Hey guys so I have been lifting for 10 years and taking care of my appearance since high school. Unfortunately I was fucked in the genetic area and despite my physique I am not able to have the hot steamy sex that others my age who workout have.
The main problem is my height. I am short (5'8) and honestly I hate to admit it but it is a huge dealbreaker for girls. Right now I am completely off the radar of most girls because of my height. Since I have been wearing lifts I have been getting more attention from girls.
My dad did not tell me how to cope with my height and to compensate for it. Honestly I want to blame him but it was my fault. I also found redpill way too late and needed to see a therapist when I was in high school. It is my fault for not seeking out the mental help that I needed. It is too late for me to participate and compete in sports at this point.
Anyway I am going to continue to keep fit but at the same time work hard in school. I have a full head of hair and no acne I am just short.
I can't really fuck girls who aren't fit themselves. I like big tits and a firm ass. (I get that these girls like tall guys with big dicks but girls can get surgery for fake tits and they look attractive). I am thinking of getting penis enlargement surgery if that exists but unfortunately it doesn't now. I will be on the lookout for any procedures I can get done.
The question I want to pose is: does money enable a man to sleep with girls way above his looks level? I know they are only sleeping with me for my money anyway.

Tiway22 9y ago
You're not that short bro. I have friends who are shorter and they slay. Your game must be weak.
Chicks can smell insecurity miles away. If you don't think you're awesome, then neither will they.
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One of my good friends is 5'4" 5'5" max and he kills. I refuse to take that as a complete excuse. Obviously it effects your results, but you can still pull easily.
LymanRP 9y ago
This. Your height is only an issue as long as you are insecure about it. Improve. Don't cry over what you can't fix... focus on what you can.
Frame and confidence trumps all, including height.
Edit: I also know a handful of 6'0+ guys who are totally inept at pulling women.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Idk man honestly I haven't seen too many short guys pull. I don't think game matters. Most girls fuck guys who look similar to them. But it's whatever I just need to sort out this situation somehow. I'm not a bad looking guy just short. Body is lean, fully waxed and I have good skin and a full head of hair.
Maybe I need anxiety medication or something. I am really getting burnt out lately. I made some mistakes in the past and now I am really paying for them. The older you get the harder it is to make changes. Oh well I guess.
Casanova-Quinn 9y ago
Average male height in the USA is 5'9". You're not short, you're in the average range.
Tiway22 9y ago
Since when is it harder to make changes the older you get? That's bullshit. People change when they want it bad enough, regardless of their age.
And short guys can pull. You need to work on your confidence.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
That is bluepill bro. Short is considered physically unattractive no matter what. So how can a short guy get girls. Honestly it's worse because I did my best to not end up short as a kid. I just got fucked by genetics.
third-eye-brown 9y ago
You're full of shit. I'll bet you pull girls better than me and I'm 6". I do better with social connections and coworkers because I'm skinny and a bit awkward but you know what? I don't sit there whining about it, I play to my strengths and I succeed.
What I hear from you is that you are basing your self-worth on whether women find you attractive. That's a losing mentality, man. No one is going to respect you if you don't have anything more important to you in your life than something as pathetic and insignificant as getting women to spread their legs for you.
Do something that actually makes a difference. Be a man on your own terms. You need to figure out what makes you an interesting person besides trying to get laid, because to me it sounds like your focused so much on that you come off as needy and desperate. Go monk mode if you need to, but get your fucking priorities straight. Women are allowed to be obsessed with getting a man. Men are supposed to have important shit to do.
oldredder 9y ago
not true. You are in bluepill denial
Tiway22 9y ago
Blue/red is a mentality. We do our best with what we have.
It's blue pill to be a complaining bitch, like you are. Like I said - work on your confidence. It's very apparent to me, a stranger over the internet, why girls aren't into you.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Yeah you are right that I have to do the best with what I have. Anyway I need to focus on school right now and maintain my appearance
FerociousOreos 9y ago
I can't grow a beard to save my life. Instead of whining about it, I learned woodworking and started drinking scotch. For every shortcoming you have that seriously bothers you, replace it with two awesome things.
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betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Look homie I already had to suffer with the disability of being short. Honestly it's not even about the girls I just want to have something to be proud of physically.
I am to blame for the situation that I'm in. I don't know how to go from here all I know is that I have to focus on school even though it is getting tough to do so.
I always slept right, ate right and avoided drugs as a kid yet I ended up in this predicament.
Now I am losing it honestly. My sleep schedule is messed up and I am having other problems. I am just trying to keep things together at this point. I will start sleeping early and study as hard as I can for my classes.
Honestly man I just want a girl who is in a similar shape as me. Unfortunately despite practicing sports for years I just wasn't good enough. I don't have the genes for that. I have the genes to be smart unfortunately.
I am just looking for smart fit girls who are in shape at this point. My body is breaking down from the lack of sleep and I feel like all of my hard work is going to waste.
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sumplicas 9y ago
I was expecting for someone to write this. As he said, it looks like he had always been ashmed of himself, of his body, height and try to overcome things he can't: His height, his physics.
I would say this: Accept your weakness and overcome it in other areas: Becoming Social Guru, Rich, Sex God, whatever.
But then all i see is a man ptying himself and wondering why he doesn't score
SeamusAwl 9y ago
Dick size means nothing. Go read Sex God Method and learn that what a woman actually needs in sex is a dominating man that can pull her emotions into it. Do that and just sliding your finger in, up to the first knuckle, can give her intense pleasure. That is not hyperbole, that is 100% fact that i have proven with my wife time and again after reading SGM. All my size issues went away because i am much bigger than my finger tip. I am sure so are you.
LymanRP 9y ago
Been looking for that book... the one by Daniel Rose? Only one I can find is on Amazon for $149... which seems like an odd price for a book. Just want to make sure I'm snagging the real one before dropping $$$.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Bro it matters but I do need to work on oral sex. I will be reading up more about it anyway.
GC0W30 9y ago
No, no you don't.
Plenty of guys get by without eating pussy.
I'm almost thinking eating pussy is a beta move at this point.
oldredder 9y ago
No, those guys get tossed out of bed so I can come over because I eat pussy like a god and just get her wet enough I can fuck her for 3 hours in a row.
Dick size matters. When your girth is 3 fingers wide she thinks other men are children.
Kommanderdude 9y ago
I know plenty of guys you're height slaying hot strange. Only thing I have to say about height complaints is.... Lil Wayne. End of discussion.
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betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Yeah I already wear boots and lifts.
mi1a 9y ago
According to Wolfram Alpha, the average male height is 5' 6". You're already 2 inches above the average. Height isn't your issue.
All I've been hearing from you looking at your main post and your comments is a ton of bitching. No girl wants to be with someone who is insecure about themselves and makes excuses as to why they keep failing. I get it, I've been there. They seem legitimate to you, and anyone telling you otherwise just doesn't get it. I'm not going to list my excuses because I don't feel like doxxing myself, but when I stoppg blaming uncontrollable factors for my failure, and started working on what I could control, I saw a major difference in every area in my life. I still have things to work on, which is why I'm here, but I've come a long way, and I hope to keep growing until I die.
Stop whining like a little bitch and making excuses for yourself, and start improving what you CAN fix. Your issues aren't your looks, or how much money you make. Your attitude sucks. Fix it.
Nergaal 9y ago
This wall of text reacks of insecurities
quicklogaccount 9y ago
Where are you from? If your height is a deal breaker there I'll be fucking far away from it.
Now, this is unsolicited advice but your whole post, but the questions, is whining and relieving responsibility from yourself. Your height isn't the reason you don't get laid, that attitude is.
Now, for your questions.
Obviously, but it's incredibly expensive (unless you're ok with hookers) and only brings sex of poor quality. BB sex is prudish, missionary, largely based on duty.
Money isn't directly related to attraction. Roughly speaking, attraction is based on looks (this spreads in a lot of aspects) and status. Money suggests status but to a small extent.
You'll be better off studying and practicing some pick up artist strategies. It'll be cheaper and get you better sex.
A disclaimer I always make is, getting laid doesn't solve one's life. It's no shame to put a lot of work into it if you're missing sex though, you need to get it to be able to get rid of the obsession properly.
Just bear in mind that once you get and it doesn't solve your shit, putting more effort and fucking around more won't help.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Ok and yes you are right that I am just whining and diverting attention away from why I am not getting laid.
Anyway bro I can still get laid being short but I want to be taller for other reasons. I am going to buy hgh and use it for the next 3 years at a resonable dosage. I don't want to keep ruminating over this topic I might as well use the hgh and see what happens.
As far as women are concerned I still do have a lot of aspects of myself that I need to improve on so I will continue to do so.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
I am never going to be attractive no matter what I do. Honestly now I am getting frustrated. I have put my body through a beating these last 10 years and I haven't gotten any good sex out of it. My joints are starting to give out but I have been training smarter lately.
I am fortunate that I have a full head of hair and good skin at least. There are things that I can still improve upon. I plan to get some plastic surgery done when I am older. I might even get leg lengthening surgery done.
Anyway I have played sports for years but I never got good at them. I simply don't have the genetics to be a top level athlete. I am better suited for academics but girls aren't attracted to academic types of guys.
Anyway I enjoy learning so I will continue to partake in the aforementioned activities. However I need to maximize my status somehow.
The height is becoming a nuisance that is hindering many aspects of my life. Being short not only makes you less attractive to girls but also prevents you from partaking in endeavors such as acting and other things. I am treading carefully here on out and hopefully I can come to a resolution of this problem.
I am seeing if I can use hgh to boost up my frame a little bit. I probably won't get any bone growth but I will be using a safe dosage for the next 3 years. I am 22 years old right now and I have heard that bone frame grows until 25 years of age.
third-eye-brown 9y ago
Lol you're 22? It's probably going to take a big tragedy in your life before you realize how good you had it. Poor little guy is only 5'8", might as well give up on life now, you'll never amount to anything.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Also you are 100% right about the status part. I need to get into acting or something that is what I am looking at right now. I am trying to see if I can get some sort of status out of working at my lab. I need to forge my academic work into a platform to gain status without coming off as a smart ass or something.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
You know, working out and getting lean mass works wonders, and this is something EVERY MAN can do. Provided that you're willing to undergo surgery and are in good shape, you'll make yourself an 8 at least. Maybe you can go that far without the surgery.
You won't be a 10, but you don't have to. If you have status that shows (a circle of people with their feet pointing towards you), you're pretty much settled.
If you have it to spare, money buys some status. VIP passes in clubs (you can't use it with women that know those are actually sold), shit like that.
Provided that you're 22, there are some remarkable easy ways to make status. An instagram account with some group pictures in interesting places. Waterfalls, hiking destinations, beaches. I'm 30 and this works.
Have someone else complimenting you on it, make it into some light mockery. "How the fuck do you make time to go out man?" / "Don't let him fool you, when he says 'lab' he means 'laboratory' and masterclasses on rocket science. The words you want him to say are 'netflix and chill'". Shit like that.
oldredder 9y ago
That's out of reach for almost everyone, as unlikely as being born a 10/10
quicklogaccount 9y ago
Well, you can have a perfect body, some shit can only be fixed by surgery.
I believe that most people beat the 7 mark by getting in shape and fixing posture, and we know that 7 and decent game is enough. But some people don't make it.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Yeah I agree on the lean part (I am already very ripped and lean and plan to use steroids), however it won't make everyone attractive. I am redpilled on appearance though and plan to get some surgeries later. Honestly safety is a priority though. I good features though honestly it is my height that is the problem.
Status is my main problem and I need to take care of that. I can address this issue through the social platforms of facebook and instagram. The pictures you mentioned are a great idea. Also covertly buying likes are a great idea as well for promotion.
When I say turning academics into status I mean me posting pictures of myself in a lab and getting a lot of likes. I just need to figure out a way to make that count.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
The idea isn't the "likes", but I have no idea how this works around you.
What I meant is, having in hand pictures that disclose that you have an interesting life, with people in it, is great. Recently I came to learn that you will end up showing and getting shown these pictures, you don't have force it.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Yeah having an interesting lifestyle is important but likes symbolize high social status and I need more likes for my pictures to overcome my lack of looks.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
I can't really argue otherwise with you, it might actually be true around you.
I suppose you can devise a hack to get those likes. I never thought too much about it but I guess you can get a few by making some actual photo edition to make everyone look good.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
You can buy likes from websites it costs $9 per like and it's probably worth the investment in the long run.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
Nah, don't. Using that sort of social hack serves you better.
blackedoutfast 9y ago
using beta bucks strategy is a terrible idea. girls who are riding the cock carousel and having wild sex with random guys will pretend to be prudes and withhold sex with you so you will see them as "relationship material." if you start dating one that you've pulled in as a BB, they will provide the bare minimum amount of lame starfish sex that they can get away with while sucking as much money and gifts out of you as they possibly can. and God forbid you ever marry a girl who only sees you as a beta bucks. you'll end up with a dead bedroom situation and be working like a dog paying for all her shit and then getting cuckholded when she goes out and gets ass fucked by some alpha fucker Chad who she is actually attracted to.
don't be a beta bucks. be the alpha fucker.
AlphaPhD 9y ago
When you get the penis enlargement surgery, you should definitely have them put in some balls too. Literally, any size will improve your life.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Just like I like girls with big tits and ass, girls like guys who are well hung. They can't help it, it's in their nature.
LymanRP 9y ago
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21576061-womens-expectations-opposite-sex-are-least-unrealistic
This is a great read.
Takeaway: go lift. Slim waist and broad shoulders are attainable through the gym. You can't change your dick size or your height.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Why are you guys assuming that i don't lift? I have been lifting for 10 years straight. I already know the importance of appearance.
LymanRP 9y ago
I never assumed you didn't lift or take care of your self, just showing that study to demonstrate that you're better off worrying about what you can improve rather than being bent our of shape for being short.
oldredder 9y ago
I don't agree. I'm 5'3 and I have no such problem. I'm the one that deal-breaks most of the time because I see cheatin' bitches that have a boyfriend around the corner and I smell trouble and don't need it
[deleted] 9y ago
This is a remarkably dumb post. Everytime someone has given you sound advice, you shrug it off saying the same bullshit you did in your post. I'm 21, 5'7 in Timberlands (if im lucky). I'm approaching an n count of 20. If you actually read any of these materials, you'd know that it's just one of many variables in attraction. I have more kills than my 5 close tall/good looking friends combined. I have two close friends who are a bit shorter than me and their girlfriends are SMOKES. Yes you're disqualified from some girls who consider it a deal breaker. But who gives a fuck. Nobody can fuck any girl they want. Stop focusing on them.
bobtheseal 9y ago
this is bullshit.. Your height has nothing to do with your mentality.
grody311 9y ago
I'm in a similar boat. I'm older and I also don't have a solid career (which, by the way, is the bigger reason women aren't interested). It's not "beta bucks" so much as, do you feel like you are valuable?
Also, based on what I'm reading: low self esteem, lack of direction, poor sleep; I would say that you're in a depressed state, and would benefit from intervention to get you out of it. Find an in network therapist and just work on your health. Someone who specializes in childhood neglect, ideally.
Yeah, it's annoying to not get poon while you do it, but you've gone this long without poon, another year of introspection and finishing school won't be that big of a deal in the long run.
Anyways, good luck with your shit.
betabucksstrategy 9y ago
Yeah bro honestly I just need to focus on school and keep living healthily eventually when others start to decline I'll get my chance but I need to stay motivated.
Also I need to set realistic goals as far as the women I can attract.
oldredder 9y ago
Ya, solid career is a thing for beta bucks.
If you're alpha you either have lots of money in your career or shit for none and don't care because you aren't a provider anyhow and never intend to be and broadcast that nonstop.