any story or field report is automatically believable but if I say that from my observations in public that if most of the other guys I see with women are obviously NOT red pill but GETTING women but are beta it is always questioned 'how do you know they are beta' or women might like that. Daily I see women with wimpy college dudes which makes me question SMV and especially the chart.
RE age - I haven't stopped clubbing and partying, though most peers my age are married or stay home.
Kalidane 9y ago
What kind of women?
Your reading has left you with a mental model that doesn't map well to reality. Stop over thinking and go lift.
Shyrk 9y ago
I'm 31 and bang shitty 22-yr-olds on the reg....because I'm forced to be in a bar 6 days a week.
Quit complaining and go out more.
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Shyrk 9y ago
Small Northeastern US sea town. Not NYC or Boston or LA or anything crazy.
growlancer 9y ago
im just reading excuses here. just go out n get shit done
Docbear64 9y ago
If the focus of the redpill is to help men improve ourselves so that we can get into the top 20% of men then naturally most people who first come to this forum are going to fall out of that top 20%.
It's not about being average though it's about being the best you . If your life is a monument and ONLY you can make that monument glorious I believe you owe yourself the right to build , decorate, and create a monument worth remembering and you have to embrace the knowledge that ONLY YOU can do it .
Don't get caught up in where the other men of this sub are, It's irrelevant to your success.