I asked a similar question on this topic on the redpill forum and they told me to come here. As the title said. I'm a 5 foot tall guy who has no luck with women. I've improved myself by increasing social skills and making new friends. I also lost 10 lbs in fat and gained a few lbs in muscle. So far, nothing changed in terms of getting women. I still keep getting rejected. Any advice?
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648262 11y ago
You can group things into a few pillars as far as what makes you attractive. I tend to look at the big picture from this perspective:
Perhaps you'll never be the perfect 10 in the body category, but so be it. Your height puts some constraints for you, but you can still do something. You said you started lifting and loosing weight. and that's the way you should go at this. In addition there is the concept of fashion which I basically sum up to getting timeless clothes that fit like intended. That's me though and I'm a bit on the conservative side of things here. go to r/malefashionadvice to learn.
What about the other two pillars?
Are you a student with a brilliant career ahead of you? Are you doing something with the potential for an interesting future and good income? Can you steer things in that direction if not? Think long-term and how you can increase the odds of having good money run into your bank account(s) while doing something you enjoy and that makes sense.
The mind category for me is basically about learning new things and developing the brain. I like to read books on different subjects, or find information online. TRP-books is of course an easy subject to indulge yourself in, but also you can learn more about lifting and the needed nutrients for it. Or r/nootropics if you fancy that stuff. Or how to fix bikes for example. Whatever the topic, learn about it and play with it.
A long-term bonus of knowing your shit is that you can teach it to others, and any subject you can teach to others puts you as the leader of such an interaction. Such interactions gives you free practice in being a leader, which we all like to call alpha around here. Learning new things also requires you to practise it, but for me the goal is to learn.
Please feel free to ask questions or challenge what I said. A good discussion is also something I like.
[deleted] 11y ago
You've made beginner gains and are expecting expert returns. Back to work with you, you've got a long way to go.
Pushnikov 11y ago
You should work hard on being perfectly appropriately dressed and groomed in a style that represents you and don't be shy about using shoes with lots of heel to get you some help.
The rest is honestly pure raw personality. In this case you are going to have to just focus in being really charismatic and entertaining (this doesn't mean comedian). Don't blame your height for shortcomings in the long term. It will be part of their initial reaction, but overcome the shit tests and show you are cool and make them laugh (this doesn't mean being a comedian) and focus on being who you want to be and do what you love to do. I can't promise your height will never matter again, but if what you want is sexy time, then you can definitely find the right chicks to have fun out there when all the taller guys are blathering idiots who have no game. Girls will go with guys who can show they will have fun with them.
Work on some really good agree and amplifies for "wow, you're short" comments for approaches. I had a friend that was definitely super short. He knew how to play it off, have great charisma, was a doctor and charming and funny. I hardly noticed.
needathrowawayplease 11y ago
I'm short but not that short - in other words I've felt first hand the ways it's a disadvantage - but I won't pretend that the odds are as stacked against me as they are against you.
It's important to have realistic expectations in terms of the quality and quantity of girls you can attract. You won't ever be spinning 3 plates, but you can find a relationship and get regular sex if you don't have the same standards a guy with higher SMV does and you work on your inner game (confidence, self-belief, etc.) and outer game (being willing to make approaches, ask women out, escalate, etc.)
Your options:
It feels pretty hopeless right? Well the truth is a guy with model-looks can make 5 approaches and get 4 numbers/dates. An average guy can make 10 approaches and get 2-3 numbers/dates. A below average guy can make 20 approaches and get 1-2 numbers/dates.
You might need to make 100 approaches to get the date, but there truly are women who aren't shallow and are more interested in your personality / good qualities, they are just very rare.
Here's the important part: you won't meet one of these women and fall in love with each other by chance.
It's statistically unlikely that you'll find what you seek unless you force the odds. What do I mean by that? You need to become the most outgoing motherfucker and start conversations with everyone, go out and about to events and locations where there are tons of people, and most importantly, you need to approach and ask out dozens of women every week. You need to make your own luck by rolling the dice hundreds or thousands of times. You need to learn to enjoy getting shot down, it needs to become a fun game you play where you treat the social interaction like its a hidden camera show and you are the host.
You won't know which women aren't shallow until you try - so your only strategy is to play the numbers game and act as if you are high value (acting as if you are high-value is how you BECOME high-value) and go on date(s), escalate, and eventually meet someone cool.
You have to do the same thing as any other guy but you have to play the numbers game ten times harder. The thing is it's really easy to look at how the odds are against you and give up, but if you want something bad enough you'll push through that and eventually succeed.
If you don't do this, if you learn game, improve yourself, and follow all the advice you find online, but only approach a few girls here and there, or even worse only ask out women you've become friends with and developed feelings for over the course of weeks or months, it might take you 10-20 years to find a girl who's interested back. Not saying it won't happen, but you basically have to adopt a shotgun approach if you want things to happen faster. And dunno if you've ever had any experience with women at all, but it truly is quite enjoyable to be physically and emotionally intimate with almost any woman, so it'll be worth it to cast a wide net.
And you know what? When you do succeed and have a cute girlfriend, every motherfucker is going to be 'mirin cause you have balls and are a strong man despite your disadvantage.
Good luck.