Disclaimer: I'm still very blue pill I just started reading No more Mr nice guy and rational male and I've been lurking on here for the past month. Need advice how to go around this or a kick in the ass with reality.
My ex broke up with me on my birthday a month ago. Packed all her stuff and left before I got home from work. We didn't see each other that day. It was pretty bad. I messaged her and tried asking her if she would wait for me to at least talk shit out (we have an apartment together)
Last time we talked was 3 weeks ago about how she was planning on paying the remaining 6 months rent which she said she's not. She moved in with her friend and her parents a state away.
Today she messaged me saying "Tipsy. I'm so sorry" "I hate that I have hurt you. And I hate myself everyday for it. I hope you're doing good."
I know most of you will tell me to just "k" it or not reply at all but I still have a lot of feelings for her and I've thought about her everyday every part of the day for the past month. Hence I am blue pill as fuck. I'm not sure what to say back to what she wrote to me.
I know my happiness is what really matter and maybe I'm just still getting over everything but the only current logical response in my head is that I'm happy when I'm with her.
Please red pill gods, give me advice. This was a very hard thing for me to see today.
Why did she message me now? What is her message really about? I know it's probably a genuine apology but is there a deeper TRP view on this? (I wouldn't know hence I'm very new to all of this)
Edit: will reply to everyone on my break in an hour. Read through everything everyone said.

Archwinger Vanguard 9y ago
She messaged you because things aren't going so well with the other guy she's fucking. The guy she left you for. On your birthday, probably so she wouldn't have to have obligatory birthday sex with your sorry ass one last time.
And girls love drama and closure. She needs a fix.
And this is not "a genuine apology".
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That birthday bit is just such an ass move to pull too. This alone should make this guy understand his woman was NOT a Unicorn...
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Pathetic right? To fuck a guy over so bad (this isn't that bad to the world but in my position) and all he wants is to get her back sometimes I don't understand myself.
Archwinger Vanguard 9y ago
Right. They probably had plans, and he was probably hoping to score that night.
And she left that day just to avoid having to do whatever stupid plans they'd made, and to avoid having to fuck him. Her time was more valuable to her than that and she didn't want to waste it shitting around with this guy on his birthday. She probably already had the other guy lined up before then, and was probably already fucking him, so she knew it was a sure deal. Otherwise, she wouldn't have made such a brazen move.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
We didn't have plans, I accused her of cheating the night before (didn't know if she actually did was just testing the waters) she didn't take it well and she's always been very compulsive at these kinda things. Her mother ran away from her all the time when she was young so I kinda see the pattern she inherited from her.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Although I doubt she left me for a guy since she moved out of state 2 days after to live with her slut friend and her friends parents. You might be right about the things not going so well with whoever she's seeing/FUCKING right now which lead her to message me. I like that point of view. Wouldn't doubt her friend setting her up with someone to "get over" me. Although she never used to be like that. I knew her since high school and she was always loyal to her boyfriend at the time of 4 years. I was her 2nd. But people change I suppose.
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
Hey, that may be true it may not. Something I'll probably never know. But I doubt she left to fuck Chad I know her a little better then that but then again people change.
lanky32 9y ago
verify_account is right. There is no maybe. She is fucking someone else. Whether you want to believe it or not does not make any difference.
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You don't know women at all. They act based on feelings and instinct.
Mecha75 9y ago
If you read enough bluepill reports from married redpillers you will see that AWALT. They just were not into you that way. They all have sluts inside them. Want to do anal and she tells you no thats gross, i would never do that. Then you read a text on her phone to Chad how she now has the runs from him pumping her colon full of his cum three nights before and she cannot wait to let him do that again!
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Lmao I love that mindset! Really need to get into realizing that AWALT but then again some are better then others.
Mecha75 9y ago
You are right, while AWALT they do come in different qualities. Some can be LTR and some clearly cannot. Some are only pump and dump material and others are great for plating. Finally, some you should never stick your dick into and all should never be married.
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Many people advised you not to reply and I agree with them.
And I explain you why:
We understand your feelings towards that woman. You feel connected, she is pretty, funny, movie nights, humor and what not. We might sound frustrated because it didn't work out in our life and so we turned to TRP. Maybe your relationship was different from our experience, right? Maybe if you hold on little longer it goes all back to normal, right?
Please stay with me here.
Picture yourself on the day of your LTR birthday. You love her to the death. A HB9 approached you the day before while you were looking for a birthday present for your princess and you shut that HB9 down. Today is her birthday and instead of surprising her with your gift you choose to move out of the apartment. You ignored her sad voice and tears on the phone while she was asking you to talk things out and see you on her birthday. Instead you move to another state and don't talk to her.
So 3 weeks later into living your new life. You get together with new people you have met and drink. You are tipsy and text your exLTR "Tipsy. I am so sorry. I hate that I have hurt you. And I hate myself everyday for it. I hope you're doing good."
Ask you this question please: Would you have behaved like that?
Probably not.
But if you would have behaved like her, what would have been your reasons?
Other /u pointed some out (fucking another dude, falling out of love) but the reason really doesn't matter, because behaving like her is only excused if you raped, beaten, made her do drugs or other acts against her will. I assume you did not perform those acts on her and therefore there is no excuse to be that cruel.
Try to ignore the past that your memory is spitting into your consciousness. Look at her actions. She is not calling. Not giving an upright apology. I am not saying she is not regretting her choice, I am just saying she is just not the person you should have in your life in order to be or stay happy.
If you feel like you have to give in into texting her back, I would text her something like "Thank you for your apology. I really needed to hear that. It would also really help me if you would pay the rent of the last six month. Thank you! Talk to you soon.
If she doesn't call you for the rent, but wants to build rapport with you, give her an ultimatum: "No other conversation topics till the rent is paid." If she doesn't agree on this one condition never text her again, never reply to her, never think about her ever.
If she pays the rent and is looking for coming back to you (which I don't recommend) make her work for it alot by never give in into her frame!
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Wow man... that was so fucking on point. I didn't do any of that to her. And I would never do anything like that on someone's birthday thats absolutely cruel. I highly doubt she'll be paying rent. She lost her job. Never had any saved up money (bad at finances) she has car payments to pay of like 450-500$ a month so I seriously doubt she will be paying for a place she isn't living in. Which is why I'm taking her to small claims court for the 6 months rent. It'll be hard seeing her again but I can't take 2,400$ that I've been saving up for a car and just throw it out because she couldn't keep her end of the lease.
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I am not sure how the legal system works in your country, but consider the problems with evidence... did you invite her to stay with her? did the landlord know about it too? Do you both signed the contract for the apartment?
Try your best to get the money back, but don't see it as an act of paying her back, because it might not work (if the risk of succeeding is to high) and then you feel double hurt: 1) she nexted you 2) you lost in court.
Make sure when you go to court that the case/evidence is sound and then do it. Also get a lawyer.
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Delete the text and continue no contact. It will drive her crazy and heal yourself the best.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Deleting it isn't an option as it was on facebook, and I have some info in there I need to use for court so I can't really block/delete her message I still haven't opened it tho, not sure if I should just leave it "unread" or open it and let her see that I give no fucks..? Decisions decisions
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"Deleting it isn't an option as it was on facebook, and I have some info in there I need to use for court so I can't really block/delete her"
Stop kidding yourself. You're debating wether to text her back or not but you're also taking her to court? Puh-lease!!
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
We've all been in your situation bro. Trust and believe us when we say she doesn't give a fuck about you really, she just wants to know she still has access to u.
Don't even bother reply to any of her messages. She doesn't care about u and never has. What your in love with is the v idea of a gf, not her as your gf. If she cared she never would've left on your fucking birthday before u even get home.
Just move on with your life and consider her dead. This is your first real red pill test. Don't reply to her.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Thank you Lord, I think that would be the absolute best way to go about it. I have a little dilemma (it's probably stupid) she did message me on facebook and I haven't opened the message yet but I saw what she wrote and I don't know if I should just open it to show her I read it and not reply? Or should I just ignor it and let that annoying ass "1 message" on top of the facebook app stay there? lol can't block her due to info in there for court. I know I'll eventually get drunk and press her message anyway I just don't know how it'll look if I open it but not reply to it or if I just leave it as is..
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Look at the message in 5 days, then don't reply.
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filli1aj 9y ago
And stop going to places you know she hangs out so you can "run into her by accident."
Damn. This one runs deep.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Sorry! She left because I accused her of cheating I had my suspicions and wanted to push her on that topic the day before my birthday( I don't actually know if she did or not but I had that gut feeling from what happened a week ago that she might of). I told her that I was going to just focus on myself from here on out (2 days after finding TRP and what it does for a man to find happiness) she took that as a "we're done" from me. You're probably right, this is probably to justify her "right" move so as everyone else said I will most likely be ignoring her because she doesn't deserve closure. Although the day she moved out I called her in the middle of her doing it and pretty much cried like a little bitch for a bit. And told her she's a great person that's gonna do great things in life and that I believe in her being successful. Don't know if that's closure or not.
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Whatever the reason, your best interests were the furthest reason from it.
How much more do you want?
[deleted] 9y ago
The fuck does it matter? You have so little going on that an ex has an impact on you?
Keep reading TRP and its contents. Go out and fuck more women. Hobbies. Friends.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Yes. I guess you can say that. I work 7-11 to survive and have a good amount of alone time with myself at work so thoughts creep in my head.
[deleted] 9y ago
Okay, so get out there.
Plenty of women to spend time with and definitely better than your ex.
Remind yourself of her shitty qualities and get your dick wet somewhere else.
She won't even be a memory for long.
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Are you in school? If not, work in to getting to school. Can't keep up 7-11 forever bud. Construction may be a good choice too, pays better (Well, depends) and gets you fit. Great for discipline too. Regardless, money should probably be your focus.
As for your alone time, practice breathing exercises/meditation. When there are no customers please. (Like if you work Nightshifts).
If you have money problems, start bodyweight exercises like Pushups, Squats. If you can do a Pullup/Chinup, get a bar for it. Not as good as lifting but it is something.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Yeah! Since the breakup i actually took my placement tests in a local community college and should be starting school in January! Planning on quitting one job that I have in order to be successful in school. I do actually do construction work part time and full time at a warehouse. (Fucking sucks I've learned little to nothing working at a warehouse. Would definitely like a change with jobs in the future.) I've been doing as many push ups as I can in the morning (30 right now) before going to second job and before going to bed. Also been lifting and working on abs. 3 times a day everyday (not sure if that's a bad plan or not but after 1 month can see Tiny results. Got my V Line back haha) in my good days I could do 15 pulls ups. Need to get back on that. I'm 6 foot skinny, need to be more masculine.
Olongapo 9y ago
Take it one step further......your brain and central nervous system is responding to the sudden withdrawal of serotonin, dopamine, and oxytocin that were being generated by all the "feels" you've gotten in this relationship. 5 years is a long time for your nerve cells to develop additional receptors as a result of your body being awash in these additional hormones that re-inforce bonding, pleasure, attraction, etc.
You're going through drug withdrawal....seriously. You cannot negotiate with the healing time required.....between 18 and 24 months for your nervous system to re-balance itself.
Your pain is the pain a junkie feels when they go cold turkey. Not nearly as life-threatening but serious nonetheless. The process is identical.
No contact, losing phone numbers, deleting social media accounts, etc., jumpstarts the healing process.
Yep....your life really sucks right now as did everyone else's on this forum but like OFAFV stated in his first sentence, "Don't eat your own vomit."
Fuck her....she found herself another fella long before she dumped your silly ass.
Do this....
1) Lift, lift, lift. 2) Read all of the sidebars 3) Learn as much as you can about reproductive strategies....it's all about the biology. 4) Lift some more. 5) ABSOLUTELY NO CONTACT. It's okay to be miserable and whiney but do not contact her. 6) She will not pay you the rent. This is a business loss. Mitigate by getting a male room mate. Don't bother chasing the money. 7) Stay engaged with the RP community. 8) Lift, lift, lift.
This is all about a painful re-birth for you. Sorry this happened but you ain't the only one.
Good luck.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Thank you so much, I like the 8 step program you made for me! Haha, I know everyone has their problems, I was just seeking some help on how to go about it. I will try and not contact her anymore from here on out until court comes up for her remaining rent money.
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
Yeah, I know, pathetic. You break a man and all he wants is you back (at least in my case) to get broken again. Always loved chaos. As far as messaging her anything back I think I'm just gonna ignore her or at least try too. She did however message me on FB (I still haven't opened it don't know how it'll look if she sees that I read her message but didn't reply) and I can't delete her/block her due to having info in there for court I'm taking her too for the 6 months rent.
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Don't eat your own vomit.
Anyhow, she is messaging you because she feels/needs validation that you still care about her. If you fall for it, you will quickly see that she turns cold again and maybe after a few weeks goes warm... because she needs validation.
Don't reply at all. Let her wonder why. Let her wonder if you already have someone new or if you don't care about her anymore so fast. And this is your best bet to get her out of your life. Remember, you are BP as fuck, you do not want to be BP as fuck. So resist that urge to message her. As for the pain? Use it to improve yourself. Typical advice is to Lift. Emotional pain is great for it honestly and drowning your pain through lifting works wonders both for your emotional pain and your physical body.
As for "I'm happy with her", fuck you. Your mind is ignoring all her flaws and only remembering happy moments. Well your relationship wasn't even close to perfect so remember all the badshit. You then start wondering how the fuck it lasted so long and why you stayed with her so long.
crew6dawg0 9y ago
As my favorite rapper said "Keep it real with your dawg no matter what PREACH".
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Hence, never let her have the satisfaction of closure.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
So me not replying keeps her feeling guilty for longer and keeps her wondering about me? I'm not planning on replying regardless.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Bro I understand EVERYTHING you're saying I can apply everything you said to my previous relationships, however, there was no "bad moments" other than 3 or 4 in a whole year with her compared too 50-100 bad moments in every other relationship I've had. I've been doing just that. Lifting, I'm doing it at home because I literally have no time for the gym. Wake up > work > sleep a part of me SO FUCKING BADLY WANTS TO REPLY and tell her I want to give this one more shot. I got insecure close to the end of the relationship. Dropped my frame. Got in her frame. Lost trust. I feel like it could be so much better now that I've learned a few things from TRP, but I know deep down inside to get her to come back will be nearly impossible and as everyone says it's 10 times harder to fix something broken then to start something new with someone. It still kills me that she's not here with me. I walk into the fucking room we shared and it's EMPTY and so fucking quiet it's a constant reminder and I still have 6 months of that reminder. As for not writing anything back and making her wonder I suppose that could work to push her away and that's probably my best bet but I so badly want her to come back brosif :(
[deleted] 9y ago
And its exactly because you want her to come back so bad that you will NOT get her back. It also holds you damn back. Do NOT act on your emotions. When you get your life back together, maybe you can message her then... but odds are you will not want to at that point honestly because your brain will be functioning again. Right now you are a wreck and she wants no part of it. Neither should she.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
I think you're absolutely right about that. Man, dropping Frame really does affect the LTR /: guess that's one of the valuable lessons I learned from this.
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
I'm currently in a situation where I sort of need to stay there for atleast 6 months. Working on rebuilding a house to move into with my dad. Should be close to finished in 6 months. Just started the demolition part.
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Go on backpage.com and invite yourself a hooker over for 1h. Shouldn't be more than $180.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Hahaha never paid for pussy never will! And 180$? Fucking hell I'd rather buy groceries for a month then throw it at a hooker haha, or maybe I'll just talk my little heart out to her hahaha
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Paying for a hooker is like paying for a plumber. The professional generally does a better job.
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
I did say at most. You get the benefit of banging an HB9 and leave right after with no issues. It'll get u the peace of mind you need and stop u from acting like a such a beta.
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
Thank you for this, I'm not sure if I replied to you or not
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
I did not reply I just messaged a few other people to move down her message of the pop up screen. (Tired of looking at it)
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
From what everyone's saying I suppose just ignoring her would be the best be. It's actually funny you said that, I was planning on hitting her up maybe 5 years from now to see where she ended up in life. ...Err at least in my head. Don't know if I'll even remember or care about her as much in 5 years.
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
Hahaha "I just accept to a coffee to make them regret their decision." Hope that's me someday. You're absolutely right. Have to focus on myself, staring a career getting education and just being the best damn version of myself I can be! Can't do this 7 to 11 work schedule anymore it's killing my social life, my time, and my relationships.
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stephcurryftw 9y ago
Don't reply. It's hard, I know. But you must; you ought to. It's for your own good.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Starting to see that now!
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
I'm going to try my hardest to not contact her. The message is however on facebook and I have some info on there that I'm gonna use against her in small claims court for the rent she owes. So I can't really delete her completely. Also yeah she moved out of state 3.5 hours away doubt she'd come down, however she is gonna be here with her brother and sister on Christmas... time to egg the house? Er? Lol
Docbear64 9y ago
if he does that she'll flake plus she moved out of state. I don't think he knows enough to pull this off succesfully.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
I'm definitely not knowledgeable enough although I get the idea of how to pull it off I dont think I'd be able too.
idgaf- 9y ago
FWIW I've sort of been on the other side of this; I broke up with someone and felt bad over it. It's natural to feel bad when you know you hurt somebody. It doesn't mean she's trying to manipulate you or that she wants you back.
Just tell her you're doing well. You've moved on and see the breakup as positive because of new opportunities. You're not thinking of getting her back. Even if your frame of mind isn't there yet, act like it is and it will help you get there.
Tiway22 9y ago
She is checking to see if she still has her hooks in you. Dont give her the satisfaction.
You need to get over her, and dont EVER give her another chance.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Yeah she definitely still has the hooks in me, but I'll try to avoid her at all costs.
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TipsyLeo 9y ago
I have read the links you left, thank you for that. I have a little better knowledge for the future women in my life now.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
I will get around to reading those, thank you so much. This really might be an eye opener for me to become redpill. I gotta admit tho I don't know if I gave her closure or not when I called that day and told her she's a great person that's gonna do great things in life and I hope she succeeds in every way possible (I cried a little too lol, I know I'm a pussy.)
creating_my_life 9y ago
"Haven't gotten your rent check yet."
TipsyLeo 9y ago
This would be hilarious hahaha, thanks for making me laugh! I might just go with the ignore option tho
crew6dawg0 9y ago
Listen to what every last swinging dick has said on here. Do not fall for the BP bro. Fucking listen. These guys all give a fuck and are telling you the right thing.
TipsyLeo 9y ago
Yessir, if you saw most of my replies said I'm going with the ignore. She doesn't deserve the closure.